Would you sit during the national anthem if you were an athlete?

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I would.
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Yes, even if I didn't actually want to protest I'd do it to piss off all the conservative ass-cranks.
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nah because i'm not a shithead
I wouldn't, but I also wouldn't care if others did.

It's their choice to do so.
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I don't really get the appeal.

Are they still just butthurt Trump won or what
DevsBro posted...
I don't really get the appeal.

Are they still just butthurt Trump won or what

They're protesting black people being killed by police. Either way, it solves nothing, after all how many people did hashtagbringbackourgirls save? protesting is nothing but a way for citizens to feel like they're doing something and getting good boy points doing it without having to expend any real effort.
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tremain07 posted...
DevsBro posted...
I don't really get the appeal.

Are they still just butthurt Trump won or what

They're protesting black people being killed by police. Either way, it solves nothing, after all how many people did hashtagbringbackourgirls save? protesting is nothing but a way for citizens to feel like they're doing something and getting good boy points doing it without having to expend any real effort.


Were the blacks killed by flagpoles or something?
tremain07 posted...
DevsBro posted...
I don't really get the appeal.

Are they still just butthurt Trump won or what

They're protesting black people being killed by police. Either way, it solves nothing, after all how many people did hashtagbringbackourgirls save? protesting is nothing but a way for citizens to feel like they're doing something and getting good boy points doing it without having to expend any real effort.

Considering how much awareness it's been raising, ain't gonna call it nothing
I wouldn't have until Trump opened his idiot mouth about it. Now I would kneel to protest his attacks against free speech.
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The issue is that we're supposed to be standing for a flag that represents a united country that treats each other equally. The flag doesn't just represent the army, but the actual people of the US. If people don't feel like they are treated equally, why should they stand and pledge to the table cloth?
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Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport and setting my family up for life? Why on earth would I sit for that.
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No i wouldn't. Why would i? I love America.
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I would take the opportunity to show respect and appreciation for the country I live in, and for the people who have fought and are fighting for the freedoms I've enjoyed.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport and setting my family up for life? Why on earth would I sit for that.

Why do people keep using this dumb reasoning?
I already sit for that shit song.
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Absolutely not. You're getting paid millions and minorities died for your freedom. Protest on your own time and not during my r&r. Alejandro Villanueva is a god damn hero for what he did today
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JimmyJumper6 posted...
nah because i'm not a shithead

You might want a second opinion, pal.
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Twin3Turbo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport and setting my family up for life? Why on earth would I sit for that.

Why do people keep using this dumb reasoning?

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Normally I'd stand but with all the hatred and bigotry coming from that clown in chief, I'd take a knee.
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EnragedSlith posted...
Considering how much awareness it's been raising, ain't gonna call it nothing

Raising awareness doesn't translate into police being held accountable. It's a "feel-good" protest, nothing more.
yea bro i would sit all the time
GhostOfTrayvon posted...
EnragedSlith posted...
Considering how much awareness it's been raising, ain't gonna call it nothing

Raising awareness doesn't translate into police being held accountable. It's a "feel-good" protest, nothing more.

Keep in mind that in order for anything to be done about a problem, awareness has to be made in the first place. No one is going to fix a problem that they aren't aware of.
There's awareness and guess what,people don't care.
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport

Please provide proof these people are being paid by a piece of cloth.
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Twin3Turbo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport and setting my family up for life? Why on earth would I sit for that.

Why do people keep using this dumb reasoning?

Maybe they'll stop if you can name one other country that allows people from the ghetto to go to college for free regardless of academic ability, then go on to become a multi-millionaire fresh out of college just by playing a game 22 times a year AT MOST.
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tremain07 posted...
There's awareness and guess what,people don't care.

Because they see through it. When people like Michael Brown, Alton Sterling, and Freddie Gray are the posterboys for the 'anti-police-brutality' movement, people know that you're full of shit.
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darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport and setting my family up for life? Why on earth would I sit for that.

Why do people keep using this dumb reasoning?

Maybe they'll stop if you can name one other country that allows people from the ghetto to go to college for free regardless of academic ability, then go on to become a multi-millionaire fresh out of college just by playing a game 22 times a year AT MOST.

Are you shitting on good ol' American capitalism here? Colleges make good money from their top sports. They get the best players they can find to play for them so their team will win and have more support. The good players then get signed to professional teams so they can do the same. Those players then spend their money and it funds whatever businesses they buy from.
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KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport and setting my family up for life? Why on earth would I sit for that.

Why do people keep using this dumb reasoning?

Maybe they'll stop if you can name one other country that allows people from the ghetto to go to college for free regardless of academic ability, then go on to become a multi-millionaire fresh out of college just by playing a game 22 times a year AT MOST.

Are you shitting on good ol' American capitalism here? Colleges make good money from their top sports. They get the best players they can find to play for them so their team will win and have more support. The good players then get signed to professional teams so they can do the same. Those players then spend their money and it funds whatever businesses they buy from.

How was I shitting on anything? I pointed out that rich football players protesting 'police brutality' by saying America mistreats them is laughable considering they literally only have the job they have because they live in America.
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LinksLiege posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport

Please provide proof these people are being paid by a piece of cloth.

How much does Mexico pay their American football players? China? Japan? All of Europe?
darkjedilink posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport and setting my family up for life? Why on earth would I sit for that.

Why do people keep using this dumb reasoning?

Maybe they'll stop if you can name one other country that allows people from the ghetto to go to college for free regardless of academic ability, then go on to become a multi-millionaire fresh out of college just by playing a game 22 times a year AT MOST.

Are you shitting on good ol' American capitalism here? Colleges make good money from their top sports. They get the best players they can find to play for them so their team will win and have more support. The good players then get signed to professional teams so they can do the same. Those players then spend their money and it funds whatever businesses they buy from.

How was I shitting on anything? I pointed out that rich football players protesting 'police brutality' by saying America mistreats them is laughable considering they literally only have the job they have because they live in America.

Yeah most people do. That's why they ask you if you are a citizen or permanent resident on the applications. They have their job because they showed enough athletic talent to be signed to a professional team.
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darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport and setting my family up for life? Why on earth would I sit for that.

Why do people keep using this dumb reasoning?

Maybe they'll stop if you can name one other country that allows people from the ghetto to go to college for free regardless of academic ability, then go on to become a multi-millionaire fresh out of college just by playing a game 22 times a year AT MOST.

Yeah, it's dumb reasoning.
No.

It's a dumb protest. I prefer to protest specific policies, politicians, and so forth. Protesting the anthem/flag is too close to me to protesting America as an idea. It seems a bit petulant, petty, and childlike. I love America, obvious it has flaws (and that's an understatement) but I'm not going to take a dump on the flag because waahhh I lost an election or some criminal got shot.
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Yes, even if I didn't actually want to protest I'd do it to piss off all the conservative ass-cranks.

yeah, this. and I wouldn't until it became trendy and then I'd do it just to show that I support the notion of protest in general.
It's a dumb protest. I prefer to protest specific policies, politicians, and so forth. Protesting the anthem/flag is too close to me to protesting America as an idea.

It seems you don't have any idea why they're protesting.

They aren't protesting the anthem/flag. Every single one of those athletes love America. They are protesting during the singing of the national anthem to use their platform as sports figures to help stir a conversation about social injustice and racial equality. If you think that's a dumb protest, then I feel sorry for you.
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I would do the same thing I do now. Stand with my hand over my heart.
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Asherlee10 posted...
Why is it so important whether someone sits or stands?

It shows how uneducated and ignorant this group of players are. I'd like it if my fellow Americans would educate themselves and if they want to protest do so in a meaningful way.
Why is it so important whether someone sits or stands?

Refusing to pay respect to the national symbol is a pretty bold statement.
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Asherlee10 posted...
What makes someone uneducated or ignorant if they choose to do a specific action while the National Anthem is played?

In the same way that thinking kneeling will make imaginary police brutality vanish.
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KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport and setting my family up for life? Why on earth would I sit for that.

Why do people keep using this dumb reasoning?

Maybe they'll stop if you can name one other country that allows people from the ghetto to go to college for free regardless of academic ability, then go on to become a multi-millionaire fresh out of college just by playing a game 22 times a year AT MOST.

Are you shitting on good ol' American capitalism here? Colleges make good money from their top sports. They get the best players they can find to play for them so their team will win and have more support. The good players then get signed to professional teams so they can do the same. Those players then spend their money and it funds whatever businesses they buy from.

How was I shitting on anything? I pointed out that rich football players protesting 'police brutality' by saying America mistreats them is laughable considering they literally only have the job they have because they live in America.

Yeah most people do. That's why they ask you if you are a citizen or permanent resident on the applications. They have their job because they showed enough athletic talent to be signed to a professional team.

Smh

That talent wouldn't get them a paycheck in any other country.
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TheBiggerWiggle posted...
I wouldn't have until Trump opened his idiot mouth about it. Now I would kneel to protest his attacks against free speech.
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I would kneel starting this week. Originally I wouldn't have and I don't even really agree with the protest, certainly not enough to not stand for my country.

That said Trump's comments would have me taking a knee and giving a post game press conference about how I couldn't stand as my country elected a monkey into office.
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darkjedilink posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KStateKing17 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Sit for a flag that’s paying me millions of dollars for playing a sport and setting my family up for life? Why on earth would I sit for that.

Why do people keep using this dumb reasoning?

Maybe they'll stop if you can name one other country that allows people from the ghetto to go to college for free regardless of academic ability, then go on to become a multi-millionaire fresh out of college just by playing a game 22 times a year AT MOST.

Are you shitting on good ol' American capitalism here? Colleges make good money from their top sports. They get the best players they can find to play for them so their team will win and have more support. The good players then get signed to professional teams so they can do the same. Those players then spend their money and it funds whatever businesses they buy from.

How was I shitting on anything? I pointed out that rich football players protesting 'police brutality' by saying America mistreats them is laughable considering they literally only have the job they have because they live in America.

Yeah most people do. That's why they ask you if you are a citizen or permanent resident on the applications. They have their job because they showed enough athletic talent to be signed to a professional team.

Smh

That talent wouldn't get them a paycheck in any other country.

....yes it would.

Maybe not specifically in American Football but why are you limiting athletic talent to that sport to make your (stupid) point?
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