If they see someone pointing a gun at a political rally that isn't part of the secret service/protection detail with the authority to do so, yes, obviously. Don't be this way.We don't know what they saw until more information is provided. We know they saw a person. From that far away, they might not have known they had a gun.
We don't know what they saw until more information is provided. We know they saw a person. From that far away, they might not have known they had a gun.
I'm just saying, there have been alot of people saying how law enforcement shouldn't shoot everyone they suspect (this is obviously a good thing!), and now people are acting surprised that they didn't shoot someone suspicious.
I'm just saying, there have been alot of people saying how law enforcement shouldn't shoot everyone they suspect (this is obviously a good thing!), and now people are acting surprised that they didn't shoot someone suspicious.I hope you lose CE access so I don't have to read your garbage fire posts again.
I hope you lose CE access so I don't have to read your garbage fire posts again.
My uninformed profile so far: Shooter is a groyper, gun nut, and registered Republican.
My uninformed profile so far: Shooter is a groyper, gun nut, and registered Republican.
My uninformed profile so far: Shooter is a groyper, gun nut, and registered Republican.Groyper?
Groyper?
My uninformed profile so far: Shooter is a groyper, gun nut, and registered Republican.
My uninformed profile so far: Shooter is a groyper, gun nut, and registered Republican.
The person committing the shooting would've been willing to die or risk dying had they been caught since they were outside the perimeter to begin with
Groyper?
Implying this is stage is unhinged garbage. He was hit in the ear, people died, the shooter died.Finally someone sane. I had to reread my posts to make sure I wasn't saying something wrong. Getting dogpiled by conspiracy nuts is wild.
people died, the shooter died.
3: The person committing the shooting would've been willing to die or risk dying had they been caught since they were outside the perimeter to begin with
That is indeed uninformed and not very logical as murdering their hero would be counterproductive.It's not logical. But the guy looks like an incel and ready to lash out at the world. Maybe someone who sees assassination as the ultimate meme.
There's just way too much "supposed" info flying around right now.
Hopefully tomorrow we'll have something concrete.
That is indeed uninformed and not very logical as murdering their hero would be counterproductive.It plausible that he could have been mad that Trump is trying to distance himself from Project 2025 and decided to take action.
I feel you on most of your post, but I don't think it's a stretch to imagine Trump cronies convincing some mentally unwell right winger barely out of high school to shoot at the teleprompter during his speech and that nothing bad will happen to them. These people are evil and his supporters love him.It's beyond a stretch to believe that Trump cronies would put their daddy Mac in the path of a lunatic's bullet hoping that the guy would aim at the thingy next to Trump and not miss or decide to change his target.
My uninformed profile so far: Shooter is a groyper, gun nut, and registered Republican.Groyper?
We don't know what they saw until more information is provided. We know they saw a person. From that far away, they might not have known they had a gun.The only way this is even within the realm of possibility is if Trump has specified that no one with a firearm near his rallies be shot unless theyre firing. I know his rallies are gun free zones, but a lot of Conservative events have firearms being held proudly in public.
I'm just saying, there have been alot of people saying how law enforcement shouldn't shoot everyone they suspect (this is obviously a good thing!), and now people are acting surprised that they didn't shoot someone suspicious.
Groyper?
TMZ and Newsmax both say they have sources that Trump wasn't shot but was hit by broken glass from the teleprompter being shot.ahh fuck. Usually they are right. About dead people...
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/police-trump-glass/2024/07/13/id/1172410/
https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/13/donald-trump-appear-shot-pennsylvania-rally-president-election/
Trump cronies are extremely stupid, though.I think theres a line between some of this isnt adding up, im going to wait for more info hours after the shooting, and this is clearly a false flag immediately as the shooting happened. Idk how immediately saying a shooting is staged or didnt happen at all is much better than Alex Jones.
Yeah, you guys can keep repeating this but it's not even close to being comparable. Alex Jones is pure bullshit. Trump has a history of lying and while it was likely not staged, there are a few things that raise questions and people are understandably skeptical about what went down.
That's what literally any person would say when being compared to Jones no matter how comparable his dumb conspiracy theory is.
Yeah, you guys can keep repeating this but it's not even close to being comparable
The only way this is even within the realm of possibility is if Trump has specified that no one with a firearm near his rallies be shot unless theyre firing. I know his rallies are gun free zones, but a lot of Conservative events have firearms being held proudly in public.I'm not supporting anything as matter of fact. I just took issue with everyone immediately claiming "conspiracy!" just because some snipers weren't immediately firing on a person that they saw. I assume there is a real reason, such as not seeing a gun (maybe it was obstructed in some way), but I'm not going to immediately assume it was all part of their Cheeto's plan. That is pure brainrot.
So is there maybe, possibly, a standing order by Trump not to treat proud gun toting Americans as threatsunlikely. It could account for the odd behavior though. I also wouldnt consider it likely for the USSS to ignore a credible threat in such an open way, with so many cameras and eyewitnesses, unless they had good reason. Theyre an agency that is always keenly aware of operating in the spotlight.
So was the "Thomas Matthew Crooks" name fake too? Seems the other poster who said it deleted the post in thread.
Thomas Matthew Crooks made a video after the fact. He said he hates Trump and Republicans, but he's not the guy.Was it the actual guy, or was it just someone trying to chase clout? I had heard that the account was only created today, but I can't check that myself.
Was it the actual guy, or was it just someone trying to chase clout? I had heard that the account was only created today, but I can't check that myself.
Thomas Matthew Crooks made a video after the fact. He said he hates Trump and Republicans, but he's not the guy.
People are throwing names out there (like that Antifa guy earlier) with no regard for how much it can harm that person.
We should wait for more info.
that's extreme, but I'm not seeing most people say that. There's a spectrum of skeptism right now. And while I don't endorse it being coordinated by Trump's team, I definitely am not dismissing the possibility that they botched a fake assassination attempt .
That would be so fucking sick if that was the case. Is there no depths?!If there are then we havent seen them yet.
Confirmation of whatThe shooter's identity. I'll edit it in.
Confirmation of what
Yes, but which Thomas Matthew Crooks?Yeah, thats the confusing part for me right now. Long haired dude is not him, short haired dude is? Not sure about other info still like registered Republican and whatever