Are viruses alive?

01/17/2018 01:41:10 AM

01/17/2018

01:41 AM

Not by the scientific definition of life.

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P4wn4g3

01/17/2018 01:43:40 AM

01/17/2018

01:43 AM

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Not by the scientific definition of life.

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chill02

01/17/2018 01:47:45 AM

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01:47 AM

#10

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armandro

01/17/2018 01:51:19 AM

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01:51 AM

#11

chill02 posted...

@leverageblargh

why are you tagging him
dont tag him

leave him alone

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01/17/2018 01:53:47 AM

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01:53 AM

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Ex-Kefiroth posted...

Ultimately, life is just a quality we arbitrarily assign to matter that behaves in a particular complex way.

No. The word has a definition, and there's a distinct criteria.

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Anisoptera

01/17/2018 01:53:50 AM

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01:53 AM

#14

Yes. How can a disinfectant claim to kill viruses if viruses aren't living things?

Anisoptera

01/17/2018 01:54:53 AM

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01:54 AM

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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Ex-Kefiroth posted...

Ultimately, life is just a quality we arbitrarily assign to matter that behaves in a particular complex way.

No. The word has a definition, and there's a distinct criteria.

Plants were once considered non-living things. Maybe in the future when science gets better we have a more defined definition of life.

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P4wn4g3

01/17/2018 01:57:29 AM

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#17

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Ex-Kefiroth posted...

Ultimately, life is just a quality we arbitrarily assign to matter that behaves in a particular complex way.

No. The word has a definition, and there's a distinct criteria.

It isn't all that distinct, but that's aside from his post. The concept of life is a bit too complicated for life to clearly define with present tools and knowledge, so the definition is lacking.

But it does exclude viruses outright.

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01/17/2018 01:59:38 AM

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01:59 AM

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Ex-Kefiroth posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Ex-Kefiroth posted...

Ultimately, life is just a quality we arbitrarily assign to matter that behaves in a particular complex way.

No. The word has a definition, and there's a distinct criteria.

And the criteria is arbitrary.

In the same way that traffic laws are arbitrary, that country borders are arbitrary, and that the number of innings in a baseball game is arbitrary, sure.

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Solar_Crimson

01/17/2018 04:08:42 PM

01/17/2018

04:08 PM

#19

Viruses are probably some of the strangest entities on this planet.

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01/17/2018 04:14:27 PM

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#20

No of course not. You cant talk to them, have sex with them or worship their feet.

I love beautiful women.

Solar_Crimson

01/17/2018 04:18:48 PM

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DeanAuryn posted...

No of course not. You cant talk to them, have sex with them or worship their feet.

Imagine this thing anthromorphized as a cute anime girl:

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01/17/2018 04:25:16 PM

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04:25 PM

#22

Solar_Crimson posted...

DeanAuryn posted...

No of course not. You cant talk to them, have sex with them or worship their feet.

Imagine this thing anthromorphized as a cute anime girl:

Not interested in anime. The last time I told someone who is into anime and waifus to fuck off and get a life I got modded. So I wont say that to you.

I love beautiful women.

Solar_Crimson

01/17/2018 04:28:10 PM

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04:28 PM

#23

DeanAuryn posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

DeanAuryn posted...

No of course not. You cant talk to them, have sex with them or worship their feet.

Imagine this thing anthromorphized as a cute anime girl:

Not interested in anime. The last time I told someone who is into anime and waifus to fuck off and get a life I got modded. So I wont say that to you.

Well fine. Imagine that thing as a feminine humanoid.

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dollarflashsale

01/17/2018 04:28:11 PM

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#24

DeanAuryn posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

DeanAuryn posted...

No of course not. You cant talk to them, have sex with them or worship their feet.

Imagine this thing anthromorphized as a cute anime girl:

Not interested in anime. The last time I told someone who is into anime and waifus to fuck off and get a life I got modded. So I wont say that to you.

hey.... leave solar crimson alone big bully fuck off and get a life.

01/17/2018 04:30:54 PM

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04:30 PM

#25

dollarflashsale posted...

DeanAuryn posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

DeanAuryn posted...

No of course not. You cant talk to them, have sex with them or worship their feet.

Imagine this thing anthromorphized as a cute anime girl:

Not interested in anime. The last time I told someone who is into anime and waifus to fuck off and get a life I got modded. So I wont say that to you.

hey.... leave solar crimson alone big bully fuck off and get a life.

But...but...I said I wont say anything to him.

~~I have nothing against Solar_Crimson, just anime~~

I love beautiful women.

01/17/2018 04:31:37 PM

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04:31 PM

#26

Solar_Crimson posted...

DeanAuryn posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

DeanAuryn posted...

No of course not. You cant talk to them, have sex with them or worship their feet.

Imagine this thing anthromorphized as a cute anime girl:

Not interested in anime. The last time I told someone who is into anime and waifus to fuck off and get a life I got modded. So I wont say that to you.

Well fine. Imagine that thing as a feminine humanoid.

Im having trouble visualising her feet.

I love beautiful women.

DuneMan

01/17/2018 04:46:46 PM

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04:46 PM

#27

Anisoptera posted...

Yes. How can a disinfectant claim to kill viruses if viruses aren't living things?

Because bleach has a corrosive effect that peels apart their protein shells at the atomic level.

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01/18/2018 12:53:34 AM

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12:53 AM

#28

Solar_Crimson posted...

DeanAuryn posted...

No of course not. You cant talk to them, have sex with them or worship their feet.

Imagine this thing anthromorphized as a cute anime girl:

I've been searching for a while now. Why the hell hasn't anyone made any virus anime girls!?

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Doe

01/18/2018 12:55:20 AM

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12:55 AM

#29

I want to fucking vomit when I see those artists depictions of spider viruses and flying tampons

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Zack_Attackv1

01/18/2018 12:55:29 AM

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12:55 AM

#30

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voldothegr8

01/18/2018 12:59:32 AM

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12:59 AM

#31

https://www.popsci.com/new-evidence-that-viruses-are-alive

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ThePrinceFish

01/18/2018 01:05:38 AM

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01:05 AM

#32

DesuDeku posted...

I've been searching for a while now. Why the hell hasn't anyone made any virus anime girls!?

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01/18/2018 01:21:17 AM

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01:21 AM

#33

ThePrinceFish posted...

DesuDeku posted...

I've been searching for a while now. Why the hell hasn't anyone made any virus anime girls!?

What virus is she?

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ThePrinceFish

01/18/2018 01:22:05 AM

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01:22 AM

#34

DesuDeku posted...

What virus is she?

Ebola

She originated during the outbreaks in Africa.

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01/18/2018 01:35:31 AM

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01:35 AM

#35

ThePrinceFish posted...

DesuDeku posted...

What virus is she?

Ebola

She originated during the outbreaks in Africa.

I'd probably give her a bag of Doritos if she were real.

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ThePrinceFish

01/18/2018 01:36:20 AM

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01:36 AM

#36

DesuDeku posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

DesuDeku posted...

What virus is she?

Ebola

She originated during the outbreaks in Africa.

I'd probably give her a bag of Doritos if she were real.

She'd likely thank you by making you bleed from every hole in your body

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01/18/2018 01:38:03 AM

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01:38 AM

#37

ThePrinceFish posted...

DesuDeku posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

DesuDeku posted...

What virus is she?

Ebola

She originated during the outbreaks in Africa.

I'd probably give her a bag of Doritos if she were real.

She'd likely thank you by making you bleed from every hole in your body

Who said I was gonna touch her? I'm not a lolicon.

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kingdrake2

01/18/2018 10:58:57 AM

01/18/2018

10:58 AM

#38

ThePrinceFish posted...

DesuDeku posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

DesuDeku posted...

What virus is she?

Ebola

She originated during the outbreaks in Africa.

I'd probably give her a bag of Doritos if she were real.

She'd likely thank you by making you bleed from every hole in your body

i don't want that :(.

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01/18/2018 06:03:17 PM

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06:03 PM

#39

So yeah. Get fucked. They're not alive

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01/18/2018 06:05:04 PM

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06:05 PM

#40

Something that has genetic information and reproduces as its own autonomous being is life in my eyes.

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Mikablu

01/18/2018 06:06:53 PM

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06:06 PM

#41

Viruses do not meet the generally-accepted-by-the-scientific-community criteria to be "alive".

Frostshock

01/18/2018 06:08:26 PM

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06:08 PM

#42

weapon_d00d816 posted...

reproduces as its own autonomous being

Viruses do not do that.

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01/18/2018 06:09:39 PM

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06:09 PM

#43

Frostshock posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

reproduces as its own autonomous being

Viruses do not do that.

They are not organelles or part of a multicellular organism is what I mean

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MonsterZed

01/18/2018 06:33:24 PM

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06:33 PM

#44

weapon_d00d816 posted...

Frostshock posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

reproduces as its own autonomous being

Viruses do not do that.

They are not organelles or part of a multicellular organism is what I mean

Uhhhh

01/18/2018 06:44:06 PM

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06:44 PM

#45

MonsterZed posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

Frostshock posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

reproduces as its own autonomous being

Viruses do not do that.

They are not organelles or part of a multicellular organism is what I mean

Uhhhh

I don't understand your confusion.

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01/18/2018 06:55:00 PM

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#46

weapon_d00d816 posted...

MonsterZed posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

Frostshock posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

reproduces as its own autonomous being

Viruses do not do that.

They are not organelles or part of a multicellular organism is what I mean

Uhhhh

I don't understand your confusion.

You said that a virus "reproduces as its own autonomous being." He pointed out that viruses do not do this. Then you said "They are not organelles or part of a multicellular organism is what I mean," as if to clarify your original statement. But that's an entirely different, unrelated comment

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Soviet_Poland

01/18/2018 06:56:39 PM

01/18/2018

06:56 PM

#47

Viruses are just copy/paste in chemistry format. It's a strand of DNA or RNA that encodes the "blueprint" to make more copies of itself (which will just beget more copies of themselves).

They are made up of the same "building blocks" of living organisms, that's why our cells when infected with a virus just see the RNA and transcribe/translate the sequence as if it was your own body that produced the RNA. But instead of being the RNA to some necessary component the cell needs like a hormone or protein, it's literally just a copy of the sequence that encodes a copy of itself. So the cell creates tons of copies of the virion, then they burst out and infect other cells. It's a self-propagating "glitch" until the immune system gets rid of the process.

Viruses don't have metabolisms. It's literally just the RNA or DNA covered in a protein capsule. So while some of their "behavior" seems to mimic what life is about, it's kind of an "empty shell" of a particular quirk of life. It just so happens that this process can interfere with healthy functioning of cells.

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Nostradumbass

01/18/2018 06:59:28 PM

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06:59 PM

#48

theres a type of cancer that goes dormant to trick the chemo into thinking its gone then reactivates once its out of the system and no longer a threat.

its not only alive, its intelligent.

01/18/2018 07:00:41 PM

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07:00 PM

#49

DarkChozoGhost posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

MonsterZed posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

Frostshock posted...

weapon_d00d816 posted...

reproduces as its own autonomous being

Viruses do not do that.

They are not organelles or part of a multicellular organism is what I mean

Uhhhh

I don't understand your confusion.

You said that a virus "reproduces as its own autonomous being." He pointed out that viruses do not do this. Then you said "They are not organelles or part of a multicellular organism is what I mean," as if to clarify your original statement. But that's an entirely different, unrelated comment

How is that not an autonomous being? You still aren't making sense.

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