Should be legal to assault nazis tbhI'd acquit you
Should be legal to assault nazis tbh
No.
The tag I have on you makes me a little suspicious of your intent here.
Hope this is just being passionate and not an attempt to make "look! violent left!" bait.
Near unconditional free speech has always been an awful idea.Hard disagree. Everyone deserves the right to civilly express their ideas no matter how completely shitty they are.
Curious on what Im tagged as lol
These people want my family dead just because we exist so yes, I believe assaulting them should come with no punishment.
Hard disagree. Everyone deserves the right to civilly express their ideas no matter how completely shitty they are.says the person whos life is not threatened by those ideas
I don't believe in violence because people have disgusting, backwards beliefs.Oh man, won't someone please think of the well being of literal street corner fucking nazis.
That's the tough reality of living in a country with relative freedom of speech. Things would break down really fast if we allowed violence against people with beliefs you think are dangerous. Imagine if sincere believers in Christianity or Islam were convinced an atheist like myself, or a gay person were offending their God and needed to be violently dealt with. Who decides?
says the person whos life is not threatened by those ideas
Should be legal to assault nazis tbh
Oh man, won't someone please think of the well being of literal street corner fucking nazis.
says the person whos life is not threatened by those ideasMaking wrongful assumptions about others just makes you look even more ignorant and prejudiced >_>
when free speech is limited, or violence is allowed against groups that hold unpopular or controversial opinions, historically that always comes back to hurt marginalized communities and minorities a lot more than hate groups and white supremacy.This
or violence is allowed against groups that hold unpopular or controversial opinions
You actually want the laws changed to specifically allow violence against people holding that ideology?Read the room dude. You're concern trolling over the well being of flag waving nazis cause you think you have some sanctimonious point that nobody has ever heard before, all while having the audacity to mock another user because of the tag you've placed on them. I don't see that user going to bat for the free speech of nazis, but I see you doing it.
How will you stop those laws from being manipulated in favor of allowing violence against ideology or groups and communities you belong to?
Also, aside from that - Historically, people like these Nazis do their best work as martyrs and provocateurs.
Hard disagree. Everyone deserves the right to civilly express their ideas no matter how completely shitty they are.
Hard disagree. Everyone deserves the right to civilly express their ideas no matter how completely shitty they are.
The other problem, is that when free speech is limited, or violence is allowed against groups that hold unpopular or controversial opinions, historically that always comes back to hurt marginalized communities and minorities a lot more than hate groups and white supremacy.
Torgo posted...Ah yes, that time that they famously murdered 7 million people while being martyrs. Shut the fuck up.
Also, aside from that - Historically, people like these Nazis do their best work as martyrs and provocateurs.
Except, we have countries like Canada and Germany that do just fine saying, yeah, we don't allow literal fucking nazism.
I genuinely feel like a fight may break out over here over this shit.Just be careful and don't go if you aren't prepared to defend yourself. Proud Boys and Patriot Front are one thing, they are mostly pussies who don't have the stomach for a fight. When I was doing security for LGBTQ events anytime they got in my face and I didn't back down like they expected they ran away.
If there's ever a sort of counter protest, I'm likely going to end up going. =/
Ah yes, that time that they famously murdered 7 million people while being martyrs. Shut the fuck up.
Leave it to CE to have people here who want to defend the right of Nazis to preach violent genocide. Defending or protecting them is enabling them.
Dude, you need to calm the fuck down.Yes
Answer me this:
Do you believe we should have the legal right to instigate a physical assault against members of hate groups that are demonstrating?
Dude, you need to calm the fuck down.Advocating for such a position here tends to draw the attention of the mods. I'll go so far as to say this: no one advocating an ideology predicated on the idea of the murder or enslavement of every single person who doesn't fit a specific profile is deserving of the protection of society. You don't to be assaulted? All you have to do is not advocate for genocide. That's it. It's not hard.
Answer me this:
Do you believe we should have the legal right to instigate a physical assault against members of hate groups that are demonstrating?
Yes
It's pre-emptive self defense. They'd do worse to me if they lived in your fantasy world.
Advocating for such a position here tends to draw the attention of the mods. I'll go so far as to say this: no one advocating an ideology predicated on the idea of the murder or enslavement of every single person who doesn't fit a specific profile is deserving of the protection of society. You don't to be assaulted? All you have to do is not advocate for genocide. That's it. It's not hard.
Do you believe we should have the legal right to instigate a physical assault against members of hate groups that are demonstrating?
I was asking the other dude - but okay.I'm a firm believer in the golden rule.
How far should the violence you are legally allowed to carry out on a hate group member go? Everything up to death? Death? Where is your line or lines?
Same question: Where is the line drawn?
What is the limit of violence to be enacted against a hate group member?
When does someone become eligible for this open vigilante violence?
I'm honestly just trying to gauge where people are on this, I'm kind of shocked how quickly people are to jump to violence.
I'm kind of shocked how quickly people are to jump to violence.Spock is surprised that people don't like nazis?
It's impossible to instigate a fight against a Nazi. Nazis are already actively trying to wipe people from existence. Biding their time until they think they've amassed enough numbers to do so is not the same as peacefully holding hateful views.
Fighting them is merely fighting back.