He said "Gun laws right now are not achievable. My daughter was murdered by a gun. She should have been safe in school. I'm not saying don't go after gun laws. I'm not a gun expert, i'm saying that's the problem. School shootings always getting twisted into gun laws and gun control. If we all focus together, one nation, no political affiliation, we could work together and make schools safe again, and then we go fight it out"
I'm so tired of people using gun control as "fix all" solution. Look how many acts of terror / violence were committed all other the world with out using any guns.
@Jen0125 revising gun laws doesn't fix why these people feel that resorting to violence is the best way to solve their problems and won't stop the increased level of violent offenders.
mental health easier/more affordable
Not really. They just use something else instead of guns.
Needing mental health help is still taboo and there's a definite uptick in the cost of health care not the opposite.
Revising guns laws won't stop the problem of violence. Violence is the problem not guns.
Lobomoon posted...
Not really. They just use something else instead of guns.
yeah please show me a mass baseball batting and mass knifing that killed 17 people at an american school.
Jen0125 posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Not really. They just use something else instead of guns.
yeah please show me a mass baseball batting and mass knifing that killed 17 people at an american school.
You are so naive. But there are plenty news reports of terrorists using explosives, fires or heavy vehicles to kill people.
Lobomoon posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Not really. They just use something else instead of guns.
yeah please show me a mass baseball batting and mass knifing that killed 17 people at an american school.
You are so naive. But there are plenty news reports of terrorists using explosives, fires or heavy vehicles to kill people.
Key word was American. And school.
Lobomoon posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Not really. They just use something else instead of guns.
yeah please show me a mass baseball batting and mass knifing that killed 17 people at an american school.
You are so naive. But there are plenty news reports of terrorists using explosives, fires or heavy vehicles to kill people.
Key word was American. And school.
Lil69Leo posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Not really. They just use something else instead of guns.
yeah please show me a mass baseball batting and mass knifing that killed 17 people at an american school.
You are so naive. But there are plenty news reports of terrorists using explosives, fires or heavy vehicles to kill people.
Key word was American. And school.
So just because it doesn't have those keywords - it can't be done?
Jen0125 posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Not really. They just use something else instead of guns.
yeah please show me a mass baseball batting and mass knifing that killed 17 people at an american school.
You are so naive. But there are plenty news reports of terrorists using explosives, fires or heavy vehicles to kill people.
Lobomoon posted...
Lil69Leo posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Not really. They just use something else instead of guns.
yeah please show me a mass baseball batting and mass knifing that killed 17 people at an american school.
You are so naive. But there are plenty news reports of terrorists using explosives, fires or heavy vehicles to kill people.
Key word was American. And school.
So just because it doesn't have those keywords - it can't be done?
Because it doesn't have those key words and has never been done at a school it's pretty fucking irrelevant.
Plus Asian nations are infamous for mass stabbing incidents.
Lil69Leo posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Lil69Leo posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Not really. They just use something else instead of guns.
yeah please show me a mass baseball batting and mass knifing that killed 17 people at an american school.
You are so naive. But there are plenty news reports of terrorists using explosives, fires or heavy vehicles to kill people.
Key word was American. And school.
So just because it doesn't have those keywords - it can't be done?
Because it doesn't have those key words and has never been done at a school it's pretty fucking irrelevant.
So if it doesn't happen in front of you face it doesn't exist?
"Gun control", as proposed by people who tend to believe the AR-15 is particularly dangerous, based entirely on appearance and not actual functionality, means further control of legal weapons, while doing nothing to deter the illegally-obtained weapons, which comprise 80% of violent gun crime.
Lil69Leo posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Lil69Leo posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Jen0125 posted...
Lobomoon posted...
Not really. They just use something else instead of guns.
yeah please show me a mass baseball batting and mass knifing that killed 17 people at an american school.
You are so naive. But there are plenty news reports of terrorists using explosives, fires or heavy vehicles to kill people.
Key word was American. And school.
So just because it doesn't have those keywords - it can't be done?
Because it doesn't have those key words and has never been done at a school it's pretty fucking irrelevant.
So if it doesn't happen in front of you face it doesn't exist?
Gunsandredroses posted...
"Gun control", as proposed by people who tend to believe the AR-15 is particularly dangerous, based entirely on appearance and not actual functionality, means further control of legal weapons, while doing nothing to deter the illegally-obtained weapons, which comprise 80% of violent gun crime.
Give me one valid reason you need a military grade assault rifle for personal use. It's absolutely military grade and can be made to fire rapidly legally.
Imagine having 0 argument and making up shit responses like yours.
What if you actually made good points. There is another good hypothetical.
Lil69Leo posted...
Gunsandredroses posted...
"Gun control", as proposed by people who tend to believe the AR-15 is particularly dangerous, based entirely on appearance and not actual functionality, means further control of legal weapons, while doing nothing to deter the illegally-obtained weapons, which comprise 80% of violent gun crime.
Give me one valid reason you need a military grade assault rifle for personal use. It's absolutely military grade and can be made to fire rapidly legally.
I like how people say military grade like it makes something better or more scary. Military grade just means it was built for certain requirements and is made by the lowest bidder.
Plus Asian nations are infamous for mass stabbing incidents. Hell, in Japan just a few years ago, some guy stabbed to death 19 people (and injured others) and then, because it's Japan, turned himself in at a nearby police station. There's not enough shit you can ban and freedoms you can remove to stop spree killers.
Give me one valid reason you need a military grade assault rifle for personal use.
Lobomoon posted...
I'm so tired of people using gun control as "fix all" solution. Look how many acts of terror / violence were committed all other the world with out using any guns.
and where did they take place in american schools? no one is saying removing guns is a fix all for every crime but if you're talking about reducing school shooting then fuckin maybe making access to guns more difficult could curb those numbers. whodathunk?
SunWuKung420 posted...
@Jen0125 revising gun laws doesn't fix why these people feel that resorting to violence is the best way to solve their problems and won't stop the increased level of violent offenders.
and? you can revise gun laws and make taking care of mental health easier/more affordable.
whodathunk??
mrduckbear posted...
He said "Gun laws right now are not achievable. My daughter was murdered by a gun. She should have been safe in school. I'm not saying don't go after gun laws. I'm not a gun expert, i'm saying that's the problem. School shootings always getting twisted into gun laws and gun control. If we all focus together, one nation, no political affiliation, we could work together and make schools safe again, and then we go fight it out"
yeah we can make schools safe again by enacting reasonable and sensible gun control
no shit sherlock
"School shootings get twisted into gun laws and gun control" stands as the single most idiotic thing I've read in ages... Dumb and/or ignorant people are the most likely to have absurd opinions based on fallacies. Why do you think anyone still believes a) that their guns could protect then from such a powerful government and b) that said government hasn't already taken complete control already and is just good at placating/fooling the masses? America is a liberal oligarchy, and to think otherwise is to fool yourself. You know who else has elections? North Korea.
Jen0125 posted...
mrduckbear posted...
He said "Gun laws right now are not achievable. My daughter was murdered by a gun. She should have been safe in school. I'm not saying don't go after gun laws. I'm not a gun expert, i'm saying that's the problem. School shootings always getting twisted into gun laws and gun control. If we all focus together, one nation, no political affiliation, we could work together and make schools safe again, and then we go fight it out"
yeah we can make schools safe again by enacting reasonable and sensible gun control
no shit sherlock
No you cant. There are thousands of laws. A few more will not work.
People need to stop being the flock and arm themselves and become wolves.
Lil69Leo posted...
Gunsandredroses posted...
"Gun control", as proposed by people who tend to believe the AR-15 is particularly dangerous, based entirely on appearance and not actual functionality, means further control of legal weapons, while doing nothing to deter the illegally-obtained weapons, which comprise 80% of violent gun crime.
Give me one valid reason you need a military grade assault rifle for personal use. It's absolutely military grade and can be made to fire rapidly legally.
I like how people say military grade like it makes something better or more scary. Military grade just means it was built for certain requirements and is made by the lowest bidder.
Lil69Leo posted...
Give me one valid reason you need a military grade assault rifle for personal use.
bill of rights not bill of needs
Yet every other country in the 1st world doesn't have this problem. I wonder why.
No military grade means the military will use it for armed conflict because it does a good job at killing.
Mauser posted...
Jen0125 posted...
mrduckbear posted...
He said "Gun laws right now are not achievable. My daughter was murdered by a gun. She should have been safe in school. I'm not saying don't go after gun laws. I'm not a gun expert, i'm saying that's the problem. School shootings always getting twisted into gun laws and gun control. If we all focus together, one nation, no political affiliation, we could work together and make schools safe again, and then we go fight it out"
yeah we can make schools safe again by enacting reasonable and sensible gun control
no shit sherlock
No you cant. There are thousands of laws. A few more will not work.
People need to stop being the flock and arm themselves and become wolves.
Yet every other country in the 1st world doesn't have this problem. I wonder why.