I thought it was better than Rise personally, but I really enjoyed this movie. Seems like it could be the start of something that could bring up the quality like Dawn and War did after Rise. Definitely felt like they were really setting something up.Yeah as much as I love Rise and think its a phenomenal movie, rewatching it makes it feel like its all just setup to get to the post apocalyptic setting that the rest of the series focuses on.
Mae is an unlikable person imo. She really had the gall to tell the apes that humans deserve to be the ones ruling Earth. Just what should the apes do, then? Go back to being held in cages?
Ideally, the apes and humans should reach an agreement and live together in harmony. But if that's not possible, they should just fight for themselves. Humans for humans. Apes for apes. You can't expect one side to sacrifice itself for the other.
I thought they did a good job of being even-handed about it. This girl has lived her entire life being told all the stories about the way in which humans used to live all while "intelligent humans" have been hunted to near extinction. Why wouldn't she hold a grudge and want to ensure her species can rebound?
Just like how Noah wants to ensure his clan exists and continues to live their life.
Ultimately both have lived their entire life being told that the "other" is terrible and needed to be avoided. When given the opportunity to ensure they will thrive, why wouldn't they take it?
It's fine for them to selfishly want their own side to succeed at the expense of the other but to actually tell the other side is stupid because they're obviously not going to agree. "Go back to your cages and let my race prosper" is an insult.
I really think Noa was too quick to forgive Mae. She literally almost killed his clan by causing the explosion that led the flood. The kid apes and even his own mother nearly died because of what she did.
What was the alternative for everyone? Since the plan went sideways (or were they suggesting she told Proximus the plan and just turned on everyone?) they were all gonna die if she didn't blast the dam.
I think they are building towards a remake of the original with Dr Zaius and everything. They'll probably make it a whole trilogy.
Proximus wasn't gonna kill all the apes; he was planning to just kill the remaining intelligent humans with the weapons in the bunker. Some apes would have died in the ensuing war, but Noa could have still taken his family to safety before that happened.He would have killed Noa. His girlfriend, his mom, his best friend and enslaved the rest of the clan.
Mae is right to protect her own kind, but Noa isn't part of her kind. He has no reason to forgive her for almost killing his friends and literal mother .
He would have killed Noa. His girlfriend, his mom, his best friend and enslaved the rest of the clan.
Did they ever explain why the apes with masks (Proximus legion) were going around killing and enslaving apes and humans in the first place? And why Caesar specifically was the inspiration for their jihad?To build a new Ape society that was powerful and rad and that he was in charge of.
Did they ever explain why the apes with masks (Proximus legion) were going around killing and enslaving apes and humans in the first place? And why Caesar specifically was the inspiration for their jihad?Apes for labour & humans... probably for sport.
Apes for labour & humans... probably for sport.Oh man I totally misinterpreted that whole faction then. I thought they were worshipping the ape Caesar the whole time.
Their inspiration isn't from the ape Caesar, but from the Roman emperor.
Oh man I totally misinterpreted that whole faction then. I thought they were worshipping the ape Caesar the whole time.Yea, it was that guy who's name I forgot who taught Proximus Roman history from the books. But then again, I just remembered he also chanted "ape together strong" which was ape Caesar's teaching, so idk anymore lol.
Yea, it was that guy who's name I forgotI legit thought that was Mark Hamill for a second when he walked on screen