Nah, everyone should have a right to defend themselves.
I don't own any myself but I can definitely understand the appeal.
I'm German but I don't think guns should be completely banned. They aren't here either...shooting is a sport after all, and hunters need guns too.
I just don't think you should be able to walk into a walmart and walk out with a gun. It just needs to be expensive and hard as hell to get one. Like most permits for things are. if you consider yourself a responsible gun owner, you should have to prove it.
I'm German but I don't think guns should be completely banned. They aren't here either...shooting is a sport after all, and hunters need guns too.
I just don't think you should be able to walk into a walmart and walk out with a gun. It just needs to be expensive and hard as hell to get one. Like most permits for things are. if you consider yourself a responsible gun owner, you should have to prove it.
I just don't think you should be able to walk into a walmart and walk out with a gun. It just needs to be expensive and hard as hell to get one.
Is it hard to buy a gun in Germany? and what kind of guns are available to you?
making things arbitrarily expensive is classism
Why would you make a gun artificially expensive?
It's impossible to ban guns in America and I'm sure most politicians who want to ban them know that. Which is why it hasn't happened and won't happen.
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
What are your thoughts on mace, knives, swords, stun-guns, etc (non-lethal weapons)
creativerealms posted...
It's impossible to ban guns in America and I'm sure most politicians who want to ban them know that. Which is why it hasn't happened and won't happen.
They said it was impossible to go the moon.
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm
Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States
So excuse me for not giving the slightest FUCK about the 10k or so firearm homicides.
What are your thoughts on mace, knives, swords, stun-guns, etc (non-lethal weapons)
Knifes and swords I wouldn't consider non-lethal but about non-lethal weapons in particular, I wouldn't expect them to be as effective as a deterrent but also consider that the aggressor could have a gun even if they're illegal, and here you are with a can of mace.
I don't really know a lot about it but I wouldn't guess a handgun or civil semi-auto rifle had much disadvantage against an illegally-obtained fully-automatic rifle if it's just you and the aggressor. At least not ad much so as a knife.
I don't have any weapons, actually. I do have this one giant knife I got as a gift once but it's more of a hunting knife I think, and I can't tell you where it is in my house. Probably the closet.
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm
Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States
So excuse me for not giving the slightest FUCK about the 10k or so firearm homicides.
there's a difference between banning guns and banning drugs. last i checked, you cant just grow your own guns
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm
Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States
So excuse me for not giving the slightest FUCK about the 10k or so firearm homicides.
there's a difference between banning guns and banning drugs. last i checked, you cant just grow your own guns
gbpxl posted...
creativerealms posted...
It's impossible to ban guns in America and I'm sure most politicians who want to ban them know that. Which is why it hasn't happened and won't happen.
They said it was impossible to go the moon.
There is no law in the constitution saying we could never go to the moon. Also there were not armed militia groups and half the government threatening revolt if we ever tried to go to the moon. So its a different type of impossible.
Do you realize how many lives would be lost if the US government tried to take away guns? It would be a bloody war.
I mean... I could make a makeshift gun with some pvc pipe, a mousetrap, and a nail. Technically dont even need the mousetrap...
AlternativeFAQS posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm
Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States
So excuse me for not giving the slightest FUCK about the 10k or so firearm homicides.
there's a difference between banning guns and banning drugs. last i checked, you cant just grow your own guns
check again, 3D printed guns are taking off now.
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
Cigarettes are different. When a cigarette kills, it only kills the person who bought the cigarette. When a gun kills, it kills everyone around the person who bought the gun.
Cigarettes are different. When a cigarette kills, it only kills the person who bought the cigarette. When a gun kills, it kills everyone around the person who bought the gun.
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
Cigarettes are different. When a cigarette kills, it only kills the person who bought the cigarette. When a gun kills, it kills everyone around the person who bought the gun.
gbpxl posted...thanks for this post, you basically said it better than I could have
AlternativeFAQS posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm
Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States
So excuse me for not giving the slightest FUCK about the 10k or so firearm homicides.
there's a difference between banning guns and banning drugs. last i checked, you cant just grow your own guns
check again, 3D printed guns are taking off now.
never seen anyone walk into a school or a movie theater and kill people with a pack of cigs.
never seen a guy shoot a bunch of people at a concert out of his hotel window with a cigarette.
never seen a toddler blow off his sisters head with a cig
never seen a depressed dude take his own life when he had a bad moment with a pack of marlboros.
never seen cops shoot someone cause they thought he had a cigarette in his hand
gbpxl posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
Cigarettes are different. When a cigarette kills, it only kills the person who bought the cigarette. When a gun kills, it kills everyone around the person who bought the gun.
Wow. So much fail.
Like, do you not know what second-hand smoke does? Just as lethal as actually smoking.
And if buying a gun is so deadly, gangbangers wouldn't exist.
Cigarettes are different. When a cigarette kills, it only kills the person who bought the cigarette. When a gun kills, it kills everyone around the person who bought the gun.
Not true. Second-hand smoke results in about 40k deaths per year and more than half of gun deaths are suicides, according to these articles:
http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects-of-secondhand-smoke.html
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/upshot/gun-deaths-are-mostly-suicides.html
darkjedilink posted...
gbpxl posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
Cigarettes are different. When a cigarette kills, it only kills the person who bought the cigarette. When a gun kills, it kills everyone around the person who bought the gun.
Wow. So much fail.
Like, do you not know what second-hand smoke does? Just as lethal as actually smoking.
And if buying a gun is so deadly, gangbangers wouldn't exist.
second smoke is less deadly than a mass shooting... I can't believe I even have to say that LOL...
Where do you draw the line on what kind of weapons someone can own? Semi-automatic assault rifle?
Fully auto machine guns? Gatling gun? Nuclear missile launcher?
gbpxl posted...
second smoke is less deadly than a mass shooting... I can't believe I even have to say that LOL...
Why are mass shootings the main argument against guns when they make up but a fraction of overall gun deaths?
And going by numbers, second hand smoke kills more than guns overall.
gbpxl posted...
darkjedilink posted...
gbpxl posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Firearms kill less people than smoking cigarettes. Cigarettes provide less benefit to society than firearms.
If you can't justify a cigarette ban, which would be a prohibition that would actually work. Stay the fuck off my guns.
Cigarettes are different. When a cigarette kills, it only kills the person who bought the cigarette. When a gun kills, it kills everyone around the person who bought the gun.
Wow. So much fail.
Like, do you not know what second-hand smoke does? Just as lethal as actually smoking.
And if buying a gun is so deadly, gangbangers wouldn't exist.
second smoke is less deadly than a mass shooting... I can't believe I even have to say that LOL...
Not according to all actual data.
gbpxl posted...
second smoke is less deadly than a mass shooting... I can't believe I even have to say that LOL...
Why are mass shootings the main argument against guns when they make up but a fraction of overall gun deaths?
And going by numbers, second hand smoke kills more than guns overall.
No, because that would be unbelievably fucking stupid and dangerous.
Cigarettes are different.
When a gun kills, it kills everyone around the person who bought the gun.
gbpxl posted...
If second hand smoke is more deadly than guns, why is it that people who try to kill others are choosing to do so with guns over cigarettes?
Why did you ignore my first part?
And...why are you being purposfully dense?