https://twitter.com/thecookinglane/status/1768015489853243590?s=20
old people, man
i dont see the difference in china owning my data vs the US lol like i really think this is a lot of nationalistic propaganda.
byterance is trying to throw everything at the wall hoping that something can prevent this from happening
but if both Congress and the president agree on it, and they both sign the paper, then there is only one thing bytedance can do to try and stop it
and that's appeal to the supreme court, which definitely is not going to go their way
byterance is trying to throw everything at the wall hoping that something can prevent this from happeningEverything except just letting anyone other than the Chinese government own them, which would solve the whole thing instantly and move like a hundred billion dollars into the bank accounts of whomever was in charge of the sale. But the CCP won't let that happen because they think owning TikTok is worth more than whatever the monetary value is.
You'd be surprised, especially now that Trump is saying not to ban TikTok (a complete 180 from his view when he was president). I'm assuming he fears it will get banned and see this as a "Biden win", but he also has a vendetta against facebook and could also see this as Facebook getting more popular with a TikTok ban. Man only thinks of himself.
But the CCP won't let that happen because they think owning TikTok is worth more than whatever the monetary value is.
It's not really about spying though. It's about China using tiktok to influence American voters. Russia and China have been using social media to do this for ages now.
So ban all social media.
It's not really about spying though. It's about China using tiktok to influence American voters. Russia and China have been using social media to do this for ages now.
So ban all social media. Why single out one?Starting with the worst I guess. The one that has no economic impact for Americans
Starting with the worst I guess. The one that has no economic impact for AmericansWow, so brave to say something so stupid. There are American content creators on Tiktok, dumbass.
Wow, so brave to say something so stupid. There are American content creators on Tiktok, dumbass.No one cares about them. Tiktok barely pays anything. It affects so few billionaires that pay politicians that it doesn't matter.
https://apnews.com/article/tiktok-mnuchin-house-senate-ffdf37776e63a09bb6966d741df7093b
Awesome
Amazing
So much better
I like the "any service that collects data on users around the globe should be owned by Americans" without a hint of self-awareness.I'm really curious what kind of warped ignorant version of the world one has to have to genuinely not at least conceptually understand that its a bad idea to have the most popular social media thing in your society be run directly by an actively hostile foreign government. China is the most famous high profile example of thinking exactly this! They sure as shit do not allow any wholly foreign controlled social media in their country.
I'm really curious what kind of warped ignorant version of the world one has to have to genuinely not at least conceptually understand that its a bad idea to have the most popular social media thing in your society be run directly by an actively hostile foreign government. China is the most famous high profile example of thinking exactly this! They sure as shit do not allow any wholly foreign controlled social media in their country.
Oh, there are absolutely concerns about Tiktok being controlled by China. There are just similar concerns about any social media being owned by any government, such that "it'd be okay if America had control of Tiktok" is pretty blatantly just a power grab hidden behind a thin veneer of nationalism and xenophobia.If you want to give your information to China or Russia you're free to sign up for a Vkontakte or WeChat account because US and Chinese censorship are not the same. It is an absurd mental contortion to equivocate the US rejecting direct CCP control of a major social media platform (which, again, would be totally free to exist in the US if it were controlled by almost literally anyone else) and China's all-encompassing firewalling of every single foreign media app that catches their attention.
i have realized why they care about tiktok and not facebook/twitter, and it's because the us government is unable to actually solicit any information from tiktok like they can with facebook and twitter.
If you want to give your information to China or Russia you're free to sign up for a Vkontakte or WeChat account because US and Chinese censorship are not the same. It is an absurd mental contortion to equivocate the US rejecting direct CCP control of a major social media platform (which, again, would be totally free to exist in the US if it were controlled by almost literally anyone else) and China's all-encompassing firewalling of every single foreign media app that catches their attention.
If you want to give your information to China or Russia you're free to sign up for a Vkontakte or WeChat account because US and Chinese censorship are not the same. It is an absurd mental contortion to equivocate the US rejecting direct CCP control of a major social media platform (which, again, would be totally free to exist in the US if it were controlled by almost literally anyone else) and China's all-encompassing firewalling of every single foreign media app that catches their attention.
Are they not equivalent? Certainly, China's censorship of foreign media is on another level, but it's still the same principle of "we don't want other countries being able to influence our people." I have pretty much no faith that Amazon, Google, or Meta wouldn't sell the same info to China for a sufficient price, nor do I expect that the American government is any less likely to abuse whatever data they collect or use platforms within their control to manipulate people than China is. This is solely a matter of "I'm more comfortable with people that are ostensibly on my side doing these things than people that aren't."
Its weird how triggered people get by just hearing the name of the app. People will literally melt down just knowing it exists because it exists.
While China's censorship is an issue -- and their control is more encompassing -- this isn't even a censorship issue with the app, it's a potential national security issue. And the reason other nations get a free pass (not all of them, but most) is because we literally don't have a government glaringly stealing secrets that's either used by their government or given to their companies.
byterance is trying to throw everything at the wall hoping that something can prevent this from happening
but if both Congress and the president agree on it, and they both sign the paper, then there is only one thing bytedance can do to try and stop it
and that's appeal to the supreme court, which definitely is not going to go their way
personally, i don't see a single difference between what tik tok has the potential to do and what Facebook and Twitter are already doing, so
Everything except just letting anyone other than the Chinese government own them, which would solve the whole thing instantly and move like a hundred billion dollars into the bank accounts of whomever was in charge of the sale. But the CCP won't let that happen because they think owning TikTok is worth more than whatever the monetary value is.
I'm not sure if the ban will work even if it passes (although if TikTok is moved off from the Apple and Google storefronts then its dead as a cultural force even if people can sideload it) and I don't know exactly how precisely the CCP can operate TikTok as a lever of control but I do think having the most popular social media app in America be owned and shadow-operated by an enemy government is bad.