TC is making a valid point but it seems to have hurt some peoples feelings.Not really a valid point, and I don't think he's hurting anyone's feeling either.
When has calling someone fat not been insult?
You was clearly talking about your points like recognising yourself as a cope As the funny fatman and hating yourself and your personality from being overweight..
Pleasecan some of these users gain self awareness a little and not fight a point you werent even saying?
People want to call others fat so much. I didn't expect that .
You change their language.
Nah, I'm a fat fuck. Stop trying to normalize an unhealthy lifestyle.
I mean that's a pretty dishonest interpretation of what's being said
No, because you don't want to lie to people about the problems they're facing
Stop trying to normalize an unhealthy lifestyle.
How is cjs lying? They're acknowledging the problem but suggesting we not reduce people to a singular adjective because it can have an adverse effect on their weight loss goals.
I wasn't aware calling people fat gave them calories
No matter how much extra weight you have. YOU ARE NOT AMERICAN. You have American citizenship. American citizenship does not define you; it is not your personality, nor is it an intrinsic part of who you are. Its simply something that you carry with you. If American citizenship were truly a part of your identity, it would imply it is permanent, but thats not the case. You can renounce a citizenship, but you cant renounce what truly makes you, you. So rest assured, you are not American.underrated post
I wasn't aware calling people fat gave them calories, I always thought that was based on the food they consumed?
I understand what TC is saying. There is nothing wrong with moving away from derogatory labels. I don't think it is lying to someone by telling them they're overweight or obese while still outlining how unhealthy it is. The message is there and doesn't somehow become clearer by calling the person fat.
However, I feel its important to share a message for anyone who might need to hear it, and everyone on the board. Whether youre 50, 100, or 300 pounds overweight, please remember: You are not fat. You have fat. Fat does not define you; it is not your personality, nor is it an intrinsic part of who you are.
Bro, TC is not saying Use a nicer term. Hes saying No, you are not fat at all.
I literally said they are carrying fat.
You also said you are not fat.
Make it make sense.
If someone has an STD. Do you say they have an this illness , or do you say they are this illness.
If someone has an STD. Do you say they have an this illness , or do you say they are this illness.
When you label yourself with negative terms, it reinforces harmful stereotypes and beliefs associated with being overweight. You are not just a fat f---. Such self-labeling can be a form of resignation, AKA a cop out. Oh I am a fat f---- so I can't do anything about it. Join us at the Health and Wellness Social , stop calling yourself bad things, and call yourself a warrior because you are going to put the work in.Words have definitions.
Should we stop calling an addict an addict?
Should we stop calling an alcoholic an alcoholic?
Research finds when people use the terms addict or alcoholic, it often invokes a negative attitude toward the person, not the behavior.
A person with an addiction is likely to feel like they are losing control, yet only 1 in 10 reach out for help.
Shame and stigma stem from the labels placed upon people.
It creates helplessness. It can lead to negative self-talk, such as: If Im an addict, then Ill always be an addict. Helplessness keeps people turning to alcohol or substances, even though they know these things are bad for them because there dont seem to be better options. However, if that individual sees themselves as "someone with an addiction," then they may also envision themselves as "someone without an addiction."
Should we stop calling an addict an addict?Should we call mentally ill people crazy?
Should we stop calling an alcoholic an alcoholic?
There's so many negative labels that definitively describe people as it has a definition.
Words have definitions.
Should we stop calling an addict an addict?
Should we stop calling an alcoholic an alcoholic?
There's so many negative labels that definitively describe people as it has a definition.
We agree those people shouldn't be made fun of. The only stereotypes being reinforced here is if on top of being what you are, you are also not trying to improve on those problem or worse doing things that adding to the problem.
What isn't helpful is pretending they aren't the definition of the very word, as some form of denial or bargaining with the facts
Should we call mentally ill people crazy?Some mentally ill people are crazy and I have no problem calling them as such. But one thing needs to be made clear, all mentally ill people aren't crazy, so no to your question. Charles Whitman or Hitler however I have no problem calling crazy. But again, not all mentally ill people are crazy, so no your generalization question doesn't fit.
Should we call people failures when they have objectively failed at something?
Oh damn no wonder you were intentionally misinterpreting what people said. You didn't even read the topic title
We already discussed many alternatives to pretending the issue isn't there by framing it in a non-definitive way before you even posted the first time.
All you wanted to get out of it (notice I say "wanted" because it's actually impossible to comprehend those posts the way you intended to) was that people wanted to call others fat.
And look at the amount of people in this topic that are or were fat by their own admission that disagree with the premise because they wanted to acknowledge that it's an active problem they're facing or it played an intrinsic role in their character development. You gonna tell them they're all wrong too?
We already discussed the post in great detail, and why saying "you carry fat" instead isn't even an actual acknowledgement of the issue because literally every breathing person carries fat.
Come on really, you are going with that. When clearly in the post made it clear I was carrying to much weight. You are going to hang your hat on that.
intentionally misinterpreting what people said
TC literally said in the OP "you are not fat, you have fat". As already established, even the skinniest, most malnourished human beings have fat.
TC literally said in the OP "you are not fat, you have fat".
I'm definitely being trolled right now. This guy tells me I'm "intentionally misinterpreting what people said" and "not reading the OP" and somehow completely missed this and the numerous posts on the first page that already discussed what's wrong with it.
Yep, I refuse to explain how telling a fat person they're not fat and using language that applies to everyone is lying to people that deal with the issue, even though numerous fat people in this topic chimed in and said as much.
You didn't establish that in your OP, which is precisely what buddy is claiming I didn't read
I remember a time when CJ wasn't a weird troll. Did his account get compromised or something?
No, you refuse to (or rather, are incapable of) explain how "you have fat, but it doesn't define you in the sense that you are [singular derogatory adjective]" is a lie. You are deliberately misrepresenting what has been said from your first post itt.