Should Walmart eat the tariffs?

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while it's not exactly their obligation, they probably could and still profit
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Fuck that. No. Raise the prices and let everyone know exactly who caused that.

Could they? Of course. The family is worth a ridiculous amount of money. One of the absolute richest families. They could absorb it sure.
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They probably cant eat the tariffs knowing that it will make the company less profitable. Shareholders would go nuts.
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viewmaster_pi posted...
while it's not exactly their obligation, they probably could and still profit
They might be able to but they would look for cost savings to offset the tariff hit, and that would almost certainly hurt some combination of their employees, customers or the communities they operate in.

I'd much rather they show the tariff mark up for all to see. Let everyone know why this is happening.
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Sure. I certainly don't want to pay more
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https://m.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/WMT/walmart/gross-margin

25% gross profit margin
30% tarriff

I think we all know 25-30 is not good.
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I don't believe they could, with the scale of the current tariffs. it isnt a matter of should they or shouldn't they, it's a matter of I don't see it as being feasible to eat it and not go bankrupt.
GeraldDarko posted...
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25% gross profit
30% tarriff

I think we all know 25-30 is not good.


I'm not disputing this. I'm sure it would be a big blow. But I doubt 100% of their goods come from a source where there would be a 30% tariff.
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Regardless of my opinions on the business, its not the businesses responsibility to bear the burden of the voters will. Pass the burden of the voters choices onto the voters.
i think they should go loud and make it clear everywhere in stores that prices are going up due to trump's tariffs
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Getting corporations to eat the tarrifs is a stupid and convoluted way to tax corporations.

Like, just raise taxes on corporations, it's the same thing, but doesn't cause an economic meltdown.
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The corporations should eat the tariffs, lose a profit margin, and in retaliation plot to get Trump removed from office.
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Could they? Probably.
Should they? I see no reason they or any other company should have to shield America from the stupidity of Trump's decisions.

Sure, the Waltons are considered among one of the wealthiest families around, but even Walmart doesn't just "plorp" money from the ether, to allow them to endure Trump's triple digit tariffs, indefinitely.
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Yes OR label every price increase as "Trump Tariff surcharge"
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Yes OR label every price increase as "Trump Tariff surcharge"
rebrand everything as Trump Brand (product), or put "I did that!" stickers on everything, lol
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Yes OR label every price increase as "Trump Tariff surcharge"

They could keep all the prices the same then add a Trump Tariff tax at check out and printed on the receipt.
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I don't think the tariffs should exist in the first place.

My opinion is starting there.

Like having to decide between this I feel kinda gives validation on the tariffs existing.
The low hanging fruit must be plucked.
The American people should get what they voted for.
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kiwimyweewee posted...
I don't think the tariffs should exist in the first place.

My opinion is starting there.

Like having to decide between this I feel kinda gives validation on the tariffs existing.
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GeraldDarko posted...
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Not sure what you're trying to say here.
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Could the company eat the tariffs? Probably. Walmart is one of the corporations that could definitely do so.

Frankly, though, if we want to tax corporations, then we should tax corporations. Going the long way around (especially since the only reason Trump is saying anything about them "eating them" is because Walmart is blaming him; if they hadn't said anything and just raised prices, he wouldn't have cared) isn't going to work, and gives him a way to deny accountability.
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Yes, but the shareholders would get pissed so it's not happening.
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kiwimyweewee posted...
Not sure what you're trying to say here.
This is just a poll on CE. You aren't validating the tarriffs by choosing an option.
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Trump should eat the tariffs
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GeraldDarko posted...
This is just a poll on CE. You aren't validating the tarriffs by choosing an option.

I mean you kinda are and the conversation kinda gets steered like that. It's kinda how a lot of stuff gets validated if you haven't noticed yet. Now we aren't discussing that the tariffs should be here in the first place but on who should eat them.

Also let's say hypothetically, in 3 weeks from now, a news report gets posted about unethical treatment about people at Guantanomo Bay and then the discussion is somehow framed around how should people at Guantanomo Bay get treated. Then someone posts a poll on a website of how they should be treated instead of that Guantanomo Bay shouldn't exist in the first place. That's what this topic is.
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kiwimyweewee posted...
I mean you kinda are and the conversation kinda gets steered like that. It's kinda how a lot of stuff gets validated if you haven't noticed yet. Now we aren't discussing that the tariffs should be here in the first place but on who should eat them.

Also let's say hypothetically, in 3 weeks from now, a news report gets posted about unethical treatment about people at Guantanomo Bay and then the discussion is somehow framed around how should people at Guantanomo Bay get treated. Then someone posts a poll on a website of how they should be treated instead of that Guantanomo Bay shouldn't exist in the first place. That's what this topic is.
So, if I made a poll asking if every country with nukes should just launch them and end the world, I might be pushing the world closer to nuclear armageddon?
I wouldn't
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I'm torn between wanting Walmart and the Walton family to eat the tariffs as punishment for having financially backed the GOP for decades, and wanting the general public to have those raised prices passed onto them as punishment for willingly putting Trump back in power.
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Rika_Furude posted...
Regardless of my opinions on the business, its not the businesses responsibility to bear the burden of the voters will. Pass the burden of the voters choices onto the voters.
so if wal-mart owners/shareholders etc voted for Trump.... hmmmmm
Talk about backseat fishing.
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GeraldDarko posted...
So, if I made a poll asking if every country with nukes should just launch them and end the world, I might be pushing the world closer to nuclear armageddon?
I wouldn't

Sigh, look I get you might be taking this a bit to personally or think its just CE dude y so serious but it's not just CE having this conversation and the president and a bunch of others are not talking about nuking the whole world just hurricanes, if he was then maybe so.

Like it's not just CE it's every place, you go on reddit it's there, news networks it's there.

The conversation is being framed entirely different now. It's not that tariffs shouldn't exist anymore it's now who eats them.

Perhaps validation is the wrong word, maybe submittance would be a better one.

The low hanging fruit must be plucked.
kiwimyweewee posted...
Sigh, look I get you might be taking this a bit to personally or think its just CE dude y so serious but it's not just CE having this conversation and the president and a bunch of others are not talking about nuking the whole world just hurricanes, if he was then maybe so.

Like it's not just CE it's every place, you go on reddit it's there, news networks it's there.

The conversation is being framed entirely different now. It's not that tariffs shouldn't exist anymore it's now who eats them.

Perhaps validation is the wrong word, maybe submittance would be a better one.

It's not submittinance, either. There is still plenty of opposition to the tarriffs. Hell, people were saying companies should eat the tarriffs in February. You can think that Walmart should/shouldn't eat the tarrifs and still oppose them. I assure you that this topic will have no effect on whether the tarriff stay or not. Making a post in this topic saying you won't validate the tarrifs by voting seems more like something you just want to validate yourself.
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I can hardly claim I do not care but Walmart has been selling out of stuff faster than usual.
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so if wal-mart owners/shareholders etc voted for Trump.... hmmmmm
A business owners vote is one vote. There should be enough Americans with enough brain cells to not vote for trump and counteract the business owners
GeraldDarko posted...
It's not submittinance, either. There is still plenty of opposition to the tarriffs. Hell, people were saying companies should eat the tarriffs in February. You can think that Walmart should/shouldn't eat the tarrifs and still oppose them. I assure you that this topic will have no effect on whether the tarriff stay or not. Making a post in this topic saying you won't validate the tarrifs by voting seems more like something you just want to validate yourself.

What I'm saying is people can think that but you shouldn't. I think people should stay on point.

If you don't like the tariffs and think they shouldn't exist then say that.

My answer to the poll that was not provided is nobody should eat the tariffs because they shouldn't exist in the first place because they are abused power from ieepa under bullshit flimsy reasons. Why bother steering a conversation in that direction in the first place if you dont think they should exist?

Tariffs it is what it is. Who eats them?

The low hanging fruit must be plucked.
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kiwimyweewee posted...
What I'm saying is people can think that but you shouldn't. I think people should stay on point.

If you don't like the tariffs and think they shouldn't exist then say that.

My answer to the poll that was not provided is nobody should eat the tariffs because they shouldn't exist in the first place because they are abused power from ieepa under bullshit flimsy reasons. Why bother steering a conversation in that direction in the first place if you dont think they should exist?

Tariffs it is what it is. Who eats them?
I understand your point, I just think you're being pretentious.
Having the conversation is discussing reality, because whether you like them or not, they're here. There is still plenty of conversation about the tarrifs being bad and needing to go.
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does it even matter at this point?

walmart eats tariffs and there's a shortage: trump is sticking it to the big corpos, take that liberals!

walmart passes on the cost: biden's inflation!
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I hate walmart and big box retailers
and they can definitely shift their profit distribution to be more favorable to customers and everyday employees

but I'm ok with them raising the prices with tariffs since it's an external factor and also want to see the GOP fail
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They literally can't without opening themselves up to litigation. They have a fiduciary responsibility towards their shareholders.

Note (because I know some on this board struggle with this) I'm not saying that it's a good thing that shit is structured like this. Shit like this is a big problem with capitalism.
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I guess they could, but they wouldn't be as profitable (fine by me), but that would probably translate into firing and lowering hours cause they gotta protect the bottomline one way or another.
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