not even just "good for pokemon" like they're actually legit good
We need more of them
It manufactures difficulty by making money/items scarce, and putting healing points few and far in between
It manufactures difficulty by making money/items scarce,
What is the difference in your mind between manufactured difficulty and just straight-out difficulty?
and you can grind for money against any trainers in the towns, or any of the tournaments
Colosseum'a shadow mechanic is just way too slow and grindy for me.
Mt. Battle was a crazy feat and then with Ho-Oh at the end in a gen where it was otherwise impossible to get, man
Only certain trainers are actually available to rebattle. This is easily forgotten, since there are so few towns/trainers to begin with, granted. You're basically stuck grinding against that "We're the Five X trainers!" circle in that one town over and over again. And they never change their party.
Granted, I'm speaking about Colosseum, specifically. Maybe XD fixed this problem.
not true
the colosseums with the tournament style gameplay all give money for winning and can be done infinitely
the fort where miror b lives never clears and the trainers can be rematched
the entirety of pyrite town is filled with trainers
the under has trainers
agate town has trainers
just off the top of my head
one of them is the "trainer circle
boss-esque "tournaments"
the whole pathway up to the pyrite Colosseum is battle able not just the circle
Is it grindy? Yes. Doesn't mean it wasn't good.
Limited Pokemon? Yeah, how many people used mons they normally wouldn't because of that?
I mean isn't the biggest complaint against Pokemon now that you can't use the entire Dex? Colosseum took that and went "Oh yeah? Well, how about 1/10th of that?"
I just think it's weird that people cry foul about Sword/Shield, Scarlet/Violet, and so on, because they can't use the entire Dex, but suddenly Colosseum is seen as a good game, when it was perhaps the most limited, slow, grindy Pokemon game ever released?
I can trade over Donphan over to Colosseum if I wanted to, but Sword and Shield tells me to go fuck myself.Gonephan
That is the difference.
Colosseum was basically there to get you Pokemon unavailable in Ruby and Sapphire.
Sword and Shield just straight up said certain Pokemon no longer exists.
I can trade over Donphan over to Colosseum if I wanted to, but Sword and Shield tells me to go f*** myself.
That is the difference.
But in practice, is it really that much of a difference, if Colosseum practically doesn't even let you use Donphan at all, since you can't trade it over for the main story? You can use it in such an incredibly limited fashion that you might as well not use it at all. To me, that doesn't feel like much of a difference. I guess mileage varies though.The difference is the expectations. Nobody expects to be able to use everything in a side game. Everyone expected to keep using all the Pokemon in a mainline game, and there was never a valid reason given as to why they stopped.