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Too bad they didn't put any actual effort into making this game not 30 FPS
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Irony posted...
Too bad they didn't put any actual effort into making this game not 30 FPS
AFAIK that's more of an engine thing? Since it seems to use the same engine as Origami King
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AceMos posted...
https://twitter.com/jsketch12/status/1793059125661987317
Damn, that music is popping. Is that from the remake? I don't remember it being quite like that in the original
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pegusus123456 posted...
Damn, that music is popping. Is that from the remake? I don't remember it being quite like that in the original
Nope, it was popping like that in the original.
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Rika_Furude posted...
Vivian was always the best party member as well whenever you didnt need to Tattle
I found that it was situational between her, Bobbery and Koops.
I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won.
I think Goombella ends up being the best partner just because of Rally Wink, but Vivian is definitely a close second. That burn is just too good.
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StealThisSheen posted...
It's been confirmed the dialogue in the Japanese version has been updated to make it more clear/direct, too, so I wonder what excuse those "I just want accurate localization" types will come up with next.
They were already jumping through hoops from the change being closer to the original Japanese script so they'll still lean heavily on the SPM card and Goombelle's old tattle. All while praising the old localization and crying about being a change in perspective or any of the other bits of nonsense that saw folks bopped from the last thread.
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pegusus123456 posted...
I think Goombella ends up being the best partner just because of Rally Wink, but Vivian is definitely a close second. That burn is just too good.
With the right set up but Yoshi was generally the best due to his versatility and damage output. As his moveset allows him to hit all enemy types be it spiked, flame body, flying, in the back row or etc.

And Has many strong hitting single target and multi hitting atks. Hell hes even great against high def enemys as one of his skills piece def.
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I never found Yoshi that useful in the lategame because he's basically an SMG and most of the enemies start having defense at a certain point.

Maybe I just undervalued Gulp.
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goombella is really op because she has the best boss dps and rally wink gives mario an extra turn, which allows for fast boss kills because mario is incredibly overpowered. yoshi's really good because he benefits astronomically from damage boost stacking

with how strong power lift and power bounce are, giving mario as many turns as possible is probably the best thing you can do in most situations. mario can oneshot bosses pretty easily and without danger mario strats because power lift is honestly one of the most blatantly overpowered abilities i've seen in an rpg
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I just like though that it 2004 even today, gay and trans acknowledgement in all ages or kids media is iffy, but Christians in the early-mid 90s deemed this kid friendly:
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20 years ago Vivian was best girl

20 years later Vivian also best girl

Started playing the remake today, haven't gotten to when she joins the party but can't wait till she Fiery Jinxes over everything in my path just like the good ole days
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https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1793666093791543515

These fucking morons don't even understand that the censorship occurred 20 years ago when the original was released.

Heck back then even I knew that.
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TheFuzz3451 posted...
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1793666093791543515

These fucking morons don't even understand that the censorship occurred 20 years ago when the original was released.

Heck back then even I knew that.
none of these people played the original its all a grift

and libs of tiktok is a monster who has factually been connected to bomb threats
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Just got to this point of the game. That was basically the only bit of dialog changed. Wonder if they'll edit anything later.
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TheFuzz3451 posted...
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1793666093791543515

These fucking morons don't even understand that the censorship occurred 20 years ago when the original was released.

Heck back then even I knew that.
Censorship is only bad for these people when its something they like being censored.

Vivian being trans getting censored? Thats actually a good thing to them because trans bad.
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pegusus123456 posted...
I never found Yoshi that useful in the lategame because he's basically an SMG and most of the enemies start having defense at a certain point.

Maybe I just undervalued Gulp.
Any power badges for your partners increased his damage significantly past the third one. His basic attack with +4 would do 5+4+3+2+1+1=16, which is 10 more than his usual damage, whereas other partners would only get +4 or +8 total for Goombella. Hell +6 would do 20 damage, with each additional point giving +6 damage each! Course that would require some power rushes or the star power that buffs att/def.

Also I haven't gotten to him yet in the remaster, but in the original if the enemy had high defense, as long as the first hit did any damage, the rest would still do 1 damage as well if I remember right.
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GranAures posted...
They were already jumping through hoops from the change being closer to the original Japanese script so they'll still lean heavily on the SPM card and Goombelle's old tattle. All while praising the old localization and crying about being a change in perspective or any of the other bits of nonsense that saw folks bopped from the last thread.


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Have there been any extra content changes?

All i remember from the original is a ton of backtracking and battles being kind of repetitive. I really would like to give it another shot though
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_____Cait posted...
Have there been any extra content changes?

All i remember from the original is a ton of backtracking and battles being kind of repetitive. I really would like to give it another shot though
they massivly reduced the back tracking
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_____Cait posted...
Have there been any extra content changes?

All i remember from the original is a ton of backtracking and battles being kind of repetitive. I really would like to give it another shot though
There are two new bosses and they added warp pipes in a few places to help the backtracking.
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pegusus123456 posted...
There are two new bosses and they added warp pipes in a few places to help the backtracking.

They also added a shit ton of new animations, and reduced back tracking within "levels" by adding springs/etc. to certain parts, so that you don't have to keep back-tracking and using partner abilities to get where you were, like in the original.

EDIT: For example, there's a part on... Keyhaul Key, where, in the original, you're forced to backtrack, and thus you gotta climb up a certain area all over again, using Yoshi's ability, and so on. They added a spring to that part that you can skip all of the "climb up all over again" and just... Instantly get back to where you were.
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Is the Japanese script out?
pegusus123456 posted...
I think Goombella ends up being the best partner just because of Rally Wink, but Vivian is definitely a close second. That burn is just too good.
Yoshi and goombella are generally considered best. Vivian is too situational.
ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Censorship is only bad for these people when its something they like being censored.

Vivian being trans getting censored? Thats actually a good thing to them because trans bad.
To be honest, the whole thing is just a mess realistically speaking.

It wasn't even that Vivian was truly trans so much as they were going with a bunch of jokes that would have been massive swings and misses. The US version sidestepped it by just making Vivian female without any of the jokes, and people took it to mean that Vivian was trans in Japan for some reason and then said thr US version was censored for doing this. But upon further inspection, if you take Vivian as trans, then the Japanese version and all versions sans the US version are transphobic, and the joke just becomes outright offensive (instead of just a joke that doesn't stick the landing).

The only exception is Italian where they just straight up make her trans.

Tbh, if I didn't know about all of this mess and read the line, I'd assume that they were calling Vivian a boy because they were calling her "ugly." More than it reads as "I'm actually trans."

I think the best part about it is that the dialogue form the Japanese version (and subsequently other translations) remove the potential transphobic jokes. That's the actual win there.
pazzy posted...
But upon further inspection, if you take Vivian as trans, then the Japanese version and all versions sans the US version are transphobic, and the joke just becomes outright offensive (instead of just a joke that doesn't stick the landing).

Given when the game first came out, yes, it is likely that it really is just an offensive joke that wasn't seen as so offensive back then.
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HashtagSEP posted...
Given when the game first came out, yes, it is likely that it really is just an offensive joke that wasn't seen as so offensive back then.
you are correct

thoe it should be noted bit of dialogue ppl tend to ignore

is goombellas letter at the end

where she DOES refer to vivian as a girl

so while it was full of offensive jokes its clear the characters did accept vivian in the end
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ArmieBuff posted...
She was always trans. You still clinging to that "she's a femboy in Japan" thing?
Did you really just dig all the way down in a day old topic to try to fight? Hard pass.
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Whatever they can do to score brownie points I guess.
ArmieBuff posted...
I just saw the post. You were informed of how she wasn't a femboy in the original before. She never identifies as a boy, in fact she's hurt by it. She clearly wants to people to refer to her as female. The only thing that's changed from the remake is that the heroic characters don't follow Beldum's lead anymore. People have been suspended for still insisting that she was a femboy in the original.
Sounds like an attempt to fight over something. It doesn't matter what she was. She's always been a she in the US clearly.
waterjoe posted...
Whatever they can do to score brownie points I guess.
yes nintendo in 2004 wax clearly aiming to earn brownie points on this subject
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I'm glad to hear it. She's my favorite Mario character and I've tried to recreate her in games like Elden Ring and Fallout 4 (with many, many mods to make it happen).

I kinda wish that I could get the game, but my transphobic grandfather is being a tightarse with my own money that he won't let me spend much. You know, the same guy who told me that I should be shot if I was ever to try to become the woman I want to be.

*sigh* At least the soundtrack is on YouTube. I kinda love the new revisions of the music.
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DementedDurian posted...
I'm glad to hear it. She's my favorite Mario character and I've tried to recreate her in games like Elden Ring and Fallout 4 (with many, many mods to make it happen).

I kinda wish that I could get the game, but my transphobic grandfather is being a tightarse with my own money that he won't let me spend much. You know, the same guy who told me that I should be shot if I was ever to try to become the woman I want to be.

*sigh* At least the soundtrack is on YouTube. I kinda love the new revisions of the music.
*hug* im sorry you have to live in that environment
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Whatever they can do to score brownie points I guess.
Trans charclacters have existed in Japanese media for around 40 years at least.

But, sure, "brownie points."
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GranAures posted...
Trans charclacters have existed in Japanese media for around 40 years at least.

But, sure, "brownie points."
hell homophobia and transphobia are things japan imported from western civilization if you want to be technical

now this is not to say feudal japan was good far far from it

just an acknowledgement of history
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AceMos posted...
*hug* im sorry you have to live in that environment

Yeah, the bastard was yelling at me at my face with food in his mouth last night. My grandmother was being dense about my missing glasses and I had to repeat to her what I just said. He flew off the handle about "not talking to my grandmother like that" and began to yell while spitting. I pushed him away and he went off, punching me in the shoulder.

I don't get this family sometimes. They keep talking about getting out of the house to meet new people but detest the kind of people I'd want to befriend. They also have their head so far up their behinds about politics. My grandfather always wears garish clothes about "God, Guns and Trump" and it bothers me when it comes to his idolization of Trump.

He wasn't always like this according to my grandmother. I suspect his favorite talk show host Rush Limbaugh was feeding him nonsense and now he's a racist, a homophobe and a transphobe.

I seriously want a new family.
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DementedDurian posted...
Yeah, the bastard was yelling at me at my face with food in his mouth last night. My grandmother was being dense about my missing glasses and I had to repeat to her what I just said. He flew off the handle about "not talking to my grandmother like that" and began to yell while spitting. I pushed him away and he went off, punching me in the shoulder.

I don't get this family sometimes. They keep talking about getting out of the house to meet new people but detest the kind of people I'd want to befriend. They also have their head so far up their behinds about politics. My grandfather always wears garish clothes about "God, Guns and Trump" and it bothers me when it comes to his idolization of Trump.

He wasn't always like this according to my grandmother. I suspect his favorite talk show host Rush Limbaugh was feeding him nonsense and now he's a racist, a homophobe and a transphobe.

I seriously want a new family.
i hope some day you can get away from them
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AceMos posted...
i hope some day you can get away from them

That's why I've been feverishly writing my book for the past day. I feel like it's my only ticket to independence and I don't know how my family is going to react to the subject matter.

And I know I told you the premise on Discord, but please keep that a secret for now.
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DementedDurian posted...
That's why I've been feverishly writing my book for the past day. I feel like it's my only ticket to independence and I don't know how my family is going to react to the subject matter.

And I know I told you the premise on Discord, but please keep that a secret for now.
no i refuse

HER BOOK IS ABOUT A CHARACTER AND THEY ARE IN A STORY
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AceMos posted...
no i refuse

HER BOOK IS ABOUT A CHARACTER AND THEY ARE IN A STORY

I'm being serious. I kinda don't want the premise out there in the open.
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DementedDurian posted...
I'm being serious. I kinda don't want the premise out there in the open.
i know and i wont tell anyone
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pazzy posted...
Did you really just dig all the way down in a day old topic to try to fight? Hard pass.

Why did you suddenly get so offended by somebody... Responding to your post?

pazzy posted...
Sounds like an attempt to fight over something. It doesn't matter what she was. She's always been a she in the US clearly.

Oh, wait, now I see why. You had an agenda, and you got mad when people replied against it. Stay mad, I guess.
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StealThisSheen posted...
Oh, wait, now I see why. You had an agenda, and you got mad when people replied against it. Stay mad, I guess.
No you don't see a point. Like a lot of you people that just absolutely struggle to understand things on here when you cling to a specific line of thinking and don't even try to comprehend other points. If by agenda you mean "I'm tired of people always shitting on localization teams when they don't even bother to know the native language it was translated from and don't understand why localizations happen." Then yeah, I'm "mad" like what you quoted doesn't even make sense. Are you going to argue that Vivian is "not" a she? And that Vivian hasn't always been one in the US? Whether it's cis or trans is irrelevant (which was literally my point when I said it wasnt even necessarily about whether Vivian was trans or not). The main bulk of what was always removed was the transphobia, and for whatever reason people took the transphobic jokes being removed to initially use that as a slight against the US version by saying that they were censoring that Vivian was transgender when no such thing ever happened.

And then try to use a slight against the US because they don't out and out just say "ok, Vivian is a trans woman" when even the Japanese version wasn't particularly laid out on it.

The only "crime" the US version is guilty of is removing transphobic remarks and it got ass blasted for it. And even retroactively the Japanese text is altered, and then another group of people bitch about it-- which is an entirely different set of issues that I'll get to.

The main thing that angers me is that people basically get mad at stuff for not doing exactly what they want. Even that tweet there is some kind of awful because it's not "hey look, they added a line in there that's different from the original thus clearing up that Vivian was in fact, supposed to be transgender" but says "we won" as if the constant bleating from the fan base is what forced this to happen-- which is all kinda of fucked up.

pegusus123456 posted...
Bill isn't gay, he just has that gay porn in his house because he hoards everything he finds" vibes from this one lmao

To be fair, people have argued that you can be a heterosexual straight man and still have consensual sex with gay men for money or comfort. That it doesn't mean you are gay, only if you are attracted to them, or identify as such.
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