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RedZaraki
09/05/2017
11:56 AM
#1
Would you THEN call the transgender person by their new gender?



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PMarth2002
09/05/2017
12:08 PM
#3
I already do.

Err, I would if I actually knew a TG person that I had regular contact with. The only one I've met was my sister's ex (FTM).
And as her clothes all tumbled 'round her, I could hear my heart
The moonlight shown upon her as she lay back in my bed
Mist_Turnips
09/05/2017
12:09 PM
#4
No
"They say if you don't hide your belly button, lightning could take it away from you! What would happen if it did?"
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Offworlder1
09/05/2017
12:09 PM
#5
I am so tired of the transgender politics, if you change from male to female, or female to male so people will never accept that you were not born as the gender you changed to. Some people are just bigots or just want a natural woman/man who was born that way and stayed that way.
"Always two there are, a master and an apprentice"
Eevee-Trainer
09/05/2017
12:09 PM
#6
Zurkon posted...
I already do and I hope we reach that point some day.
Maybe I'll put something here one day.
gatorsPENSbucs
09/05/2017
12:13 PM
#7
Nah
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The_Donald
09/05/2017
12:19 PM
#9
You are the sex that you're born with. XX or XY.
"Show me someone without an ego, and I'll show you a loser."
GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
12:20 PM
#10
The_Donald posted...
You are the sex that you're born with. XX or XY.
RedZaraki
09/05/2017
12:33 PM
#11
And some of you are bigots that history will correct decades from now. It's happened with so many other things already. It's just sad that some people can't accept things they don't understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6xlumGoB3A
RuthlessBadger
09/05/2017
12:34 PM
#12
We understand that you're born XX or XY
I am ManWithGun/ToonLink
Offworlder1
09/05/2017
12:43 PM
#13
@RedZaraki

Transgenders and people who hate them or feel uncomfortable around them need to leave each other alone and stop trying to force each other's beliefs onto the other.

Like I said before a "live and let live" policy is needed, not everyone wants a transgender friend or partner, but by the same token transgenders should NOT be attacked, targeted or harrassed.

We need to stop fight and co exist peacefully, both sides.
"Always two there are, a master and an apprentice"
I Like Toast
09/05/2017
12:43 PM
#14
You are what you're born with. I'm going to call you what you look like, because it doesn't matter. I'm not going to offend 99% of people to avoid potentially offending 1%.
Anyone who refuses to call a transgender by their new gender aren't justifying it by if they can make babies or not. And if we reach the point where science can create allow a man to get pregnant there will be much more complicated issues than gender identification
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all
RedZaraki
09/05/2017
12:44 PM
#15
In the future you could meet and date women, and have children with them and never once know the gender they were actually born with.

Does that matter to you?

If someone dies their hair, does their genetic hair color matter to you?

No, it really doesn't.

What about if they surgically changed their scalp to produce a different hair color, without dye?

What is their hair color then?

This is a philosophical discussion of form, and you're being pedantic in a scenario where there's no evidence remaining of the old form.


And you aren't doing it from an intellectual angle, you're doing it because you purposefully intend to upset other people that make you uncomfortable.


If that isn't bigoted, then what is?
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Offworlder1
09/05/2017
12:50 PM
#16
@RedZaraki

That is your belief, not everyone shares it, I personally chose to be with women who were born that way but it is my preference. I also don't hate or care if a person is transgender, to me they are just another person living their life trying to pursue their goal in life.

One person I know from highschool is transgender, went from male to female and I am still her friend cause she's a good person.
"Always two there are, a master and an apprentice"
RuthlessBadger
09/05/2017
12:52 PM
#17
Seems these days you have to agree with everything or else you're a bigot, so I'll be a bigot. Tag appropriately.
I am ManWithGun/ToonLink
Ricemills
09/05/2017
01:03 PM
#18
not only i will call them respectively, i might become one of them.
You have the right to remain silent, anything you post will be misquoted, then used against you.
DoomSwell
09/05/2017
01:11 PM
#19
I expected more B votes, I didn't know there were that many C voters here.
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ThyCorndog
09/05/2017
01:13 PM
#20
DoomSwell posted...
I expected more B votes, I didn't know there were that many C voters here.

why do you think transgender topics always turn the way they do on here? ce is pretty split on it
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gatorsPENSbucs
09/05/2017
01:36 PM
#21
RedZaraki posted...
If someone dies their hair, does their genetic hair color matter to you?

So you're comparing being transgendered to dying your hair? Yikes.
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Mist_Turnips
09/05/2017
02:24 PM
#22
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
RedZaraki posted...
If someone dies their hair, does their genetic hair color matter to you?

So you're comparing being transgendered to dying your hair? Yikes.

It's weird. They are only okay with these types of comparisons when they do it. But if someone they consider an enemy does it, suddenly it's a problem.
"They say if you don't hide your belly button, lightning could take it away from you! What would happen if it did?"
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GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
02:51 PM
#23
GunmaN1905 posted...
The_Donald posted...
You are the sex that you're born with. XX or XY.

You guys are extremely dense lol. If the operation was 100% perfect their chromosomes would later change to that too. So you're going to call a completely biological female a dude just because they were born one.
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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
02:55 PM
#24
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
The_Donald posted...
You are the sex that you're born with. XX or XY.

You guys are extremely dense lol. If the operation was 100% perfect their chromosomes would later change to that too. So you're going to call a completely biological female a dude just because they were born one.


Yes.
GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
02:58 PM
#25
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
The_Donald posted...
You are the sex that you're born with. XX or XY.

You guys are extremely dense lol. If the operation was 100% perfect their chromosomes would later change to that too. So you're going to call a completely biological female a dude just because they were born one.


Yes.

That's like saying if you were born blind and later it was fixed you're still blind. lol shut the fuck up you shitposter
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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
03:08 PM
#26
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
The_Donald posted...
You are the sex that you're born with. XX or XY.

You guys are extremely dense lol. If the operation was 100% perfect their chromosomes would later change to that too. So you're going to call a completely biological female a dude just because they were born one.


Yes.

That's like saying if you were born blind and later it was fixed you're still blind. lol shut the fuck up you shitposter


Was Michael Jackson white when he died?
Gender=your role in reproduction cycle.
GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
03:10 PM
#27
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
The_Donald posted...
You are the sex that you're born with. XX or XY.

You guys are extremely dense lol. If the operation was 100% perfect their chromosomes would later change to that too. So you're going to call a completely biological female a dude just because they were born one.


Yes.

That's like saying if you were born blind and later it was fixed you're still blind. lol shut the fuck up you shitposter


Was Michael Jackson white when he died?
Gender=your role in reproduction cycle.

Are you illiterate? This is an hypothetical complete change scenario. They WOULD be able to reproduce with this. This would be like upending a baby Michael Jackson's brain into a white body.
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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
03:15 PM
#28
GiftedACIII posted...
Are you illiterate? This is an hypothetical complete change scenario. They WOULD be able to reproduce with this. This would be like upending a baby Michael Jackson's brain into a white body.


But since we still ID people with finger prints, retina scan and dental records, then that wouldn't be him, would it?
emblem boy
09/05/2017
03:18 PM
#29
I'd most likely call them by which ever gender they most look alike.

If I'm incorrect in what they want to be called, they can just tell me and I'll call them what they want.

Seems like more of a hassle to intentionally mislabel someone who's already told you the information
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GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
03:20 PM
#30
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Are you illiterate? This is an hypothetical complete change scenario. They WOULD be able to reproduce with this. This would be like upending a baby Michael Jackson's brain into a white body.


But since we still ID people with finger prints, retina scan and dental records, then that wouldn't be him, would it?

So if someone burns off their finger prints and loses all their teeth they're not them anymore? Obviously they'd have to redo everything. Kind of like name and residency changes, unless you don't think people can change their name or where they live, though given how ignorant you are appearing that just may be.
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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
03:25 PM
#31
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Are you illiterate? This is an hypothetical complete change scenario. They WOULD be able to reproduce with this. This would be like upending a baby Michael Jackson's brain into a white body.


But since we still ID people with finger prints, retina scan and dental records, then that wouldn't be him, would it?

So if someone burns off their finger prints and loses all their teeth they're not them anymore? Obviously they'd have to redo everything. Kind of like name and residency changes, unless you don't think people can change their name or where they live, though given how ignorant you are appearing that just may be.


Idk why're you getting upset over something as trivial as this, I'm just saying how things are.
GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
03:29 PM
#32
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Are you illiterate? This is an hypothetical complete change scenario. They WOULD be able to reproduce with this. This would be like upending a baby Michael Jackson's brain into a white body.


But since we still ID people with finger prints, retina scan and dental records, then that wouldn't be him, would it?

So if someone burns off their finger prints and loses all their teeth they're not them anymore? Obviously they'd have to redo everything. Kind of like name and residency changes, unless you don't think people can change their name or where they live, though given how ignorant you are appearing that just may be.


Idk why're you getting upset over something as trivial as this, I'm just saying how things are.

What makes you think I'm upset? I'm just laying out facts.
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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
03:33 PM
#33
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Are you illiterate? This is an hypothetical complete change scenario. They WOULD be able to reproduce with this. This would be like upending a baby Michael Jackson's brain into a white body.


But since we still ID people with finger prints, retina scan and dental records, then that wouldn't be him, would it?

So if someone burns off their finger prints and loses all their teeth they're not them anymore? Obviously they'd have to redo everything. Kind of like name and residency changes, unless you don't think people can change their name or where they live, though given how ignorant you are appearing that just may be.


Idk why're you getting upset over something as trivial as this, I'm just saying how things are.

What makes you think I'm upset? I'm just laying out facts.


Me too.
GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
03:38 PM
#34
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Are you illiterate? This is an hypothetical complete change scenario. They WOULD be able to reproduce with this. This would be like upending a baby Michael Jackson's brain into a white body.


But since we still ID people with finger prints, retina scan and dental records, then that wouldn't be him, would it?

So if someone burns off their finger prints and loses all their teeth they're not them anymore? Obviously they'd have to redo everything. Kind of like name and residency changes, unless you don't think people can change their name or where they live, though given how ignorant you are appearing that just may be.


Idk why're you getting upset over something as trivial as this, I'm just saying how things are.

What makes you think I'm upset? I'm just laying out facts.


I'm speaking ignorance and illiteracy.

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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
03:41 PM
#35
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
Are you illiterate? This is an hypothetical complete change scenario. They WOULD be able to reproduce with this. This would be like upending a baby Michael Jackson's brain into a white body.


But since we still ID people with finger prints, retina scan and dental records, then that wouldn't be him, would it?

So if someone burns off their finger prints and loses all their teeth they're not them anymore? Obviously they'd have to redo everything. Kind of like name and residency changes, unless you don't think people can change their name or where they live, though given how ignorant you are appearing that just may be.


Idk why're you getting upset over something as trivial as this, I'm just saying how things are.

What makes you think I'm upset? I'm just laying out facts.


I'm speaking ignorance and illiteracy.

Fixed


Fixing my post because your facts are wrong and you're getting upset isn't going to change anything.
But, whatever floats your boat.
GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
03:44 PM
#36
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...


But since we still ID people with finger prints, retina scan and dental records, then that wouldn't be him, would it?

So if someone burns off their finger prints and loses all their teeth they're not them anymore? Obviously they'd have to redo everything. Kind of like name and residency changes, unless you don't think people can change their name or where they live, though given how ignorant you are appearing that just may be.


Idk why're you getting upset over something as trivial as this, I'm just saying how things are.

What makes you think I'm upset? I'm just laying out facts.


I'm speaking ignorance and illiteracy.

Fixed


Fixing my post because your facts are wrong and you're getting upset isn't going to change anything.
But, whatever floats your boat.

Not my fault you're illiterate, dense and anti-reality. Those are facts. Literally going to call a completely biological woman a man just because they were born a man is as brain dead as calling someone who had eye surgery blind because they were born blind. I'm not sure if you were born dull or if you became this way but you are definitely very dull now.
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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
03:52 PM
#37
Yea, typical.
When you're wrong, you resort to insulting people.
Oh well.
GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
03:53 PM
#38
GunmaN1905 posted...
Yea, typical.
When you're wrong, you resort to insulting people.
Oh well.

You've literally been proven wrong in all aspects lol. The only thing you have left is going "nuh uh, I'm right" like a 6 year old.
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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
04:00 PM
#39
GiftedACIII posted...
You've literally been proven wrong in all aspects lol. The only thing you have left is going "nuh uh, I'm right" like a 6 year old.


I could say the same about you.
LepartialJury
09/05/2017
04:04 PM
#40
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
You've literally been proven wrong in all aspects lol. The only thing you have left is going "nuh uh, I'm right" like a 6 year old.


I could say the same about you.

You are clearly wrong kid.
Simple-straight-narrow
GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
04:04 PM
#41
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
You've literally been proven wrong in all aspects lol. The only thing you have left is going "nuh uh, I'm right" like a 6 year old.


I could say the same about you.

Yeah, lol according to you if you burn your fingerprints and lose your teeth you're not you anymore. Close your account, you shitposter.
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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
04:05 PM
#42
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
You've literally been proven wrong in all aspects lol. The only thing you have left is going "nuh uh, I'm right" like a 6 year old.


I could say the same about you.

Yeah, lol according to you if you burn your fingerprints and lose your teeth you're not you anymore. Close your account, you shitposter.


What about DNA analysis?
If a brain transplant occurs, ofc.
Cleo_II
09/05/2017
04:06 PM
#43
I already do. I have zero reason not to.
Kisai
09/05/2017
04:08 PM
#44
Zurkon posted...
I already do and I hope we reach that point some day.

This. Being able to have that done as an operation would be fucking amazing. And I don't even want kids.
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GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
04:08 PM
#45
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
You've literally been proven wrong in all aspects lol. The only thing you have left is going "nuh uh, I'm right" like a 6 year old.


I could say the same about you.

Yeah, lol according to you if you burn your fingerprints and lose your teeth you're not you anymore. Close your account, you shitposter.


What about DNA analysis?
If a brain transplant occurs, ofc.

I already told you, everything would have to be redone in that case, like how it works in real life already. I'm not sure if you know or not, but who you are is your brain. You don't suddenly become a whole new person if you get a tattoo or are filled with someone else's blood after an accident. And if your brain was destroyed and someone put an AI to control your body, you are killed. The AI is merely controlling your body,
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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
04:11 PM
#46
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
You've literally been proven wrong in all aspects lol. The only thing you have left is going "nuh uh, I'm right" like a 6 year old.


I could say the same about you.

Yeah, lol according to you if you burn your fingerprints and lose your teeth you're not you anymore. Close your account, you shitposter.


What about DNA analysis?
If a brain transplant occurs, ofc.

I already told you, everything would have to be redone in that case, like how it works in real life already. I'm not sure if you know or not, but who you are is your brain. You don't suddenly become a whole new person if you get a tattoo or are filled with someone else's blood after an accident. And if your brain was destroyed and someone put an AI to control your body, you are killed. The AI is merely controlling your body,


It's been proven that people with transplanted organs subconsciously pick up habits and skills from the donors.
If you change the whole body...
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GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
04:21 PM
#48
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
You've literally been proven wrong in all aspects lol. The only thing you have left is going "nuh uh, I'm right" like a 6 year old.


I could say the same about you.

Yeah, lol according to you if you burn your fingerprints and lose your teeth you're not you anymore. Close your account, you shitposter.


What about DNA analysis?
If a brain transplant occurs, ofc.

I already told you, everything would have to be redone in that case, like how it works in real life already. I'm not sure if you know or not, but who you are is your brain. You don't suddenly become a whole new person if you get a tattoo or are filled with someone else's blood after an accident. And if your brain was destroyed and someone put an AI to control your body, you are killed. The AI is merely controlling your body,


It's been proven that people with transplanted organs subconsciously pick up habits and skills from the donors.
If you change the whole body...

Do you have an official study confirming those?
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GunmaN1905
09/05/2017
04:22 PM
#49
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
You've literally been proven wrong in all aspects lol. The only thing you have left is going "nuh uh, I'm right" like a 6 year old.


I could say the same about you.

Yeah, lol according to you if you burn your fingerprints and lose your teeth you're not you anymore. Close your account, you shitposter.


What about DNA analysis?
If a brain transplant occurs, ofc.

I already told you, everything would have to be redone in that case, like how it works in real life already. I'm not sure if you know or not, but who you are is your brain. You don't suddenly become a whole new person if you get a tattoo or are filled with someone else's blood after an accident. And if your brain was destroyed and someone put an AI to control your body, you are killed. The AI is merely controlling your body,


It's been proven that people with transplanted organs subconsciously pick up habits and skills from the donors.
If you change the whole body...

Do you have an official study confirming those?


Google it.
GiftedACIII
09/05/2017
04:25 PM
#50
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...


I could say the same about you.

Yeah, lol according to you if you burn your fingerprints and lose your teeth you're not you anymore. Close your account, you shitposter.


What about DNA analysis?
If a brain transplant occurs, ofc.

I already told you, everything would have to be redone in that case, like how it works in real life already. I'm not sure if you know or not, but who you are is your brain. You don't suddenly become a whole new person if you get a tattoo or are filled with someone else's blood after an accident. And if your brain was destroyed and someone put an AI to control your body, you are killed. The AI is merely controlling your body,


It's been proven that people with transplanted organs subconsciously pick up habits and skills from the donors.
If you change the whole body...

Do you have an official study confirming those?


Google it.

I did. Most of it is anecdotal evidence with only one official study from 1992 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1299456 where 80% said they had no change in personality while the others did but aren't sure whether it was from the life changing event or not.
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Newhopes
09/05/2017
04:26 PM
#51
When will stupid SJW get it into their heads I don't want to sleep with a transgender, that does not make me a bigot.
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