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s0nicfan posted...
Like I said, the process has to be gradual. People and business have to move together in order to build up a solid base or it won't work. Those cities that you say are crumbling, are crumbling because there isn't enough money to fix them, because there aren't enough people and businesses to raise enough tax revenue to do so. Those places will naturally turn around as tax revenue increases, but if your default response to a city starting to fall apart is to flee it then all you're doing is guaranteeing it. It might not be the same location, but you're highlighting exactly how this process can and does work in the current day.

It may be something that has to be incentivized, but it's an approach that will have far more long-term success than continuing to try to jam an infinite number of people into a finite space simply because that's where people most want to be.
I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying, but it's not exactly easy, especially when you have a lot of people that you would have to leave behind.

Those cities are crumbling because of ineffectual governing by NY state, so there's a bit more going on there.

bigblu89 posted...
Come out to Suffolk county while it's still affordable.

Best decision I ever made was going from 516 to 631
Yeah, I lived out there for a bit too. It's nice and quiet, but gets desolate. It's not exactly welcoming to non-white people depending on the areas of Suffolk you go to.

Which is another issue. Non-white people don't have as much mobility to go to many suburban and rural areas of the US unless they're bringing a whole crew with them.

Tyranthraxus posted...
I've a friend who lives in Albany and everything seems fine when I visit him. Also tons of parking compared to new York City
Parking where? Parking in downtown Albany was horrid. It was as bad as Boston.

This is gonna depend on the area of Albany. There are safer and quieter areas like Guilderland and Latham, but some are pretty bad. It's also not much cheaper than NYC, which is the bigger point. You go 200 miles away from NYC to an old ass city that is decaying to save a relatively small amount.

I was paying $650 for a 2 bedroom up there about 12 years ago. That place is now $1500. You can find a 2 bedroom in NYC for like $1600-$1800 in the outer boroughs, so uprooting to go there or the rest of empty upstate NY is not exactly a wise decision.

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