Trump says he will end DST.

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We don't know if he means permanent standard time or permanent DST (1 hour forward) time.
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Didn't he say this during his first term too?
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Zikten posted...
So he has 10 million dark side points, but now 1 day light side point

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lilORANG posted...
Didn't he say this during his first term too?

No, but I thought the legislature somehow passed a law to abolish daylight savings... by accident?

I remember headlines about it...
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DnDer posted...
No, but I thought the legislature somehow passed a law to abolish daylight savings... by accident?

I remember headlines about it...
Maybe that's what it was. I remember it happening.... And then not happening
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F*** I much prefer DST. I love those summer nights where it doesnt get dark until 8pm
I want to have summer time year round. Driving home in the bright and not the pitch black.
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What is this 2023? They already tried it but the Republicans shot it down.
I am not a fan of DST, so I'd prefer keeping Standard Time year-round. I understand I'm in the minority.
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He'll make it so it's always dark at 5 PM
lilORANG posted...
Maybe that's what it was. I remember it happening.... And then not happening

Oddly one of the best explainers about what happened. Mostly because it wasn't paywalled, though...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/daylight-saving-time-senate
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archizzy posted...
As long as its permanent standard time and actually eliminating DST Im all for it. Not the other way around which is what some people want.

Studies have proven permanent DST is more beneficial than permanent standard time, both on mental health and on traffic accidents. It getting darker earlier in the day tends to result in worse mental health, since it getting dark earlier, particularly immediately when people are getting out of work, tends to be worse for depression. It was also found that it getting dark when people are driving home, after being tired from work, results in more traffic accidents than if it's dark when they're driving to work.
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That would be amazing not having to deal with idiotic time changes, but I do think we should spring ahead just once more and then fucking leave it . Time changing is so stupid (especially when daylight saving time ends and it gets dark at like 4:30 Ill never understand how yall prefer this
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HashtagSEP posted...
Studies have proven permanent DST is more beneficial than permanent standard time, both on mental health and on traffic accidents. It getting darker earlier in the day tends to result in worse mental health, since it getting dark earlier, particularly immediately when people are getting out of work, tends to be worse for depression. It was also found that it getting dark when people are driving home, after being tired from work, results in more traffic accidents than if it's dark when they're driving to work.

Admittedly Im viewing this selfishly and only considering my likes/dislikes. I hate in the summer time it being light out until 2200. Id much rather have it dark at 2100. I work 2nd shift so I always drive home in the dark but on my off days I hate it being light so late. I dont like to watch movies until its dark and I prefer it dark earlier.

I love in the winter when its pitch dark at 1700. Makes for great tv time. I dont care about morning time because I sleep it until like 1000 every day.

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archizzy posted...
Admittedly Im viewing this selfishly and only considering my likes/dislikes. I hate in the summer time it being light out until 2200. Id much rather have it dark at 2100. I work 2nd shift so I always drive home in the dark but on my off days I hate it being light so late. I dont like to watch movies until its dark and I prefer it dark earlier.

I love in the winter when its pitch dark at 1700. Makes for great tv time. I dont care about morning time because I sleep it until like 1000 every day.

Fair enough. I was speaking about in general. Most people who work are driving home after 5/1700, and it being dark then is worse both for depression and traffic accidents, which is why the idea of permanent DST tends to be favored over the alternative.
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For god's sake people, DST is not held during the winter. Unless you're going to school at like 5am in the summer, dst is not why it's dark out at 7am. It's dark out at 7am because it's winter when clocks are on ST anyway.

Fuck, CE doesn't even know about the Earth's axis.
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sfcalimari posted...
For god's sake people, DST is not held during the winter. Unless you're going to school at like 5am in the summer, dst is not why it's dark out at 7am. It's dark out at 7am because it's winter when clocks are on ST anyway.

Fuck, CE doesn't even know about the Earth's axis.

...I'm not sure anybody actually said this?
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Enjoy it being dark until 8 am in the Winter, numbnuts!
Sounds great to me!

That extra hour of daylight would be in the evening where it can be spent walking the dog and stuff. Who cares about morning light
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Sounds great to me!

That extra hour of daylight would be in the evening where it can be spent walking the dog and stuff. Who cares about morning light

What's even worse is that "fucks with our sleep" that the user is referring to literally only applies to the day of the time change, and it's also true when DST ends. It has nothing to do with whether we stay on DST or standard, and only has to do with changing the time.

I'm also not sure that user even understands what DST actually is, because standard time is, legitimately, why it "gets dark earlier at night," because we moved an hour back. Besides the daylight being shorter due to the season, we've also moved an hour back, compared to DST, which means, comparatively, it gets dark earlier.
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I would prefer permanent daylight time over standard but either is better than how it is right now, the time change has got to go.
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People have been trying this for ages. What makes him think he'd succeed?
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
People have been trying this for ages. What makes him think he'd succeed?
Being president helps. Have those people tried that?
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Being president helps. Have those people tried that?

It still has to pass Congress, and some of "those people" that tried were literally Congress. For example, permanent DST passed the Senate in 2022, but didn't even get brought up for a vote in the House, so it never happened.
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sfcalimari posted...
For god's sake people, DST is not held during the winter. Unless you're going to school at like 5am in the summer, dst is not why it's dark out at 7am. It's dark out at 7am because it's winter when clocks are on ST anyway.
Here's the problem with your argument:

It. Is. Not. Dark. Out. At. 7. AM. With. Standard. Time. At least not where I live.

It IS dark out at 6 AM when I let the dogs out to use the bathroom, and with DST, 6 am becomes 7 am.

YellowSUV posted...
Had to be at the bus stop by 6:45, which was before sunrise for a lot of winter.
With year round DST that changes from "a lot of winter" to "all of winter and a considerable bit of fall, too"
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Rika_Furude posted...
this could very well be the only good thing trump will ever do

It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
It IS dark out at 6 AM when I let the dogs out to use the bathroom, and with DST, 6 am becomes 7 am.

Unless you live somewhere tropical, there is a massive natural swing in daylight hours even without dst. If it's dark in the winter that's because it's winter. If it's dark out in the summer it's because you're up earlier than the vast majority of people.

Here in New Zealand the sun is coming up lately in the summer at about 430am. If we were on standard time it would come up at 3:30am. Who the fuck is going to school that early? Where I live is about as far south as NYC is north of the equator, so it's not at extreme latitude. The sun goes down here around 5pm in winter, and 10pm in summer.

When I was in Glasgow in Scotland, which is WAY further north than NYC, the sun would come up at like 9am in the winter. And that's on standard time.

Personally I would prefer DST being made year-round, but it would screw over people further from the equator. But that isn't what Trump is talking about.
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I hope so. It would be nice if we switch the clocks in Spring and then stay that way. When it gets dark at 4pm, thats completely ridiculous.
HashtagSEP posted...
It still has to pass Congress, and some of "those people" that tried were literally Congress. For example, permanent DST passed the Senate in 2022, but didn't even get brought up for a vote in the House, so it never happened.
Oh now when it's something we like, suddenly congress is going to be stubborn and refuse instead of just being Trump's yes men.
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By end daylight savings time he actually means to replace the word daylight with Donald so each season we observe Donald Saving time.
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
People have been trying this for ages. What makes him think he'd succeed?
He's been elected God King.
Trying is the first step towards failure, so just dont give it a shot and you cant dissapoint.
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Good.

I hate daylight.
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Ok fine but these are the things you focus on when youve done literally everything else
It's literally the same thing
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...
Enjoy it being dark until 8 am in the Winter, numbnuts!

Thanks, I fucking will.
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Ok fine but these are the things you focus on when youve done literally everything else
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CountCorvinus posted...
Thanks, I fucking will.

Look, I can name a few instances in MY life where I tried to reach mutual understanding
and i can TELL you, always faster and easier to just kill em. Just is!
Literal GOAT status if he can make this shit disappear.
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Plot twist: he just makes the time perpetually 2pm, under the impression that the sun will always be present as a result.
Crimson_Corsair posted...
Literal GOAT status if he can make this shit disappear.

No. Trump is still horrible.
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CountCorvinus posted...
No. Trump is still horrible.
So was Nixon, but he still managed to do a couple of good things.
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nocturnal_traveler posted...
So was Nixon, but he still managed to do a couple of good things.

A "couple good things" does not propel someone into greatness territory, especially when it's outweighed by a ton of horrible shit.
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CountCorvinus posted...
A "couple good things" does not propel someone into greatness territory, especially when it's outweighed by a ton of horrible shit.
Oh I agree. I should've added that part to my post.
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Looking forward to the kids walking to school in darkness this time of year.
joaquintall posted...
Looking forward to the kids walking to school in darkness this time of year.
I'm looking forward to school administrators realizing that time itself doesn't have to change for them to schedule school at a safe hour.
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DST is the good time we have during Spring and Summer. Standard time is the one that sucks and makes it get dark at 5 PM in winter. We need to make DST permanent and get rid of standard time.
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ProfessorKukui posted...
I don't believe him.

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He probably wants this so more people have car accidents in the morning on the way to work when its dark
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joaquintall posted...
Looking forward to the kids walking to school in darkness this time of year.

you're on standard time. IT'S WINTER.
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