Being bullied does not absolve attempted murder.I mean, in a state with a stand your ground law, being attacked first actually does absolve attempted murder
I mean, there's defending yourself and then there's smashing someone's head against the sidewalk. Regardless of who started the fight it looks like she's straight up trying to kill the other girl.Sometimes the best defense is a good offense.
It is funny how so many people who support stand your ground threw it out of the window for this case .
These situations are never black and whiteEh, this one's pretty "black and white."
unless they literally are black and white, cuz then it's really simple.
It is funny how so many people who support stand your ground threw, it out of the window for this case .
I can't agree with this muddy the waters logic. Black people get this done to them almost constantly. I refuse to do it in this case.
I just cant endorse smashing someones head into the pavement several times and then leaving their twitching body on the ground.
so is misgendering+blaming a teenage murder victim acceptable within the TOS nowWho tf is misgendering?
I mean, there's defending yourself and then there's smashing someone's head against the sidewalk. Regardless of who started the fight it looks like she's straight up trying to kill the other girl.Neutralizing the threat.
Who tf is misgendering?I think theyre confusing this with the Nex Benedict case
The other girl is nerdy, an honor-roll student and college-bound. Kaylee probably thought it would be an easy beat down, and it wasn't.
Who tf is misgendering?different thing? my bad if so
I feel like people aren't really taking into account state of mind. Comments like "when the threat is neutralized just stop" and that's just not realistic. Especially if you "snapped" and lost control, blind rage is a thing.
I think theyre confusing this with the Nex Benedict caseDarkfire12 posted...
different thing? my bad if soOh ok np
Yes, and yet "blind rage" is not an excuse for a crime, so, uh...Okay? I'm just saying people aren't Vulcans and can't just turn it off on a dime in situations like that. Trained fighters can because they are trained that way, normal people in those situations are running on pure instinct and emotions.
I feel like people aren't really taking into account state of mind. Comments like "when the threat is neutralized just stop" and that's just not realistic. Especially if you "snapped" and lost control, blind rage is a thing.And when youre fighting multiple people, you dont really have the privilege to let the person you laid out come up behind you to sneak attack you while you fight off the next attacker.
Okay? I'm just saying people aren't Vulcans and can't just turn it off on a dime in situations like that. Trained fighters can because they are trained that way, normal people in those situations are running on pure instinct and emotions.
And when youre fighting multiple people, you dont really have the privilege to let the person you laid out come up behind you to sneak attack you while you fight off the next attacker.
So what's your point, exactly? Spell it out, please.Missouri is a stand your ground state. whether you think that's morally wrong or not, the law there says that when attacked, lethal force is justified. She could have shot her dead right there and if the law were applied consistently* she wouldn't even be facing charges. That is assuming the claims of who attacked who first are true
When you beat somebody, potentially to death, you better have a damn better reason than "blind rage."
If fighting multiple people and it's self defense lethal force is valid as far as I'm concerned.
Missouri is a stand your ground state. whether you think that's morally wrong or not, the law there says that when attacked, lethal force is justified. She could have shot her dead right there and if the law were applied consistently* she wouldn't even be facing charges. That is assuming the claims of who attacked who first are true
*it obviously isn't when it comes to skin color, but for the sake of argument
By Missouri law, you have to believe your life is in danger for stand your ground to apply, so this logic doesn't really apply to the situation, as far as we know from the videos released. An unarmed fight that you presumedly started, or, at best, agreed to take part in, would not fall under believing your life is in danger.
2. A person shall not use deadly force upon another person under the circumstances specified in subsection 1 of this section unless:
(1) He or she reasonably believes that such deadly force is necessary to protect himself, or herself or her unborn child, or another against death, serious physical injury, or any forcible felony ;
For what it's worth, the videos available do not show a brawl or fighting multiple people. It appears to be a one on one fight, and other people try to get involved to try to stop the attacker from beating on the victim, and then the attacker's friends step in, and then it becomes a brawl
I'm not against a bullying claim, but the video does not support it at all. The attacker appears to be the attacker for the entire video, and the only time it devolves into a brawl is when people try to stop her from beating on the victim.
https://codes.findlaw.com/mo/title-xxxviii-crimes-and-punishment-peace-officers-and-public-defenders/mo-rev-st-563-031/