Expedition 33 General: The First Gommage (Spoilers)

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DuuuDe14 posted...
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voldothegr8 posted...
I think they intend for you to do the side dungeons they point you towards during the camp scenes first. The thing that truly busts the game is Lumina points, so limit that to 75-100 per character and the game will stay balanced at least on normal.
I think the Pictos that uncaps the damage cap is the thing that breaks the game. Prior to that the game is balanced around having a 9,999 damage cap but with it gone your damage output goes well into the millions.
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HannibalBarca3 posted...
I think the Pictos that uncaps the damage cap is the thing that breaks the game. Prior to that the game is balanced around having a 9,999 damage cap but with it gone your damage output goes well into the millions.
Many enemies in act 3 have so much HP that it's a must unless you like hour long battles. That's not balanced either. What breaks it is stacking cheater with energy master with all the energizing starts and energizing turn. There's also all kinds of auto death/survivor shenanigans, all of which takes hundreds of points to achieve. On normal the game stays balanced if the points are limited.
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The parry timings of the Act 2 final boss (I believe, for real this time) are insane.
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Trumpo posted...
I got all my links to level 7 am I able to get all the achievements in one playthrough?
I believe all achievements are doable in one playthrough
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I believe all achievements are doable in one playthrough

can confirm

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Is it recommended to just go straight to Lumiere when act 3 starts due to overleveling if you dont, and save the rest for postgame?
if you care about that, sure

you'll miss things that makes story stuff a bit clearer but it'd be fine
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DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Is it recommended to just go straight to Lumiere when act 3 starts due to overleveling if you dont, and save the rest for postgame?

There's no correct way to do it, just a matter of preference, you have three options:

  1. Head straight for the end, ignore post game, jump straight to NG+ (hardest option)
  2. Head straight for the end, load and go back out to do all the optional stuff
  3. Do all the post game stuff first, then finish the game (you will likely one shot the final Boss if you do this)
There's also option 4, just dick around until you're satisfied and then beat the game.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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You miss stuff? You can't just get that sweet lore post game?

Also, does anyone know what the song that plays during the act 2 Renoir fight is called? It's epic as fuck but I can't find a name for it without going deep in spoiler territory.
Tyranthraxus posted...
Head straight for the end, load and go back out to do all the optional stuff
Head straight for the end, load and go back out to do all the optional stuff

Oh, it allows you to do that? I would have assumed the limited amount of autosaves would lock you out of that.
by miss, i meant more "miss it when it would fit with the context"

seeing it after the ending cutscenes would just feel weird

once you beat the game and hit continue in the main menu, it puts you just before the fight so you can just leave or start ng+ from the flag
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DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Head straight for the end, load and go back out to do all the optional stuff

Oh, it allows you to do that? I would have assumed the limited amount of autosaves would lock you out of that.

After you beat the final boss if you load back in it puts you at the final flag, the game doesnt automatically progress to NG+ you have to choose to go NG+ at a flag
DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Also, does anyone know what the song that plays during the act 2 Renoir fight is called? It's epic as fuck but I can't find a name for it without going deep in spoiler territory.

Seems to be "Une vie t'aimer" from what I can see
DodogamaRayBrst posted...
Is it recommended to just go straight to Lumiere when act 3 starts due to overleveling if you dont, and save the rest for postgame?

I recommend trying to get everyone's friendship level maxed at least. That's just my personal opinion. I did most of the side stuff before ever going to the final dungeon, and was way overpowered... but if you want to keep some balance, the side friendship levels are a good focus point before finishing the game.
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Senta posted...
I recommend trying to get everyone's friendship level maxed at least. That's just my personal opinion. I did most of the side stuff before ever going to the final dungeon, and was way overpowered... but if you want to keep some balance, the side friendship levels are a good focus point before finishing the game.
This is what I most recommend. Especially Maelle's max friendship side quest as it has the most relevance to the main plot. Lune's is pretty short and mostly tied to her. Monoco's is kinda cool as it expands the lore on the gestrals a bit and it's quite a beautiful area. Sciel I...don't even remember lol

I'd also like to add that Maelle's side quest area is one of my favorite areas in the game. IDK what about it but I found it fascinating and fun to go through lol
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Sciel has the most disappointing relationship there's not even a quest. Everyone else gets a relationship quest except her.
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Senta posted...
I recommend trying to get everyone's friendship level maxed at least. That's just my personal opinion. I did most of the side stuff before ever going to the final dungeon, and was way overpowered... but if you want to keep some balance, the side friendship levels are a good focus point before finishing the game.
Yeah, maxing the friendship levels was what I did, because I was worried I wouldn't be able to in the post-game. Ended up being an unfounded worry, but eh.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Sciel has the most disappointing relationship there's not even a quest. Everyone else gets a relationship quest except her.
I actually liked that part. I wanted to finally get to the final dungeon, and those friendship quests were way more time consuming than I thought they'd be. It was like oh thank god, her quest is short lol.
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I read (in this thread I think) that you need to use Verso in combat to get relationship points and I haven't used him in forever and don't really plan to do so.

Considering I already have relationship levels, I'm not sure how true that is, but I really have no desire to change my core of Maelle-Sciel-Monoco.
DodogamaRayBrst posted...
I read (in this thread I think) that you need to use Verso in combat to get relationship points and I haven't used him in forever and don't really plan to do so.

Considering I already have relationship levels, I'm not sure how true that is, but I really have no desire to change my core of Maelle-Sciel-Monoco.

i mean you're forced to fight with him during a few points in the game so don't neglect him altogether.
also, you rank him up by spending time with esquie and is a requirement for the underwater ability.
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DodogamaRayBrst posted...
I read (in this thread I think) that you need to use Verso in combat to get relationship points and I haven't used him in forever and don't really plan to do so.

Considering I already have relationship levels, I'm not sure how true that is, but I really have no desire to change my core of Maelle-Sciel-Monoco.
I really don't think that's true. Outside of when he first joined, I never used him. I mainly used Maelle, Lune and Sciel. And I used Monoco when I got to a new area so he could get his nevron legs. I had no issue maxing out all of the relationship levels.
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You are only forced to use Verso to get Monoco and Esquie relationships. You do not need to use him any other time. Except for story related reasons like Old Lumire
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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DodogamaRayBrst posted...
You miss stuff? You can't just get that sweet lore post game?

Also, does anyone know what the song that plays during the act 2 Renoir fight is called? It's epic as fuck but I can't find a name for it without going deep in spoiler territory.

I'm literally doing this right now in NG+ I'll look for it as soon as I'm done.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Ok I don't think this one has been uploaded. It would be in here otherwise.

Should be spoiler free. All the songs are timestamped so you can quickly jump between them all but I don't hear it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIP7BmzB_fQ
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Sciel has the most disappointing relationship there's not even a quest. Everyone else gets a relationship quest except her.

she's just There.

she could be removed from the game and nothing would change
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The first time around I romanced Sciel because she was the first to throw it at me lol. in NG+ I turned it down and romanced Lune instead, as things should be.
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
she's just There.

she could be removed from the game and nothing would change
I think they were trying to make the main game party a reflection of the Painter Family. Sciel would be Clea, the big sister, who of all the family isn't really fleshed out as much and is kind of apathetic to things
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voldothegr8 posted...
The first time around I romanced Sciel because she was the first to throw it at me lol. in NG+ I turned it down and romanced Lune instead, as things should be.
I romanced Sciel because I kept hoping that Gustave secretly survived somehow. So he'd come back and I'd have him romance Lune. lol

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NoxObscuras posted...
I romanced Sciel because I kept hoping that Gustave secretly survived somehow. So he'd come back and I'd have him romance Lune. lol

I gave up hope for Gustave the moment I unlocked his haircut for Verso.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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stupidly, lore wise, he could have come back through maelle like sciel and lune did
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ConfusedTorchic posted...
stupidly, lore wise, he could have come back through maelle like sciel and lune did

She was able to restore them because their Chroma was still right there in the area; she grabbed it before taking off with Verso and Esquie, when she says "I can still see them" and draws something from the air. Gustave's Chroma was long since returned to the collection/source.
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Senta posted...
She was able to restore them because their Chroma was still right there in the area; she grabbed it before taking off with Verso and Esquie, when she says "I can still see them" and draws something from the air. Gustave's Chroma was long since returned to the collection/source.

Gustave wasn't killed by a Nevron either so she couldn't take it from the Nevron like she did for all the others.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Senta posted...
She was able to restore them because their Chroma was still right there in the area; she grabbed it before taking off with Verso and Esquie, when she says "I can still see them" and draws something from the air. Gustave's Chroma was long since returned to the collection/source.

With Gustave passing during an expedition his Chroma should stay with him and not return as it does during Gommage. Maelle was able to collect the Chroma from other expeditionars, although it was old Chroma. Gustave's Chroma shouldn't be all that old however.
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blistr posted...
With Gustave passing during an expedition his Chroma should stay with him and not return as it does during Gommage. Maelle was able to collect the Chroma from other expeditionars, although it was old Chroma. Gustave's Chroma shouldn't be all that old however.

The other expeditioners were killed by Nevrons which blocks the flow of Chroma. Gustave wasn't. It's why she couldn't bring back Pierre either.
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Touch posted...
I think they were trying to make the main game party a reflection of the Painter Family. Sciel would be Clea, the big sister, who of all the family isn't really fleshed out as much and is kind of apathetic to things
Painted Verso is, well, Verson, Maelle is the real Alicia and Monoco and Noco are painted versions of the family's pets. Who is Renoir and Aline?
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HannibalBarca3 posted...
Painted Verso is, well, Verson, Maelle is the real Alicia and Monoco and Noco are painted versions of the family's pets. Who is Renoir and Aline?

Renior and Aline are Renior and Aline.
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There is so fucking much to explore in act 3 I'm genuinely being paralyzed by choice.
DodogamaRayBrst posted...
There is so fucking much to explore in act 3 I'm genuinely being paralyzed by choice.
Focus on maxing out relationships first. Do Sprong if you haven't already, then do the flying snake guy.
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Tangent for a moment. Has anyone here ever played a game called Chrono Ark?
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evilpresident posted...
Just defeated the Duelliste
I wished more bosses had that cinematic finisher.
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I wished more bosses had that cinematic finisher.
Yeah, that was awesome
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Alright, I think I'm far enough in (just beat Dualliste) to ask for a bit of build suggestions. Basically, what are the important skills to be aiming for with Verso, Lune, Maelle, and Sciel?
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DeathVelvien posted...
Alright, I think I'm far enough in (just beat Dualliste) to ask for a bit of build suggestions. Basically, what are the important skills to be aiming for with Verso, Lune, Maelle, and Sciel?

It depends entirely on your builds. We can't just recommend what ti pick without knowing what you're going for.
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DeathVelvien posted...
Alright, I think I'm far enough in (just beat Dualliste) to ask for a bit of build suggestions. Basically, what are the important skills to be aiming for with Verso, Lune, Maelle, and Sciel?

Literally nothing matters until you get big PP. Then use recoats.
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Damn it I completely missed the mime in Lumiere
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DeathVelvien posted...
Alright, I think I'm far enough in (just beat Dualliste) to ask for a bit of build suggestions. Basically, what are the important skills to be aiming for with Verso, Lune, Maelle, and Sciel?

Honestly, every character has numerous playstyles. You can just go for what looks fun to you. Nothing is a bad choice.
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