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joe40001
05/31/2023
05:42 AM
#1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvUNcr2C41E

I'd be curious about the thoughts of anybody else who checks it out.
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BurmesePenguin
05/31/2023
05:45 AM
#2
Shut the fuck up
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joe40001
05/31/2023
06:02 AM
#3
BurmesePenguin posted...
Shut the fuck up

Why such a rude response?
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Psuedo_Audacity
05/31/2023
06:03 AM
#4
BurmesePenguin posted...
Shut the fuck up

joe40001
05/31/2023
06:15 AM
#5
Is it recreational rudeness or is the rudeness meant to convey something?

Like you both could have easily just said nothing, so "I don't care" isn't what's being conveyed.

I really don't understand what the goal is. Unless it's just like boredom and it's fishing for drama, outside of that I don't get the logic behind being rude for no reason.
"joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori
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BurmesePenguin
05/31/2023
06:20 AM
#6
You faking ignorance as to why you're getting this reply is just reason number 300 as to why nobody wants to argue with you.
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Gobstoppers12
05/31/2023
06:23 AM
#7
lol I ain't watching no 44 minute video about boring stuff
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joe40001
05/31/2023
06:27 AM
#8
BurmesePenguin posted...
You faking ignorance as to why you're getting this reply is just reason number 300 as to why nobody wants to argue with you.

I know some people are rude towards me, or dislike that I'm not in lock-step with them politically, but like the kinds of overtly rude responses still do baffle me.

You act like whatever this rudeness is, the reason for it is crystal clear. So please, without vague allusions, using specific words, what specifically would you say is the issue?
"joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori
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Psuedo_Audacity
05/31/2023
06:30 AM
#9
You're a fucking joke.
joe40001
05/31/2023
06:31 AM
#10
Gobstoppers12 posted...
lol I ain't watching no 44 minute video about boring stuff

This kind of response, for example, makes total sense to me. I totally understand lots of people being like "not interested" and moving on. Just because I found a conversation interesting doesn't mean everybody will.

The rude responses do still confuse me though...
"joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori
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BurmesePenguin
05/31/2023
06:31 AM
#11
Shut the fuck up.
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CyricZ
05/31/2023
06:32 AM
#12
Why do you think anyone would want to watch that video with no setup when it comes from someone with your reputation?
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ToadallyAwesome
05/31/2023
06:32 AM
#13
Yeah, not watching that. Its not worth the time and I know from experience that TC just wants to do his normal gimmick.
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Hornezz
05/31/2023
06:35 AM
#14
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/9/AACpnzAAEhrr.jpg
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PBusted
05/31/2023
06:35 AM
#15
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/0/AAJHVqAAEdBG.jpg
joe40001
05/31/2023
06:42 AM
#16
CyricZ posted...
Why do you think anyone would want to watch that video with no setup when it comes from someone with your reputation?

I'm not sure what "my reputation" is supposed to mean. I'll interpret it possibly more charitable than you might have meant and interpret it as "guy who doesn't necessarily share the common perspectives around here around everything."

And idk, I'm interested in diverse perspectives, so it stands to reason that others here might be interested too.

I mean I could try to "sell" the video with setup, but I don't even think it's that amazing, it's not my perspective, but it's also not not my perspective. It was just a political conversation I found interesting.

I guess, in my head, I like imagining some people some times are curious about perspectives they wouldn't otherwise necessarily hear, because I am that way. And so I shared it in case there was such a person.

I'm fine with it getting no responses, but I do get confused by rude responses.

Idk, do you think sharing it is a mistake? If so, why?
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BurmesePenguin
05/31/2023
06:44 AM
#18
Hornezz posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/9/AACpnzAAEhrr.jpg
Literally TC
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Raikuro
05/31/2023
06:50 AM
#19
TC only describing the vid as "different opinions" makes me want to watch it even less
joe40001
05/31/2023
06:53 AM
#20
Hornezz posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/3/9/AACpnzAAEhrr.jpg

The whole sea-lion thing doesn't even make sense.

What's the idea, it's a person who asks you questions and is polite and that proves they are bad?

That doesn't make any sense. It seems like people invoke this "sea-lion" claim when they are challenged or questioned, and then if you ask them what they even mean, or what it would look like to challenge or question them in a way that isn't "sea-lioning" they also call that "sea-lioning". Which, for no apparent reason, I guess means they think they are justified in being dismissive towards it.

IMO, seems like a lot of work to just indirectly say "I don't like being challenged".

And even if that is the case, like, how is me sharing a video something that is invading your space? It has nothing to do with you. Can I invent a dismissive animal name for somebody who comes into a topic and takes it personally when it has nothing to do with them?

Stop "Selfish Otter"ing, Hornezz. It's not about you, Selfish Otter. Sometimes people just share videos and it's not a personal attack on your space or self, it's just people sharing videos you aren't into.
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Hornezz
05/31/2023
06:58 AM
#21
Do you have a source for that?
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joe40001
05/31/2023
07:00 AM
#22
Hornezz posted...
Do you have a source for that?

For what?
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Fluttershy
05/31/2023
07:05 AM
#23
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/1/AAbvRMAAEhr3.jpg
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NoMeLx22x
05/31/2023
07:10 AM
#24
No one on planet earth is watching an unqualified 44 minute video with absolutely no context.

Post what was interesting. What you liked about it. What you thought that other people with similar thoughts than yours would like.

Maybe then at least like 1 person will skim through it but otherwise you're just vomiting out a video that no one is gonna watch based on who you are and your usual garbage opinions.
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joe40001
05/31/2023
07:10 AM
#25
Fluttershy posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/1/AAbvRMAAEhr3.jpg

You are proving my point for me.

I can't tell if you are doing it intentionally or you are oblivious to it, but you pretty much perfectly demonstrated my point.

So... um... thanks?
"joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori
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Fluttershy
05/31/2023
07:12 AM
#26
ever get the feeling you're the last to get something?
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BurmesePenguin
05/31/2023
07:15 AM
#27
Fluttershy posted...
ever get the feeling you're the last to get something?
He gets it.

He just does it anyway and pretends he doesn't understand why people are being "rude" to him.

It's not rude to treat people better than they deserve, though, so even there he's wrong.
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CyricZ
05/31/2023
07:18 AM
#29
joe40001 posted...
I'm not sure what "my reputation" is supposed to mean. I'll interpret it possibly more charitable than you might have meant and interpret it as "guy who doesn't necessarily share the common perspectives around here around everything."
You'll never improve at this until you get some perspective on how other people view you.

I know your type like to refer to "the marketplace of ideas", but even that metaphor implies its existence as a "marketplace", with different "vendors" and you have vendors that are trusted, and vendors that are less trusted.

Ultimately, you'll still have to effectively sell your "product", and if someone with your mod history were to present what is essentially "a black box" and expect people to trust you, that's when you truly failed at understanding your business and your customers.
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joe40001
05/31/2023
07:23 AM
#30
NoMeLx22x posted...
No one on planet earth is watching an unqualified 44 minute video with absolutely no context.

Post what was interesting. What you liked about it. What you thought that other people with similar thoughts than yours would like.

Maybe then at least like 1 person will skim through it but otherwise you're just vomiting out a video that no one is gonna watch based on who you are and your usual garbage opinions.

Like most discussions it can't be summed up in 2 seconds. It talks about mental health, free speech, social media's negative effects particularly among certain age groups/demographics, certain campus politics, and many other things. I don't want to summarize stuff because often people just latch onto a headline or a summary and turn it into a long discussion over a title and not the content itself.

But like, you don't have to watch it. Nobody does. Skip it, skim through it. I just shared it because I found it interesting, and thought somebody else here might. But if nobody does that's fine too.

I don't understand why it feels like I'm supposed to "sell" this video if I want people to watch it. Watch it or don't. Take it or leave it. It's literally just a video I found interesting that I thought others might find interesting too.
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Eat_More_Beef
05/31/2023
07:29 AM
#32
Times change. Get with them or make a podcast complaining about how things used to be better, the podcast.
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Prismsblade
05/31/2023
07:30 AM
#33
I really hate when people post a long ass video, doesn't elaborate on it at all or even provide a short summery, then expects everyone to watch and discuss it.
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Jiek_Fafn
05/31/2023
07:34 AM
#34
Fluttershy posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/1/AAbvRMAAEhr3.jpg
Lmao
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toreysback
05/31/2023
07:34 AM
#35
joe40001 posted...
I don't understand why it feels like I'm supposed to "sell" this video if I want people to watch it.

because there are about 1000 yt videos i haven't got a chance to watch yet that seem interesting to me. Based solely on the thumbnail, this does not displace any of the 1000. it can get in line.

and i am supposed to do this just for the pleasure of arguing with you about it? you are so hungry for an argument of any sort, that you are happily arguing with people about whether you are the kind of person who should be argued with at all
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joe40001
05/31/2023
07:37 AM
#36
CyricZ posted...
You'll never improve at this until you get some perspective on how other people view you.

I know your type like to refer to "the marketplace of ideas", but even that metaphor implies its existence as a "marketplace", with different "vendors" and you have vendors that are trusted, and vendors that are less trusted.

Ultimately, you'll still have to effectively sell your "product", and if someone with your mod history were to present what is essentially "a black box" and expect people to trust you, that's when you truly failed at understanding your business and your customers.

Firstly, I don't know what "mod history" has to do with trust. It seems like it has to do with understanding and inferring the rules and expectations of an environment and playing by the rules to the best of your ability.

I don't think you know what "my type" is. As I fundamentally don't see any of this the way you are representing.

IMO Ideas aren't sales, ideas are about discussion and people both learning from each other. It's not winning and losing, it's people enriching each other with different perspectives.

I don't see people I disagree with as enemies or customers, they are people who I might have some insight to offer to, and also people who might have insight to offer me. Nobody is a perfect oracle of truth, you learn/grow by challenging yourself, which is why I am interested in diverse perspectives including those that are novel to me, and infer that others in the world might be similarly interested too.
"joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori
http://i.imgur.com/TheGsZ9.gif
joe40001
05/31/2023
07:38 AM
#37
Prismsblade posted...
I really hate when people post a long ass video, doesn't elaborate on it at all or even provide a short summery, then expects everyone to watch and discuss it.

Fortunately I didn't do the last part, so we're good.
"joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori
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hockeybub89
05/31/2023
07:39 AM
#38
Shut the fuck up, TC and go away already. There has to be some way for you to get yourself permabanned already.
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hockeybub89
05/31/2023
07:40 AM
#39
joe40001 posted...
I don't see people I disagree with as enemies or customers, they are people who I might have some insight to offer to, and also people who might have insight to offer me. Nobody is a perfect oracle of truth, you learn/grow by challenging yourself, which is why I am interested in diverse perspectives including those that are novel to me, and infer that others in the world might be similarly interested too.
I don't think it is possible for any person to be full of more shit than you are right now.
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action52
05/31/2023
07:41 AM
#40
Huh, I wonder if this actually shows an interesti--oh wait, never mind, it's a Joenumbers topic
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AnsestralRecall
05/31/2023
07:42 AM
#42
Haidt is never worth listening to
A_Good_Boy
05/31/2023
07:42 AM
#43
hockeybub89 posted...
Shut the fuck up, TC and go away already. There has to be some way for you to get yourself permabanned already.
Just ask him to elucidate the instances of trans-genocide that's being perpetrated by conservative right wing state governments, and I'm sure he'll eventually oblige us with that banning.
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codey
05/31/2023
07:47 AM
#44
PBusted posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/0/AAJHVqAAEdBG.jpg

*runs out of topic naked*
joe40001
05/31/2023
07:47 AM
#45
toreysback posted...
because there are about 1000 yt videos i haven't got a chance to watch yet that seem interesting to me. Based solely on the thumbnail, this does not displace any of the 1000. it can get in line.

and i am supposed to do this just for the pleasure of arguing with you about it? you are so hungry for an argument of any sort, that you are happily arguing with people about whether you are the kind of person who should be argued with at all

Who says you are supposed to watch it? I didn't.

I just shared it. I didn't demand anybody watch it. I only would need to sell if I was personally invested in as many people watching as possible. But I am not. I was sharing it for anybody who might be interested. If the amount of people who are interested is 0, so be it. I shared it because there exists a non-zero chance a person or multiple people *might* be interested, but that is different than me requiring anybody specifically be interested.

I am not requiring anybody specifically be interested.

It's like me making a topic saying "Hey, burger king is having a great deal on burgers" and then a bunch of people being like "convince me that I should get these burgers" or "yeah, I don't like burger king"

And like, yeah that's fine. Not everything is for everybody. Whatever, it's no big deal.
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Antifar
05/31/2023
07:49 AM
#46
Above all else, I just don't understand where one finds the time to make YouTube a major means of their information consumption
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hockeybub89
05/31/2023
07:49 AM
#47
GOP: "LGBTQ people are evil! They're demons! They want to groom our children and rape them! We need to eliminate the LGBTQ agenda. It has no place in America. It is a thread to freedom and safety!"

Joe Numbers: "I don't know about you guys, but I will give that a charitable interpretation since I believe in diverse viewpoints that go against the common one. Diverse thought and discussion is good for the mind. They clearly are just slightly upset about some of the more radical and stubborn activists. They don't want to harm anyone and you all will probably find they make some good points if you give them a fair chance. Remember that Daryl Davis has converted KKK members. There is common ground, a compromise we can meet at. Stubbornness makes you just as bad as them, worse even if you think your beleifs make you a better person."
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joe40001
05/31/2023
07:51 AM
#48
GranolaPanic posted...
You said in the first post that you wanted our thoughts on the video and to discuss it without giving a single detail on what it was about.

I said:
"I'd be curious about the thoughts of anybody else who checks it out."

That doesn't require that anybody checks it out, that just says if somebody did check it out I'd be curious about their thoughts.

So yeah, I never did the " then expects everyone to watch and discuss it." part
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joe40001
05/31/2023
07:52 AM
#49
Antifar posted...
Above all else, I just don't understand where one finds the time to make YouTube a major means of their information consumption

For things like this I was listening while I played video games.

Idk, what do you like to listen to for information consumption?
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NoMeLx22x
05/31/2023
07:52 AM
#50
joe40001 posted...
I'd be curious about the thoughts of anybody else who checks it out.

This is what you posted in the OP.

Why would anyone want to check it out? That's why you should sell the video. No one sees a 44 minute video and is ever gonna watch with no context.

However, if someone posted a 44 minute video and said what was in it and what to expect and what topics were discussed and what they liked and didn't like about the video, or what others might find intereeting about it, then maybe ill give it a try.

You wouldn't do this with people in real life. You wouldn't just walk up to group of friends/people and talk about this interesting video that you watched last night, and when they asked you what it was about or what was interesting go "oh you should just watch it and see" they'd think you were an asshole. So why do it here?
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