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ledbowman
02/13/2018
01:34 AM
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What does Black Lives Matter mean?


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It's a pretty confusing name so I was wondering what you all think.
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ledbowman
02/13/2018
02:39 PM
#2
Morning bump
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boxington
02/13/2018
02:40 PM
#3
the latter.
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ledbowman
02/13/2018
02:42 PM
#4
So those Breitbart commenters weren't lying...
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Paper_Okami
02/13/2018
02:43 PM
#5
boxington posted...
the latter.
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UnfairRepresent
02/13/2018
02:43 PM
#6
Only black lives matter doesn't make sense.

If people truly believed that then every day they would be casually running down white and Asian people on their way to work.
^ Hey now that's completely unfair.
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_Near_
02/13/2018
02:44 PM
#7
ledbowman posted...
So those Breitbart commenters weren't lying...


look at who you're asking
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Solar_Crimson
02/13/2018
02:44 PM
#8
ledbowman posted...
Black Lives Also Matter

This is what they are going for, and would have made for a much better, clearer name.
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ledbowman
02/13/2018
02:59 PM
#10
"Black Lives Matter" just sounds so selfish and hateful.
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r4X0r
02/13/2018
03:01 PM
#11
Ultimately BLM is just another group of idealistic fools that have been hijacked by the left.

http://www.cpusa.org/article/get-connected-to-the-resistance/

There are many new organizations springing up from the Womens March, from Indivisible, from the immigrant communities and native peoples, joining the Fight for $15 and the labor movement, Black Lives Matter, Planned Parenthood and many more. The Communist Party is committed to doing all it can to help build a united resistance in every community where we live and work.
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ThyCorndog
02/13/2018
03:01 PM
#12
ledbowman posted...
Black Lives Also Matter

this one. kind of obvious but people like to play dumb for their own ends
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Taharqa_
02/13/2018
03:02 PM
#13
ledbowman posted...
"Black Lives Matter" just sounds so selfish and hateful.


This is like getting miffed at Breast Cancer Awareness month.
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Darklit_Minuet
02/13/2018
03:02 PM
#14
ledbowman posted...
"Black Lives Matter" just sounds so selfish and hateful.

You would only think so if you thought black lives don't matter.

I'm white and I have no problem with it
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scorpion41
02/13/2018
03:03 PM
#16
DuranOfForcena posted...
if it means "Black Lives Also Matter", then why don't BLM supporters like it when white people respond "yeah, all lives matter", which is a validation of "Black Lives Also Matter" but not a validation of "Only Black Lives Matter"?


Because BLM supporters are selfish and spiteful.
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Darklit_Minuet
02/13/2018
03:04 PM
#17
DuranOfForcena posted...
if it means "Black Lives Also Matter", then why don't BLM supporters like it when white people respond "yeah, all lives matter", which is a validation of "Black Lives Also Matter" but not a validation of "Only Black Lives Matter"?

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ThyCorndog
02/13/2018
03:05 PM
#18
just think about it this way

if someone says "this issue matters", since when did that mean other issues didn't matter? people are either racist or playing dumb. you have that option for one or the other. I can't think of a third one
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Taharqa_
02/13/2018
03:05 PM
#19
scorpion41 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
if it means "Black Lives Also Matter", then why don't BLM supporters like it when white people respond "yeah, all lives matter", which is a validation of "Black Lives Also Matter" but not a validation of "Only Black Lives Matter"?


Because BLM supporters are selfish and spiteful.


Being against extra-judicial police shootings and killing as well as police brutality is selfish and spiteful?
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scorpion41
02/13/2018
03:09 PM
#20
Taharqa_ posted...
scorpion41 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
if it means "Black Lives Also Matter", then why don't BLM supporters like it when white people respond "yeah, all lives matter", which is a validation of "Black Lives Also Matter" but not a validation of "Only Black Lives Matter"?


Because BLM supporters are selfish and spiteful.


Being against extra-judicial police shootings and killing as well as police brutality is selfish and spiteful?


When it happens to people of other races, but you only care when it happens to yours? Yeah.
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Darklit_Minuet
02/13/2018
03:10 PM
#21
scorpion41 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
scorpion41 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
if it means "Black Lives Also Matter", then why don't BLM supporters like it when white people respond "yeah, all lives matter", which is a validation of "Black Lives Also Matter" but not a validation of "Only Black Lives Matter"?


Because BLM supporters are selfish and spiteful.


Being against extra-judicial police shootings and killing as well as police brutality is selfish and spiteful?


When it happens to people of other races, but you only care when it happens to yours? Yeah.

If it ends up banning all police brutality and killings, does it matter the reason they were for it?

They have a good goal. That's what matters. They're not just going to ban police brutality against black people, it'll apply to everyone
Taharqa_
02/13/2018
03:11 PM
#22
scorpion41 posted...
Taharqa_ posted...
scorpion41 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
if it means "Black Lives Also Matter", then why don't BLM supporters like it when white people respond "yeah, all lives matter", which is a validation of "Black Lives Also Matter" but not a validation of "Only Black Lives Matter"?


Because BLM supporters are selfish and spiteful.


Being against extra-judicial police shootings and killing as well as police brutality is selfish and spiteful?


When it happens to people of other races, but you only care when it happens to yours? Yeah.

Did the Civil Rights legislation help only black people or all minorities?

Will holding officers accountable for any wrongdoing as opposed to sweeping it under the rug help all citizens or only black people?
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Solar_Crimson
02/13/2018
03:20 PM
#23
The scary thing here is that 50-60 years ago, many users here would be making some of the same arguments against the Civil Rights movement.
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Kineth
02/13/2018
03:23 PM
#24
DuranOfForcena posted...
if it means "Black Lives Also Matter", then why don't BLM supporters like it when white people respond "yeah, all lives matter", which is a validation of "Black Lives Also Matter" but not a validation of "Only Black Lives Matter"?


Because All Lives Matter goes off the assumption that BLM is saying only black lives matter. You wouldn't need to replace it with All Lives Matter if you understood that it was already saying that in the first place and the redundancy is just to take the focus away from the issue.
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Kineth
02/13/2018
03:24 PM
#25
Darklit_Minuet posted...
They have a good goal. That's what matters. They're not just going to ban police brutality against black people, it'll apply to everyone


It's fucking amazing that this needs to be explained to some people.
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scorpion41
02/13/2018
03:27 PM
#26
Civil Rights era and this era are vastly different. Back then blacks were actually targeted. This boogeyman about how cops are murdering blacks now is bull. More white people are killed by police than black people every year and the justice system is just as lenient...why is it more important to recognize the killing of black people?
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Kineth
02/13/2018
03:29 PM
#27
scorpion41 posted...
More white people are killed by police than black people every year and the justice system is just as lenient...why is it more important to recognize the killing of black people?


Ah suddenly you have no idea what per capita stats are.
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ledbowman
02/13/2018
03:29 PM
#29
Why would you name it Black Lives Matter if it's so obvious and understood that All Lives Matter?
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Kineth
02/13/2018
03:32 PM
#30
DuranOfForcena posted...
literally nope. it is a validation of Black Lives Also Matter. it is a statement of agreeing that black lives matter


That is literally not how All Lives Matter was used. I mean, I agree with how your premises would play out, but that is very much not what was happening. All Lives Matter was used as a way to invalidate the name of the movement by setting up this narrative. Then you got Blue Lives Matter following that.... Anyone who can read a book or understand context clues should have been able to figure out that the name meant Black Lives Also Matter (heh, BLAM would have been a good acronym).

ledbowman posted...
Why would you name it Black Lives Matter if it's so obvious and understood that All Lives Matter?


If it was so obvious that All Lives Mattered, Black people wouldn't be getting targeted by the legal system more.
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DifferentialEquation
02/13/2018
03:33 PM
#31
It started out as phrase used by someone who incorrectly thought that black lives were valued less than others lives. Over time it because an anti-white, anti-Trump tendril of the left.
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scorpion41
02/13/2018
03:35 PM
#32
Kineth posted...
scorpion41 posted...
More white people are killed by police than black people every year and the justice system is just as lenient...why is it more important to recognize the killing of black people?


Ah suddenly you have no idea what per capita stats are.


So youll admit Im right and have to resort to there are more white people so... arguments.
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Taharqa_
02/13/2018
03:36 PM
#33
scorpion41 posted...
Civil Rights era and this era are vastly different. Back then blacks were actually targeted. This boogeyman about how cops are murdering blacks now is bull. More white people are killed by police than black people every year and the justice system is just as lenient...why is it more important to recognize the killing of black people?


Wow, police brutality is a figment of black people's imagination. I think we're done here.
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Taharqa_
02/13/2018
03:36 PM
#34
Solar_Crimson posted...
The scary thing here is that 50-60 years ago, many users here would be making some of the same arguments against the Civil Rights movement.


Yup.
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K181
02/13/2018
03:38 PM
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metralo
02/13/2018
03:39 PM
#36
K181 posted...
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mustang90
02/13/2018
03:40 PM
#37
I sure hope the people voting for the first option are trolling. If not, then this place is even more fucking pathetic than I previously thought.
scorpion41
02/13/2018
03:41 PM
#38
Taharqa_ posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Civil Rights era and this era are vastly different. Back then blacks were actually targeted. This boogeyman about how cops are murdering blacks now is bull. More white people are killed by police than black people every year and the justice system is just as lenient...why is it more important to recognize the killing of black people?


Wow, police brutality is a figment of black people's imagination. I think we're done here.


Thats what you got from that? You should go work for CNN.
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Illuminoius
02/13/2018
03:42 PM
#39
obviously it's supposed to mean "hey dudes stop killing us, the lives of black people matter too" but of course the internet has to turn it into some supremacy thing
Anarchy_Juiblex
02/13/2018
03:42 PM
#40
It means, "We're so bad at our message 3 years later people will still be arguing about the title instead of finding common ground against police brutality and overreach."

It also means, "Any reduction in black police shootings will come solely from the reduction in the war on drugs, thanks to state* grassroot efforts but we're not going to credit where credit is due."
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Kineth
02/13/2018
03:43 PM
#41
scorpion41 posted...
Kineth posted...
scorpion41 posted...
More white people are killed by police than black people every year and the justice system is just as lenient...why is it more important to recognize the killing of black people?


Ah suddenly you have no idea what per capita stats are.


So youll admit Im right and have to resort to there are more white people so... arguments.


Yes, I don't have to resort to the right answer because that's how fucking statistical analysis works. No one was ever saying that white people don't have bad run-ins with cops, but per capita numbers have always been the point in these arguments. Just because you don't want to acknowledge the truth doesn't mean the truth isn't valid.
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Taharqa_
02/13/2018
03:45 PM
#42
Kineth posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Kineth posted...
scorpion41 posted...
More white people are killed by police than black people every year and the justice system is just as lenient...why is it more important to recognize the killing of black people?


Ah suddenly you have no idea what per capita stats are.


So youll admit Im right and have to resort to there are more white people so... arguments.


Yes, I don't have to resort to the right answer because that's how fucking statistical analysis works. No one was ever saying that white people don't have bad run-ins with cops, but per capita numbers have always been the point in these arguments. Just because you don't want to acknowledge the truth doesn't mean the truth isn't valid.


But they love per capita numbers when they want to bring up black crime statistics.
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DarkChozoGhost
02/13/2018
03:45 PM
#43
The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean

Black Lives Matter = Black Lives Matter (too)
Blue Lives Matter = (only) Blue Lives Matter
All Lives Matter = All Lives Matter (but black lives less so)
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ledbowman
02/13/2018
03:48 PM
#44
DarkChozoGhost posted...
The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean

Black Lives Matter = Black Lives Matter (too)
Blue Lives Matter = (only) Blue Lives Matter
All Lives Matter = All Lives Matter (but black lives less so)

Racism is bad so let's be racist against white people.
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DifferentialEquation
02/13/2018
03:50 PM
#45
Kineth posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Kineth posted...
scorpion41 posted...
More white people are killed by police than black people every year and the justice system is just as lenient...why is it more important to recognize the killing of black people?


Ah suddenly you have no idea what per capita stats are.


So youll admit Im right and have to resort to there are more white people so... arguments.


Yes, I don't have to resort to the right answer because that's how fucking statistical analysis works. No one was ever saying that white people don't have bad run-ins with cops, but per capita numbers have always been the point in these arguments. Just because you don't want to acknowledge the truth doesn't mean the truth isn't valid.


Why does the left switch back and forth between per capita and raw numbers whenever it's convenient? When talking about welfare recipients, the left uses the fact that white people make up the largest group of recipients (without looking at per capita data) as a way to disparage them. They also do the same thing with mass shootings to try to portray white people as an undesirable element of society. But then, when talking about police shootings, raw number no longer matter and it's only per capita numbers that they look at.
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r4X0r
02/13/2018
03:50 PM
#46
ledbowman posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean

Black Lives Matter = Black Lives Matter (too)
Blue Lives Matter = (only) Blue Lives Matter
All Lives Matter = All Lives Matter (but black lives less so)

Racism is bad so let's be racist against white people.


Racism against white people isn't racism, because treating a group of people differently based on the color of the skin isn't racism... when convenient.

Consistency has never been a big priority for the left.
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DarkChozoGhost
02/13/2018
03:50 PM
#47
ledbowman posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
The left column is what people say, the right column is what they actually mean

Black Lives Matter = Black Lives Matter (too)
Blue Lives Matter = (only) Blue Lives Matter
All Lives Matter = All Lives Matter (but black lives less so)

Racism is bad so let's be racist against white people.

What did I post that's being racist against white people?
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r4X0r
02/13/2018
03:51 PM
#48
DifferentialEquation posted...
Why does the left switch back and forth between per capita and raw numbers whenever it's convenient?


Because they're dishonest and their views do not stand up to factual scrutiny. That's all there is to it.
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DarkChozoGhost
02/13/2018
03:52 PM
#49
DifferentialEquation posted...
They also do the same thing with mass shootings

White people commit more mass shootings total AND per capita
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Waluigi7
02/13/2018
03:53 PM
#50
DarkChozoGhost posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
They also do the same thing with mass shootings

White people commit more mass shootings total AND per capita

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