Air Force General John Hyten, the Top US Nuclear Commander has said that if President Trump ordered a nuclear attack on North Korea, he would REFUSE!!
Do you think General Hyten is right to defy Trump if he orders a Nuke attack? let's see what people will vote
Ya, WW2 ruined the 'just following orders' defense, now people have to actually think... which is antithetical to fascist regimes.
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Zeus posted...
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Lol somebody's triggered.
Also, the guy didn't say he'd refuse.
He told an audience at the Halifax International Security Forum in Canada that he's thought a lot about what he would do and if Trump ordered a nuke attack, he considers it illegal.
considering a soviet soldier refused to follow orders and didn't nuke us at one time, I feel this guy has the moral right to say no. he may lose his job and be thrown in the brig, but sometimes thats worth knowing you did what you felt was right.
I personally feel our nukes should only ever be used as a counter strike against someone launching nukes against us. deterrence theory and all that. otherwise we got some pretty big non nuclear bombs that would still do the job fairly well if our government decides NK needs to be bombed.
considering a soviet soldier refused to follow orders and didn't nuke us at one time, I feel this guy has the moral right to say no. he may lose his job and be thrown in the brig, but sometimes thats worth knowing you did what you felt was right.
mooreandrew58 posted...
considering a soviet soldier refused to follow orders and didn't nuke us at one time, I feel this guy has the moral right to say no. he may lose his job and be thrown in the brig, but sometimes thats worth knowing you did what you felt was right.
That was a retaliatory strike. No safety is gained during a retaliatory strike, other than maybe stopping additional attacks down the road. However, if we learned hours in advance that NK had a long-range missile which it was going to destroy most of California then a nuclear strike could prevent massive American casualties... only for the launch to be blocked because General Dickweed has beef with the president and his personal grudge is more important than millions of American lives.
mooreandrew58 posted...
considering a soviet soldier refused to follow orders and didn't nuke us at one time, I feel this guy has the moral right to say no. he may lose his job and be thrown in the brig, but sometimes thats worth knowing you did what you felt was right.
That was a retaliatory strike. No safety is gained during a retaliatory strike, other than maybe stopping additional attacks down the road. However, if we learned hours in advance that NK had a long-range missile which it was going to destroy most of California then a nuclear strike could prevent massive American casualties... only for the launch to be blocked because General Dickweed has beef with the president and his personal grudge is more important than millions of American lives.
Zeus posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
considering a soviet soldier refused to follow orders and didn't nuke us at one time, I feel this guy has the moral right to say no. he may lose his job and be thrown in the brig, but sometimes thats worth knowing you did what you felt was right.
That was a retaliatory strike. No safety is gained during a retaliatory strike, other than maybe stopping additional attacks down the road. However, if we learned hours in advance that NK had a long-range missile which it was going to destroy most of California then a nuclear strike could prevent massive American casualties... only for the launch to be blocked because General Dickweed has beef with the president and his personal grudge is more important than millions of American lives.
Your hypotheticals are irrelevant.
This isn't about intelligence coming out where the military itself would advise such a use of force.
This is about having the most incapable president in US history pushing congress to look into limiting the ability of presidents to order nuclear strikes.
If you read the quotes you would see the general said he would advise him and refuse any orders that were "illegal". The sorts of orders he would ignore would be "Rocket man said something mean to me on twitter bomb them".
Your bull shit defense of this authoritarian is really old.
Everyone hates trump and says no to nuking NK but you all wait.. let NK be and develop mass nukes and missiles.. see what happens then. Don't go crying to your president then.
xjayguyx posted...
Everyone hates trump and says no to nuking NK but you all wait.. let NK be and develop mass nukes and missiles.. see what happens then. Don't go crying to your president then.
if you are Pro-Nuking north korea...
Are you aware what you are even saying?
You are talking about killing millions of lives all because of a corrupt few in power in that area.
Nuking should be the last option...if at all.
Dont hit me with that "Necessary Sacrifice" bs either, you should always put into account the innocent lives.
Yes im well aware the U.S. killed millions of innocents in WW2 due to the atomic bombs, im well aware the U.S. did a ton of horrible crimes that nobody teaches you in U.S. school because god forbid we look like the bad guys.
I dont agree with the nukes being used in WW2, and i dont agree with them being used now