Once again, I said "more prudish than", not prudes. And stop caricaturizing the other side as "craving" sex and nudity. That's not how I feel at all.
Wanting less sex in movies doesn't automatically make them more prudish. Especially when there can be more reasons than being a "prude" for why some want less of it.You talk about middle ground than jump to they have to want less of it for "prudish" reasons.
You talk about middle ground than jump to they have to want less of it for "prudish" reasons.
Sex is part of human nature Americans historically have been largely Christian which condemns pre-marital sex
I've already covered non-prude reasons in my inital post.Again, the assumption that they are "more prude" is an assumption entirely on your part.
I get not caring about it because of how inundated with free porn people are. I get watching them with parents is awkward. I'm not even saying the reasons aren't valid.
Just that I disapprove of their removal entirely, which is what, we can say, the more prudish among them want.
The Abrahamic religions condemn sex in its entirety, and have been nothing but destructive. It's why eastern cultures aren't as weirdly puritanical about our reproductive reality, see hentai manga/anime.
I've already covered non-prude reasons in my inital post.Who is saying to delete all sex scenes from all movies though? Wanting to see less of it doesnt mean it cant ever serve a purpose and should be removed 100% of the time.
I get not caring about it because of how inundated with free porn people are. I get watching them with parents is awkward. I'm not even saying the reasons aren't valid.
Just that I disapprove of their removal entirely, which is what, we can say, the more prudish among them want.
No surprise that a board full of adults who think Marvel movies are quality cinema has issues with one of the most important parts of the human experience having a significant role in art.how is that ur takeaway here
No surprise that a board full of adults who think Marvel movies are quality cinema has issues with one of the most important parts of the human experience having a significant role in art.Is watching porn also art
What are some examples of films that show sex scenes that arent relevant to the plot? Other than horror movies I cant think of any. People in relationships have sex as much as anything else that they do. So I dont see a point in including or removing sex scenes any more than I do having them eat breakfast, drive, work, garden, exercise, etc. But I am curious to know what movies dont have it be a part of the plot because I am having a hard time thinking of any film that includes sex scenes at random for no purpose whatsoever.Unless theres some specific moment in the act of sex itself that needs to be depicted, showing characters embrace and then cutting to the aftermath tells you exactly as much in a story as having a 5 minute sex scene
Edit: okay, I stand somewhat corrected based on a BuzzFeed article I just read about it. Though in my defense I hadnt seen a lot of those movies. And for some like The Room, a Matrix sequel, and the beginning of some other movie it still seemed related to relationships. The vast majority were admittedly to sell tickets or for humorous effect, however.
also, i take issue with the notion that sex is one of the most important parts of the human experience, as that discounts many people who cant or wont engage in it, for a litany of reasons
No surprise that a board full of adults who think Marvel movies are quality cinema has issues with one of the most important parts of the human experience having a significant role in art.I don't think people have a problem with sex in art, just... It's used a marketing tool more often than it's used as "art" and more often than not it wildly misses the mark.
(See: Horror movies. Threats in general almost never show up during intimacy, and if they do it's usually heavily foreshadowed and someone that typically had a relationship with one party beforehand and is zombified/the killer/working with the killer/about to be killed.)Unless it's Jason, he routinely interrupts sexy times.
That doesn't diminish its importance.Cause they didn't have the internet so they had to wait for Michelangelo to carve another nude. Now we got the internet for easy to access nudes so now my spy thrillers can focus on cool spy shit instead of pointless sex scenes.
The pervasiveness of sex in art since art began, suggests it is of enormous significance. Choosing not to partake of it, likewise.
That doesn't diminish its importance.i was replying on the side that i contend with his notion that its one of the most important part of the human experience. something like that is a nothing-claim imo and should not be the argument for why people want it in media
The pervasiveness of sex in art since art began, suggests it is of enormous significance. Choosing not to partake of it, likewise.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fb29f0aa.jpglove this one :D
That doesn't diminish its importance.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/70271065.jpg
The pervasiveness of sex in art since art began, suggests it is of enormous significance. Choosing not to partake of it, likewise.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/70271065.jpgtbf i do think sex and art can be very closely connected. i just was taking issue with a very specific sentiment
No surprise that a board full of adults who think Marvel movies are quality cinema has issues with one of the most important parts of the human experience having a significant role in art.No one here has an issue with sex existing in movies/TV.
I think they just don't like watching these things with other people. And it's different now from most 80s movies having like 10 to 20 seconds of naked boob and now with Netflix shows and some movies with like 3 minutes of humping until they have to pretend to finish.This assumes that they are watching or binging or show with other people. And assumes sex simply existing at all in shows/movies is the problem.
Gracious, I love Zoomers so much.
First generation in decades to have a shred of decency.
They're also afraid of talking to girls and seeing their own shadow.Somebody mad jelly
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6850cd66.jpgI guess I have to report this Fandom ad trying to sell bras then. We can't be having shirtless women around here... Otherwise we go right back to the days of a certain poster trawling Instragram for pictures of [term redacted] and posting them to CE.
No one here has an issue with sex existing in movies/TV.I think it's hypocritical to laud an entire franchise with next to no artistic merit, then whine about sex if it has low artistic value. Singling out sex in this way is just insecurity and puritanical. This is simply not a place where insight into when and where art begins and ends should be expected.
No one here has an issue with those who enjoys sex in movies and TV.
The Marvel thing is a bit out of left field, did anyone here even bring up Marvel?
What are you talking about?
Wanting less sex in tv/movies for the sake of just having it (and specific reasons have been given) =/= ban sex
I think it's hypocritical to laud an entire franchise with next to no artistic merit, then whine about sex if it has low artistic value. Singling out sex in this way is just insecurity and puritanical. This is simply not a place where insight into when and where art begins and ends should be expected.Geez i can barely see this post with how tall your high horse is
Geez i can barely see this post with how tall your high horse ishttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/55fb47fa.jpg
Is watching porn also artIf people are making creative decisions to produce something, it's art. There are no emotions that are more or less valid than others for a producer to evoke. I haven't seen a porn that's as good as say a David Lynch movie, but bad art is still art.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/55fb47fa.jpgthat high horse is perfectly acceptable
If people are making creative decisions to produce something, it's art. There are no emotions that are more or less valid than others for a producer to evoke. I haven't seen a porn that's as good as say a David Lynch movie, but bad art is still art.Okay so yes, youre saying porn is art. People watch it solely to get off.
Somebody tried to invalidate sex scenes if they're mostly for titillation, but evoking titillation is as useful as anything else.
Okay so yes, youre saying porn is art. People watch it solely to get off.I don't see your point. Making creative decisions to produce an intended outcome with a purpose is quite common in art. If your argument against porn being art is its purpose, then you're being completely irrational and biased.
Also kind of interesting that you randomly started shitting on marvel movies while arguing that porn should be accepted as art lolI was responding to two separate posts. Bad art is still art, whether its a meth head filming two coke addicts fucking, or a corporation making vapid drivel for a mass audience.
Apologies if i dont want an otherwise normal movie to try to evoke horny similar to a porn scene. It usually isnt effective and disrupts what i actually want to see in the movie.Sex is normal. Your post reads like sex scenes commonly come out of nowhere without fitting into the plot of their movies. I'm not saying there aren't lame sex scenes. There are lame scenes of all types. Why focus so hard on sex?
I don't see your point. Making creative decisions to produce an intended outcome with a purpose is quite common in art. If your argument against porn being art is its purpose, then you're being completely irrational and biased.my argument is that many, many sex scenes in movies dont push the plot forward, and essentially exist for no reason other than WOW LOOK SEX.
I was responding to two separate posts. Bad art is still art, whether its a meth head filming two coke addicts fucking, or a corporation making vapid drivel for a mass audience.
Sex is normal. Your post reads like sex scenes commonly come out of nowhere without fitting into the plot of their movies. I'm not saying there aren't lame sex scenes. There are lame scenes of all types. Why focus so hard on sex?bruh they do. Like often.
...I'm too bored. I really don't care what you want to watch.
my argument is that many, many sex scenes in movies dont push the plot forward, and essentially exist for no reason other than WOW LOOK SEX.I'll take your word for it, because fuck it. I watch art house films and exploitation films mostly anyways.
Somebody mad jelly
Of...what?Of a generation that's cooler than we ever were.
I think it's hypocritical to laud an entire franchise with next to no artistic merit, then whine about sex if it has low artistic value. Singling out sex in this way is just insecurity and puritanical. This is simply not a place where insight into when and where art begins and ends should be expected.I repeat.
I'm gen z and not that fond of sex scenes myself but I've thought these arguments were really off. This should apply to things like obligatory action and violence as well. Are gratuitous action scenes just bloodthirst bait? Like, we just had Terrifier 3 be the biggest box office hit recently and I do find it interesting how some of the same users criticizing sex in media were happily enjoying that.i think the difference in that instance is, people go into terrifier knowing its gore porn and wanting gore porn
In any case I do think the headline here is disingenuous and it's probably more what boomers/genxers want zoomers to be like.