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BombermanGold
09/12/25 5:58:48 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
I mean look if all that stuff amounts to him being a groyper then I stand corrected. Gen Z leftists I follow are saying he isnt a groyper but just an annoying kid so idk fine I guess

What's their argument against?

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SaikyoStyle
09/12/25 9:36:49 PM
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BombermanGold posted...
What's their argument against?
They dont want him to be a groyper so he isnt one.

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MaxEffingBemis
09/12/25 10:42:24 PM
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BombermanGold posted...
What's their argument against?
Their argument was just he is a chronically online annoying irony-pilled kid

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el_cheato
09/13/25 10:48:28 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
He was clearly pro second amendment

As far as I'm concerned no gun owner is ever truly progressive
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There is a sizeable contingent of socialists and communists who are very pro-gun. Not saying that's what this kid was, but it's not really a sure way to tell what direction someone leans.

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Evening_Dragon
09/13/25 10:55:25 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
As far as I'm concerned no gun owner is ever truly progressive

That is the wildest nonsense I have read in a while

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MarshMellow
09/13/25 11:05:13 AM
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A maga regularly posting here would be like the average CEman being a regular on Truth Social. Sounds like a painful masochistic experience.
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haloiscoolisbak
09/13/25 11:06:22 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
That is the wildest nonsense I have read in a while

Why?

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OniLink5000
09/13/25 11:29:47 PM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
He was clearly pro second amendment

As far as I'm concerned no gun owner is ever truly progressive

is this kind of like a no true scotsman type thing?

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Rika_Furude
09/13/25 11:34:52 PM
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I don't think someone is necessarily "not progressive" just because they support guns, but it is a massive red flag due to all of the school shooting, mass shootings and even small incidents which just wouldn't have happened if gun control was in place.
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haloiscoolisbak
09/14/25 12:05:00 AM
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OniLink5000 posted...
is this kind of like a no true scotsman type thing?

I just live in Australia. I'm not exaggerating when i say I've never met a gun owner who would describe themselves as progressive/vote left wing. I've met very few to begin with but yeah, they all fit a certain type. Hunters, farmers, military members, ultra patriots, alt-righters.

In fact one of our most conservative ever Prime Ministers was the one who brought in our strong gun control laws after one massacre. Here, hardly anyone thinks they're a good idea.

I think Americans might have a baseline level of gun acceptance that i just can't comprehend. It's been so ingrained in your culture for so long and all that.

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Rika_Furude
09/14/25 3:46:57 PM
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In regards to the supposed progressive gun supporters?
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pedro45
09/14/25 3:57:51 PM
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Marxism is...broad. like, at this point, it's usually used at this point as an insult and out of ignorance.
You notice how Trump used it during his debate with Harris?
It's just a trigger word basically.

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Rika_Furude
09/14/25 8:29:46 PM
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Im sure they exist in an even rarer form than black maga
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Will_VIIII
09/14/25 8:58:18 PM
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specialkid8 posted...
I don't think there have been any actual ones here since the beginning of Trumps first term. Just opportunistic trolls who like to argue.
There's still a number of em but the ones remaining surprisingly have been able to reign it in.

I think they're trying to blend in now but too many people still recall past remarks.

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ConfusedTorchic
09/14/25 9:05:35 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Im sure they exist in an even rarer form than black maga

we had one of those on potd some years ago

they posted an image of them being the only person at some conservative maga meetup and it was really sad

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Rika_Furude
09/14/25 9:32:30 PM
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I didnt say they dont exist. I said they are so rare and also its a massive red flag anyway, its hard to take them seriously in the same way I cant take any maga seriously let alone black maga. Im progressive, but support guns and everything about American gun culture is certainly a take that raises my eyebrow
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thekosmicfool
09/14/25 9:52:36 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Im progressive, but support guns and everything about American gun culture is certainly a take that raises my eyebrow

Who the fuck is saying that, though? You can be progressive and support both arming yourself AND gun control measures.

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Rika_Furude
09/14/25 10:25:12 PM
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thekosmicfool posted...
support both arming yourself AND gun control measures.
wrong
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thekosmicfool
09/14/25 11:59:44 PM
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no u

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ConfusedTorchic
09/15/25 1:42:17 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
wrong

no.

the two are not mutually exclusive.

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MaxEffingBemis
09/16/25 4:37:52 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Definitely not
I am vindicated

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