do u ever look on JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and mourn *some spoilers*

man

caesars death always destroys me

manga and anime. i always sob and snot and tears stream like a faucet. i had to go for a midnight walk last night

i dont get moments like this in 4-6

That explains a bit.

Watch them, IMO. The anime is better than the manga. 4 does a great job of making Morioh feel like it's own character. 5 does a fantastic job of giving life to the side characters. 6 the manga is better.

I've made it to part 5 in my manga read through and so far Giorno is the only Jojo that comes close to part 2 Joseph for me

Giorno is pretty fuckin goated

Nah I knew Giorno was gonna be a good one as soon as he offed Polpo in the way he did

I think Giorno has a lot of intricacies that make him harder to appreciate compared to flashier Jojos but I really like him so far

to be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand giorno

Hes probably one of the more willing jojos to just do what needs to be done. He has no qualms with killing and stealing if it will aid him

I happen to like Giorno. He may be boring compared to some of the other jojos but hes ruthless and will do whatever it takes to achieve his goals, and he respects those with similar resolve.

His words to Mista about resolve at the end of the Ghiaccio fight are so fucking cool

suddenly it makes sense why giorno exploded in popularity

i just heard his theme

it fucks

the thing is, im an anti-fan of part 5

it doesnt have anything i like

abacchio ig. mista is alright

I'm not too far into part 5 (just got past the Moody Jazz intro on the yacht) but the premise is super interesting so far and I'm curious to see how Giorno develops more as a character.

He's very grounded, which is a nice contrast to the flashy and often carefree Josuke. That willingness to go as far as he needs to reminds me a lot of Jotaro and his quick wit reminds me of young Joseph, so it feels like he has good qualities of multiple Jojos

Plus I think it's very cool how Golden Wind's ability is a play off of Jonathan's hamon

Well I finished part 5. That had to be one of the most contrived, disappointing endings to an otherwise amazing story *series spoilers ahead*

King Crimson was built up to be such an imposing figure looming over the story, and I swore that his ability to erase sections of time was going to end up being countered by Giorno having inherited latent time abilities from Dio's World. That was the point of making him Dio's kid, right? For it to have some bearing on the story?

Well actually no, Araki wrote himself into a corner with Diavolo being way too OP, so the only counter was to give Giorno the I win button through the arrow (seriously, "your desires will never become reality" is the most ass pull power up ever). Then we get a weird out of place epilogue with rolling stones for seemingly no reason, followed by a time skip to Giorno having achieved his dream of being a mafioso. Payoff without having to show any of the work to get there.

The story is so nearly 10/10 material until literally the last few chapters, and it nose dives to about a 7/10 imo. Such a disappointment.

Well I finished part 5. That had to be one of the most contrived, disappointing endings to an otherwise amazing story *series spoilers ahead*

King Crimson was built up to be such an imposing figure looming over the story, and I swore that his ability to erase sections of time was going to end up being countered by Giorno having inherited latent time abilities from Dio's World. That was the point of making him Dio's kid, right? For it to have some bearing on the story?

Well actually no, Araki wrote himself into a corner with Diavolo being way too OP, so the only counter was to give Giorno the I win button through the arrow (seriously, "your desires will never become reality" is the most ass pull power up ever). Then we get a weird out of place epilogue with rolling stones for seemingly no reason, followed by a time skip to Giorno having achieved his dream of being a mafioso. Payoff without having to show any of the work to get there.

The story is so nearly 10/10 material until literally the last few chapters, and it nose dives to about a 7/10 imo. Such a disappointment.

Also they didn't just make this up for Giorno. It was a major plot point in part 4.

Kira developing bites the dust through the arrow made sense in the context of his character. It was a conditional bomb set only to go off in a very specific scenario, where the host reveals his identity, and the resulting time loop is actually its weakness that can be exploited. It feels perfectly in line with Kira's other stand abilities imo

Gold Experience Requiem's ability to nullify will and undo reality feels completely removed from the rest of its abilities though, which are centered around life energy (a motif I assumed to be inherited from Jonathan's Hamon, but I'm not sure). It just feels like it's designed to be a perfect counter to King Crimson's ability rather than a natural evolution of Giorno's stand, and that feels pretty lackluster

Kira developing bites the dust through the arrow made sense in the context of his character. It was a conditional bomb set only to go off in a very specific scenario, where the host reveals his identity, and the resulting time loop is actually its weakness that can be exploited. It feels perfectly in line with Kira's other stand abilities imo

Gold Experience Requiem's ability to nullify will and undo reality feels completely removed from the rest of its abilities though, which are centered around life energy (a motif I assumed to be inherited from Jonathan's Hamon, but I'm not sure). It just feels like it's designed to be a perfect counter to King Crimson's ability rather than a natural evolution of Giorno's stand, and that feels pretty lackluster

That's one way of looking at it. The other way of looking at it is that Giorno's stand has no fucking idea what it's doing since the first chapter of part 5 what with Karmic counter being used only once and a time slowing power (which by itself was more than enough to beat Crimson King) also only being used once, and then he also accidentally turns Bruno into a zombie and like idk anymore just let him do whatever the fuck he wants. Dumbest stand in general and Return to Zero doesn't really hurt anything anymore than the entire rest of part 5 idiocy hasn't already completely destroyed.

Silver chariot requiem has nothing to do with swords either though. Requiem abilities just dont seem to be based on their base stands. The requiem arrow is either a special arrow, or requiem stands require the STAND to be pierced rather than the users physical body, like with Kira.

Well I finished part 5. That had to be one of the most contrived, disappointing endings to an otherwise amazing story *series spoilers ahead*

King Crimson was built up to be such an imposing figure looming over the story, and I swore that his ability to erase sections of time was going to end up being countered by Giorno having inherited latent time abilities from Dio's World. That was the point of making him Dio's kid, right? For it to have some bearing on the story?

Well actually no, Araki wrote himself into a corner with Diavolo being way too OP, so the only counter was to give Giorno the I win button through the arrow (seriously, "your desires will never become reality" is the most ass pull power up ever). Then we get a weird out of place epilogue with rolling stones for seemingly no reason, followed by a time skip to Giorno having achieved his dream of being a mafioso. Payoff without having to show any of the work to get there.

The story is so nearly 10/10 material until literally the last few chapters, and it nose dives to about a 7/10 imo. Such a disappointment.

Diavolo wasn't really op. He would have been killed by Risotto/Metallica if Narancia didn't accidentally fuck everything up. The bigger problem was they had to stop him from getting the arrow.

Also they didn't just make this up for Giorno. It was a major plot point in part 4.

I know nothing about Jojo but I'm intrigued by it

Kinda losing steam on Jojo around part 6. I enjoy the characters and setting of it, but I guess that's what happens when you blast through 5 parts in a couple months

Fuck I really liked parts 2 and 4 though. S tier manga right there

Stardust Crusaders suck except for the Dio fight. Such a slog to read through.

Part 7 is different than the previous parts in pretty much every way, and many consider it the peak of the series

I really recommend pushing through 6 even if you dont love it just to get to 7