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pistachio12 posted...
1. Stewart is seen as different from mainstream media, thus people have higher expectations of what his content should deliver.

Yeah, I don't really care that he criticized Biden in a general sense, I just greatly dislike that in order to use Trump as a punchline he legitimized the Hur report and neither explained before nor after that both Hur and his report were bullshit and that it was just a political hitjob against Biden to appease Republicans since he couldn't give them indictments.

Even the mainstream media is owning up to being hoodwinked initially by Hur (really it's their own fault for being so hard-on to hate on Biden for being old that they blasted the information on the first few pages before finishing it, but hey, at least they've been owning up to it at all) and Jon Stewart always informed his viewers and asked questions the mainstream media never would. Legitimizing the Hur report just to legitimize his jab at Trump without any background information or explanation as to essential facts rubbed me the wrong way and was either short-sighted or he just didn't care.
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DrizztLink posted...
The situation would go from shitty to apocalyptic pretty fuckin' fast.
When there was 5-4 Republican split they would sometime vote with the Democrats. They wanted a faade of professionalism so Democrats would do nothing when traitorous Mitch McConnel extrajudicially stole seats from Obama. At 6-3 they have no need for a faade.

Most important is they got what they most wanted before Trump stole the extra seat and it's not an apocalypse. Corporations are people and money is speech.

pistachio12 posted...
ButteryMales posted...
Their problem is Stewart criticizing Biden.
Really? I think it would have been far better if he did a whole segment on Biden and Israel. That's a very fair critique of his presidency, and something that actually talks about policy - not age.
Yes, really.

pistachio12 posted...
ButteryMales posted...
What would even change if it was 7, 8, or 9 conservative justices on the Supreme Court?
What do you even mean by this question? Please be more specific.
I meant it literally. What would change if they managed to get a 7th, 8th, or 9th conservative Supreme Court Justice if Trump gets a 2nd term. People seem to think they would be more comfortable crowning king Trump when they already had a majority and a chance to make him a king of the United States.
ButteryMales posted...
I meant it literally. What would change if they managed to get a 7th, 8th, or 9th conservative Supreme Court Justice if Trump gets a 2nd term. People seem to think they would be more comfortable crowning king Trump when they already had a majority and a chance to make him a king of the United States.
Good lord when people ask ridiculous questions like this.....

It's like people like you scream you don't know how to see the bigger picture. If you have to ask what the big deal is if Trump got 7, 8 or 9 Supreme Court picks, you are exactly the type of person Republicans adore.
LightningThief posted...
Good lord when people ask ridiculous questions like this.....

It's like people like you scream you don't know how to see the bigger picture. If you have to ask what the big deal is if Trump got 7, 8 or 9 Supreme Court picks, you are exactly the type of person Republicans adore.
Such a verbose pointless way to say nothing much would change.
ButteryMales posted...
I have no idea what you're trying to say. What other further left candidate? If Bernie disappeared/died before the primaries for 2016, I don't think anything would be different in the democratic party besides a huge maybe of Hillary winning. It's definitely the Overton window and not Bernie. After Obamacare every candidate was in favor of a public option or more.

No, attitudes against Hillary weren't nearly as intense until people on the left had a specific reason to resent her, which was that they weren't getting their socialist dreamscape leaning candidate. If it weren't him, I obviously have no idea who else it would have been, and it's very well possible 2016 could have gone to Democrats, thereby us never doing shit like leaving the Paris Climate Agreement. Could Warren have gotten that much into so many peoples' heads back in 2016? I really can't think of anyone on the far left in this country at that time that had more persuasive ability than Bernie. And unfortunately it went too far where it became a hatefest against people that weren't him.

So we agree becoming more progressive isn't a bad thing?

Edit: Elizabeth Warren might have won in 2020 being the sole progressive.

If all society was on board with becoming more progressive, that would be fucking great, and if all other countries trended the same way, we could actually make progress on issues that currently threaten our existence. But that's not the reality we have. You have to consider the practicality of winning elections and not alienating the slow-moving majority of the population.

As with Warren, yeah I don't care whether or not she could have won as that's a fight between progressive voters I never wanted to get in on. She doesn't come off inspiring to me personally, but if she or any Democratic candidate could become president and keep the presidency from going Republican, we'd all be better off.
LoZguy709 posted...
No, attitudes against Hillary weren't nearly as intense until people on the left had a specific reason to resent her, which was that they weren't getting their socialist dreamscape leaning candidate.
Hillary didn't lose because socialists in the swing states disliked her. Benghazi is still the same, "but her emails" is still the same, "it's her turn" is still the same, "drain the swamp" is still the same, and Trump would be seen as just as or more for healthcare with "repeal and replace" as a unknown quantity. In this hypothetical parallel world it's actually might have more socialists vote for Trump.
ButteryMales posted...
Such a verbose pointless way to say nothing much would change.
Is the goal here to further my point with this post that you are clueless that things would indeed change. Because I must admit you are doing a fantastic job!
LightningThief posted...
Is the goal here to further my point with this post that you are clueless that things would indeed change. Because I must admit you are doing a fantastic job!
It's almost like I asked a question and didn't get an answer. If you have all the knowledge and clues then how did you make it through your entire life not knowing how to answer a question?
ButteryMales posted...
Yes, really.

That doesn't even begin to address anything I said. You can't complain somebody doesn't answer your question when basic reading comprehension fails you in this same topic.

But I'll try to honestly answer this.

ButteryMales posted...
What would change if they managed to get a 7th, 8th, or 9th conservative Supreme Court Justice if Trump gets a 2nd term. People seem to think they would be more comfortable crowning king Trump when they already had a majority and a chance to make him a king of the United States.

  1. The problem isn't about him replacing the Liberal justices with conservatives (although that would certainly be bad). The issue is him replacing Alito and Thomas with young MAGA conservative judges.
  2. A democratic president might actually be able to replace Alito and Thomas with liberal judges and create a majority to right some wrongs.
  3. You keep assuming the arguments of others. No one in this topic has mentioned anything about the Supreme Court making Trump king.
Every currently seated conservative Justice lied to Congress during their confirmation hearings. Democrats would be well within their rights to impeach all of them except Roberts.
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Who cares if it helps trump take over the country and turn us into 1990's Iraq, at least Jon Stewart got to make fun of an old man and both sides a clearly one sided debate!
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pistachio12 posted...
That doesn't even begin to address anything I said. You can't complain somebody doesn't answer your question when basic reading comprehension fails you in this same topic.


ButteryMales posted...
That's nonsense. Their problem is Stewart criticizing Biden.
Somehow you turned "Their" into "Your" in your* brain and that's somehow my fault.

Use your* amazing ly bad reading comprehension on this next quote.
ClayGuida posted...
Who cares if it helps trump take over the country and turn us into 1990's Iraq, at least Jon Stewart got to make fun of an old man and both sides a clearly one sided debate!
ClayGuida and most other people complaining are angry Jon Stewart criticized Joe Biden.

pistachio12 posted...
1. The problem isn't about him replacing the Liberal justices with conservatives (although that would certainly be bad). The issue is him replacing Alito and Thomas with young MAGA conservative judges.
2. A democratic president might actually be able to replace Alito and Thomas with liberal judges and create a majority to right some wrongs.
3. You keep assuming the arguments of others. No one in this topic has mentioned anything about the Supreme Court making Trump king.
They're 73 and 75. If Biden wins they could die in these last 4 years but I doubt it. Copmala Harris is a joke so in 2028 I think the Republicans will probably win and just replace them then.

3. I was just saying what it honestly seems like.
ButteryMales posted...
People seem
I guess you don't know what the word "seem" means.

DrizztLink posted...
Because they're pretty fuckin' worried about Project 2025.
The only thing different from
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
is Trump would be king it seems.

*Reminder: When I say your I mean your.
You're not even engaging with my arguments. If you'd rather argue semantics, you can find someone else. (As a side note, you might not know what *people* means as I was included in that category and why their actually meant our .

To address the only thing related to our conversation,

ButteryMales posted...
They're 73 and 75. If Biden wins they could die in these last 4 years but I doubt it. Copmala Harris is a joke so in 2028 I think the Republicans will probably win and just replace them then.

You're right that there is no guarantee Biden would be able to replace them, but here's a few important things to think of.
  • Thomas has had health issues the past few years. As he is old, there is no telling what will happen.
  • If Trump is president again, I would almost guarantee Thomas and Alito retire. As seen from the last round, his nominations are Federalist society tested and young. Thus it would guarantee five young conservative Supreme Court justices for the next 20+ years.
  • If Biden wins this year, there is no way Harris is the nominee in 2028. She has demonstrated routinely that she is not fit for that job.
Sure Democrats would most likely need to still win in 2028 to ensure they put up new nominees on the Court, but if voters actually started paying attention to our judicial system, maybe they'd realize the importance.
pistachio12 posted...
You're not even engaging with my arguments.
You mean "my arguments" as "pistachio12's arguments" or "their arguments". I have to ask you because of your terrible reading comprehension.

pistachio12 posted...
If you'd rather argue semantics, you can find someone else. (As a side note, you might not know what *people* means as I was included in that category and why their actually meant our.
Why would I want to bother arguing semantics with hypocrite like you who can accuse someone of poor reading comprehension but buckles like a kitten when the accusation with proof is thrown back at them? I don't want to do this. What I would rather happen is for you to answer this question; If I said "People seem to like Trump." does that mean I was saying "You like Trump."?

pistachio12 posted...
if voters actually started paying attention to our judicial system, maybe they'd realize the importance.
So we need a miracle for anything to be different. Sounds like nothing would change like I implied from the beginning.
Another post where you ignore almost everything I post to instead argue semantics. Enjoy trolling someone else, you clearly have enough time for it.
2001mark posted...
Bernie was 81, cheered by youth.

Biden is 80 whatever, chastised by youth.

Good chat everyone. Let's see Bernie handle Israel, Ukraine, the economy, & MAGA all at once better than Biden.

I'm not sure if you're aware but BERNIE SANDERS ISN'T RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2024

Also, your math sucks. Bernie is 82 now. He was 77 when he announced his run for president last time, which is also way old but unlike Biden, Bernie was and still is playing with a full deck.
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Why did Stewart leave the show to begin with?
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ROBANN_88 posted...
Why did Stewart leave the show to begin with?
I think he was burned out.
If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter.
pistachio12 posted...
Another post where you ignore almost everything I post to instead argue semantics. Enjoy trolling someone else, you clearly have enough time for it.
You're not going to misread everything I write and just run away. Oh no, please don't.
ROBANN_88 posted...
Why did Stewart leave the show to begin with?
His health wasnt great.
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ButteryMales posted...
Hillary didn't lose because socialists in the swing states disliked her. Benghazi is still the same, "but her emails" is still the same, "it's her turn" is still the same, "drain the swamp" is still the same, and Trump would be seen as just as or more for healthcare with "repeal and replace" as a unknown quantity. In this hypothetical parallel world it's actually might have more socialists vote for Trump.
I'll never forget how she lost Pennsylvania. "If you're in the coal industry you're gonna lose your job! Right tim?
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ButteryMales posted...
Hillary didn't lose because socialists in the swing states disliked her. Benghazi is still the same, "but her emails" is still the same, "it's her turn" is still the same, "drain the swamp" is still the same, and Trump would be seen as just as or more for healthcare with "repeal and replace" as a unknown quantity. In this hypothetical parallel world it's actually might have more socialists vote for Trump.

The real problem was so many on the farther left in the country helping to drag her name through the mud and giving fodder to Trump supporters, accepting such labels as the lesser evil, the same way so many are doing with respect to Biden right now. The impact you have on this country goes way beyond just your own vote. For someone like me in Missouri, I think I make more impact fighting against shitty rhetoric than actually voting for anything federal or state related this season.
DragulaRULEZ posted...
@Midnight is back as After Midnight, I always loved that format.
Its great. Taylor Tomlinson is killing it as the host plus the comedians on the panels are usually great. Very funny show
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LoZguy709 posted...
The real problem was so many on the farther left in the country helping to drag her name through the mud and giving fodder to Trump supporters, accepting such labels as the lesser evil, the same way so many are doing with respect to Biden right now.
In his wikipedia James Comey is described "was a registered Republican for most of his adult life".
ButteryMales posted...
In his wikipedia James Comey is described "was a registered Republican for most of his adult life".
Which perfectly explains his ratfucking October surprise.

Do you actually think anyone here is saying that only the far left had issues with Hillary? Of course everyone knows about the GOP's thirty-years propaganda war vs. Hillary Clinton.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984
EPR-radar posted...
Do you actually think anyone here is saying that only the far left had issues with Hillary?
No. You should be asking LoZguy709 what he means by

LoZguy709 posted...
The real problem was
Can't believe we're still blaming Bernie for Clinton's loss. Real boring stuff.
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ButteryMales posted...
No. You should be asking LoZguy709 what he means by

Why you brought up James Comey is beyond me. I have no idea what made him want to help the president that would quickly fire him.

"The real problem" I was referring to was that after Hillary won the 2016, many (though not all or even most) progressives took it upon themselves to spread Trump's propaganda that Democrats aren't to be trusted because of "what they did to Bernie." If we on the left could be a bit savvy just enough to not be total tools of the opposition, we'd be making a lot more progress as a country.
LoZguy709 posted...
Why you brought up James Comey is beyond me.
You literally quoted me mentioning "but her emails" which includes James Comey then nonsensically pivoting back to leftists being "the real problem".
ButteryMales posted...
You literally quoted me mentioning "but her emails" which includes James Comey then nonsensically pivoting back to leftists being "the real problem".

Her emails were always a bunch of propped up bullshit. Same shit Republicans are doing to Biden on the basis of his son. They're always going to find some dumb shit to get their sheep Fox viewers to go on about.
LoZguy709 posted...
Her emails were always a bunch of propped up bullshit. Same shit Republicans are doing to Biden on the basis of his son. They're always going to find some dumb shit to get their sheep Fox viewers to go on about.
So the real problem is Republicans?
LoZguy709 posted...
Her emails were always a bunch of propped up bullshit. Same shit Republicans are doing to Biden on the basis of his son. They're always going to find some dumb shit to get their sheep Fox viewers to go on about.
A big part of the problem with "but her emails" was that it was amplified by people who should know better than to do that.

Everyone expects the right wing noise machine to do its thing, so what needs to change is nobody credible should be running with any narrative from the right wing noise machine.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984
ButteryMales posted...
So the real problem is Republicans?

Was I not supposed to take that as a given in this topic?

EPR-radar posted...
A big part of the problem with "but her emails" was that it was amplified by people who should know better than to do that.

Everyone expects the right wing noise machine to do its thing, so what needs to change is nobody credible should be running with any narrative from the right wing noise machine.

100% agreed. It could be hindsight bias, but there was a time we didn't fall for non-issues so damn easily.
EPR-radar posted...
A big part of the problem with "but her emails" was that it was amplified by people who should know better than to do that.

Everyone expects the right wing noise machine to do its thing, so what needs to change is nobody credible should be running with any narrative from the right wing noise machine.
James Comey was a part of the Obama administration so you should be time traveling and telling Barack Obama not to give Comey credibility.

LoZguy709 posted...
Was I not supposed to take that as a given in this topic?
You should have. We have already talked about how your first post in this topic was whataboutism nonsense that has nothing to do with the episode of the Daily Show.
ButteryMales posted...
James Comey was a part of the Obama administration so you should be time traveling and telling Barack Obama not to give Comey credibility.

Ok so Obama fucked up there and should have had insights into Comey's motivations? Honestly not sure what was behind him appointing a Republican as FBI Director, but he's always been under fire for being too partisan. This seems really freaking tangential though so forgive me if I really don't know what point you're trying to make here anymore.

You should have. We have already talked about how your first post in this topic was whataboutism nonsense that has nothing to do with the episode of the Daily Show.

I was referring to the self-defeating attitudes that seemed to only really surface in 2015/2016 with the contention between progressives and moderates. When I watched the 8 minute clip comparing Biden and Trump on age, I got strong senses of that again. I'm just gonna let Jon Stewart do his thing though because I think he knows the significant difference between Biden and Trump and he has insights into his audience that I obviously wouldn't, and if he can help bridge the divide somehow, that would be great for everyone.
LoZguy709 posted...
This seems really freaking tangential though so forgive me if I really don't know what point you're trying to make here anymore.
I wasn't talking to you there. I honestly don't care what you thought about it.

LoZguy709 posted...
I'm just gonna let Jon Stewart do his thing
Great, mission accomplished for me.
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