Disney 2012: We don't need any of this EU crap!

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SocialistGamer
09/23/2023
05:14 PM
#1
Disney 2023: Well actually...
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Dark_Arbron
09/23/2023
05:15 PM
#2
Nothing a corporation says can be trusted to remain true forever. Or even in the short term. Even if they say "this is our stance and we're not compromising."
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TonyKojima
09/23/2023
05:16 PM
#3
Whats this?
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SocialistGamer
09/23/2023
05:17 PM
#4
TonyKojima posted...
Whats this?
When Disney bought LucasFilm, they said they would throw out the Expanded Universe stuff saying none of it mattered and now Thrawn is the new big bad .
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Zikten
09/23/2023
05:18 PM
#5
TonyKojima posted...
Whats this?
Disney killed the expanded universe for star wars when they bought the franchise. A series of novels and books over 30 years in making was suddenly shut down
ScazarMeltex
09/23/2023
05:22 PM
#6
Zikten posted...
Disney killed the expanded universe for star wars when they bought the franchise. A series of novels and books over 30 years in making was suddenly shut down
Most of it was garbage anyways. Thrawn was one of the few bright spots so it makes sense to keep him in the canon.
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Euripides
09/23/2023
05:23 PM
#7
There's a difference between "not recognizing as canon" and "destroyed".

Anything they pull from the EU becomes canon.
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Zikten
09/23/2023
05:24 PM
#8
The old EU was essentially destroyed, because it's not being made anymore. Yea the old books still exist. But that version of the universe is dead. Some people followed those stories for 30 years. And then it just stopped.
Zikten
09/23/2023
05:25 PM
#9
Here is an example

Hans kids. They deleted his 3 EU children. In the EU he had 2 sons and a daughter and the 3 kids had a long saga just amongst themselves. I think one even becomes a Sith lord at one point
UnholyMudcrab
09/23/2023
05:26 PM
#10
The EU was almost entirely terrible anyway
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ROBANN_88
09/23/2023
05:26 PM
#11
SocialistGamer posted...
When Disney bought LucasFilm, they said they would throw out the Expanded Universe stuff saying none of it mattered and now Thrawn is the new big bad .

oh, that kind of EU
i came in here thinking this was about Disney really hating the European Union
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TonyKojima
09/23/2023
05:26 PM
#12
SocialistGamer posted...
When Disney bought LucasFilm, they said they would throw out the Expanded Universe stuff saying none of it mattered and now Thrawn is the new big bad .

Zikten posted...
Disney killed the expanded universe for star wars when they bought the franchise. A series of novels and books over 30 years in making was suddenly shut down
Right I remember hearing about that. I never knew much of it.
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Dark_Arbron
09/23/2023
05:27 PM
#13
ROBANN_88 posted...
oh, that kind of EU
i came in here thinking this was about Disney really hating the European Union

Doesn't it have better corporate regulation than the US? They probably do have a negative opinion of that EU.
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Bio1590
09/23/2023
05:41 PM
#14
ngl I thought this was about the European Union
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Kimbos_Egg
09/23/2023
05:41 PM
#15
Bio1590 posted...
ngl I thought this was about the European Union

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ROBANN_88
09/23/2023
05:42 PM
#16
Dark_Arbron posted...
Doesn't it have better corporate regulation than the US? They probably do have a negative opinion of that EU.

probably
which just made the " Disney 2023: Well actually... " comment all the more confusing
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Gobstoppers12
09/23/2023
05:46 PM
#17
They killed the EU because it needed to be killed, but a few of the concepts (if reworked to actually be good) were worth salvaging.
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TMOG
09/23/2023
05:48 PM
#18
Zikten posted...
Here is an example

Hans kids. They deleted his 3 EU children. In the EU he had 2 sons and a daughter and the 3 kids had a long saga just amongst themselves. I think one even becomes a Sith lord at one point
I read one of these books in seventh grade and it remains one of the biggest regrets of my childhood
LordFarquad1312
09/23/2023
05:50 PM
#19
Most of it was glorified garbage fan fiction.

Me and my homies hate Jango Fett, but the EU version is so incompetent he gets eaten by the sarlacc at least twice.
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Hayame_Zero
09/23/2023
05:51 PM
#20
Gobstoppers12 posted...
They killed the EU because it needed to be killed, but a few of the concepts (if reworked to actually be good) were worth salvaging.
This is always how I've viewed it. It was a fucking mess, and was mostly pretty bad fanfiction (i.e. Luuke Skywalker, the evil clone of Luke made from his severed hand), but picking the good parts of it to work into a more concise lore is fine with me.
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Gobstoppers12
09/23/2023
05:54 PM
#21
TMOG posted...
I read one of these books in seventh grade and it remains one of the biggest regrets of my childhood
A couple of the EU stories were okay, but most of them were bad. And they got worse and worse over time as the lore became increasingly convoluted and difficult to reconcile.

Destroying the EU was the best possible move, even if a few of the popular characters were worth revising and reintroducing.
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unknownhombre
09/23/2023
05:55 PM
#22
Bio1590 posted...
ngl I thought this was about the European Union

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Letsago
09/23/2023
05:55 PM
#23
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Necronmon
09/23/2023
06:02 PM
#24
Most of it was glorified garbage fan fiction.

Me and my homies hate Jango Fett, but the EU version is so incompetent he gets eaten by the sarlacc at least twice.

I mean...most of the Disney era stuff is worst...Boba Fett sure came out worst in this timeline.
AgentCoulson
09/23/2023
06:05 PM
#25
It's more like

Disney 2013: Everything that came before us barring what you see on screen is non canon but everything going forward is.

Disney 2023: So we might need to borrow a bit from that non canon stuff. Coming up with new shit is hard, okay?
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FurryPhilosifer
09/23/2023
06:07 PM
#26
It was the right decision. They can pick and choose the good parts to reintroduce.
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Punished_Blinx
09/23/2023
06:10 PM
#27
SocialistGamer posted...
When Disney bought LucasFilm, they said they would throw out the Expanded Universe stuff saying none of it mattered and now Thrawn is the new big bad .

But he's been in Disney's canon since like 2016
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Starks
09/23/2023
06:13 PM
#28
I wonder if a reimagining of Mara Jade is even possible at this point. Maybe as an ex?

Btw, as bad as Masters of Teras Kasi was, it was probably the most EU game.
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Monferno_AQW
09/23/2023
06:21 PM
#29
Necronmon posted...
I mean...most of the Disney era stuff is worse

Uhhh...no. There is nothing in-canon so far that equals the bad that was The Crystal Star and anything involving the Vong. And those are just the tip of the iceberg.
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Starks
09/23/2023
06:22 PM
#30
What made the Yuuzhan Vong so horrible?
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Toonstrack
09/23/2023
06:24 PM
#31
EU was never canon

Lucas stated so at the turn of the century. His plans for the sequel trilogy before Disney was ever involved also completely ignored it, and largely for good reason.

Some cool concepts but a whooooole lot of random nonsense that virtually breaks any in universe consistency
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Caracalla
09/23/2023
06:24 PM
#32
You mean, you guys never watched the original 3 little pigs cartoon?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB1mMNvrUrM
Necronmon
09/23/2023
06:30 PM
#33
What made the Yuuzhan Vong so horrible?

The Vong were some of the best of the EU really. And the Aftermath Trilogy, the High Republic and a lot of other books make Crystal Star look...not as bad.
Monferno_AQW
09/23/2023
06:33 PM
#34
Starks posted...
What made the Yuuzhan Vong so horrible?

Immunity, or at least an extremely high resistance, to the Force is the main thing. They're not like the ysalamiri, who use the Force to block the Force, a block that can be overcome.

We're told that life cannot exist without midichlorians and, in extension, the Force, yet the Vong exist without either.

And THIS...

Necronmon posted... The Vong were some of the best of the EU really. And the Aftermath Trilogy, the High Republic and a lot of other books make Crystal Star look...not as bad.

...is just plain wrong. Like what the hell???

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Vokrent
09/23/2023
06:34 PM
#35
my main issue with the old expanded universe was Karen Traviss.

The Xwing Rogue Squadron and Wraith Squadron series were great, most of Zahn's stuff was good, even if there was some funky concepts (Cloned Luuke, the anti-Force tree animals)

In regards to the Vong arc, it was overall decent, but i think some of the writers were weaker than others.
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A_Good_Boy
09/23/2023
06:38 PM
#37
Disney tossed out the EU because they thought it was all garbage and assumed they could make better canon Star Wars material because they have an army of writers. Only it turns out their new canon material sucks too and they have no idea what to even do with Star Wars. Instead of acknowledging that they fucked up in their initial decision to ban the EU they decided they'd just borrow pretty heavily from it anyways because even though the EU was crap that crap was still better than what they could come up with themselves. Now the best ideas that new Star Wars material has is old stuff based from material from the EU.
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Necronmon
09/23/2023
06:40 PM
#38
is just plain wrong. Like what the hell???

Everyone keeps moaning about how its always just Jedi and Sith but when they at last did something that was not just the dregs of the Empire or the Sith, AKA the vong everyone moaned that they were to diffrent and thus, its just Jedi VS SIth ever since. ( Facedesks) .
Punished_Blinx
09/23/2023
06:49 PM
#39
A_Good_Boy posted...
Disney tossed out the EU because they thought it was all garbage and assumed they could make better canon Star Wars material because they have an army of writers. Only it turns out their new canon material sucks too and they have no idea what to even do with Star Wars. Instead of acknowledging that they fucked up in their initial decision to ban the EU they decided they'd just borrow pretty heavily from it anyways because even though the EU was crap that crap was still better than what they could come up with themselves. Now the best ideas that new Star Wars material has is old stuff based from material from the EU.

The more obvious story is that the movie writers didn't care about the EU while the TV show writers (specifically Filoni) do.

Filoni already drew from the EU for his cartoon show Rebels back in 2015.
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09/23/2023
05:02 PM
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ScazarMeltex
09/23/2023
07:42 PM
#41
It should also be noted that Lucas did not consider it canon. The only things that were considered true canon until Disney bought it were the movies, The Clone Wars series, and video games made by Lucas Arts. Everything else was considered to be glorified fan fiction so far as Lucas was concerned.
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IShall_Run_Amok
09/23/2023
07:50 PM
#42
Star Wars fans: zomg I can't believe Spizz Natwanger is non canon, he was such a great villain

Disney: Good news! We're making Spizz Natwanger, from the somewhat beloved 90s PC game, the new villain of the Zom Klempo show, by popular demand.

Star Wars fans: suck an entire basket of my dick
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Necronmon
09/23/2023
09:02 PM
#43
It should also be noted that Lucas did not consider it canon. The only things that were considered true canon until Disney bought it were the movies, The Clone Wars series, and video games made by Lucas Arts. Everything else was considered to be glorified fan fiction so far as Lucas was concerned.

Do you think Lucas sees the Sequel trilogy as cannon after they lied to him and threw out his script?
ProfessorKukui
09/23/2023
09:10 PM
#44
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AceMos
09/23/2023
09:12 PM
#45
Necronmon posted...
Do you think Lucas sees the Sequel trilogy as cannon after they lied to him and threw out his script?
thats not what happened

they told him up front they would not use his script if they did not like it

and i can promise you fans would not have liked his ideas

seeing as they used several of his ideas in the last jedi and "fans" reacted by bullying an actress off twitter

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Euripides
09/23/2023
09:12 PM
#46
Necronmon posted...
Do you think Lucas sees the Sequel trilogy as cannon after they lied to him and threw out his script?

I don't care what Lucas thinks. He sold the rights, so his opinion means jack and shit
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AceMos
09/23/2023
09:13 PM
#47
as for this topic the old EU was not good and full of plot holes

hell the fan beloved take on the clone troopers from the cartoon

yea that contradicts some awful novels that depicted the clones as willing servants of the empire
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Monferno_AQW
09/23/2023
09:15 PM
#48
Necronmon posted...
Everyone keeps moaning about how its always just Jedi and Sith but when they at last did something that was not just the dregs of the Empire or the Sith, AKA the vong everyone moaned that they were to diffrent and thus, its just Jedi VS SIth ever since. ( Facedesks) .

Different=/=good in this case. The very existence of the Vong flies in the face of everything we've been told about the Force. It's why, despite Filoni saying they wouldn't have their immunity to the Force, Lucas flat-out told him "No" when he wanted to introduce the Vong into TCW with their own arc.
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AceMos
09/23/2023
09:19 PM
#49
Monferno_AQW posted...
Different=/=good in this case. The very existence of the Vong flies in the face of everything we've been told about the Force. It's why, despite Filoni saying they wouldn't have their immunity to the Force, Lucas flat-out told him "No" when he wanted to introduce the Vong into TCW with their own arc.
how do the vong fly in the face of what we are told about the force
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Toonstrack
09/23/2023
09:22 PM
#50
Necronmon posted...
Do you think Lucas sees the Sequel trilogy as cannon after they lied to him and threw out his script?

They didn't lie.

Lucas was fully aware of what creative authority he was giving up.

Furthermore his script is basically TLJ but with a few names and details changed around. Most of the stuff people complain about, the powerful female protagonist and etc were there in some form or another.

In fact Daisy Ridley began shooting under Reys original name, Kira, being from his script.

The EU crap, HTTE, Mara Jade, literslly none of it was even in the script. It was never canon in Lucas eyes and I'm not sure why he didn't just make another gd trilogy with the OT actors. They were right there and aside from Ford weren't exactly blowing up theaters with roles. Hamill spent 30 years doing cartoons and aged out, carrie spent 30 years doing various drugs and aged out. Both are legends but if anyone has issue with there not being an HTTE movie without em, blame Lucas.
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