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stoppin at the stoe on the way home. gonna grab white bread and Kraft singles. cravin it bad

whats ur strats guys?

Whole wheat or sourdough and sharp chedder. Put a little of the chedder on the outside too. Obviously ketchup on the side.

im using white bread and kraft singles. lookin for methods, not ingredients. but ty!

I always go with Colby Jack on sourdough, spread mayo on the bread and fry it with butter in the pan.

I recommend grilling it without burning it

You can go easy mode and simply put two slices of bread in the toaster, and lay some cheese on top.

Depends. Buuuuuuut here's my favorite "cheap shit" method.

1. Wonderbread. Yes that wonderbread. Lightly toast first.
2. Spread small amount of butter both sides.
3. Use shredded cheese to both slices of bread. American cheese is also ok.
4. After like a minute of grilling slap cheese sides together and flip until thoroughly melted

Tyranthraxus posted...

Depends. Buuuuuuut here's my favorite "cheap shit" method.

1. Wonderbread. Yes that wonderbread. Lightly toast first.
2. Spread small amount of butter both sides.
3. Use shredded cheese to both slices of bread. American cheese is also ok.
4. After like a minute of grilling slap cheese sides together and flip until thoroughly melted

this sounds great. what cheese to bread ratio do u recommend?

I use a bit of mayonnaise spread on the outside of the bread when I fry it. Lube the pan with a bit of butter as well before you throw the sandwich in

ive heard of the mayo strat but as a mayo hater i am scared. im willing to try it tho

American slices? Please. Go to your deli and get some of the cheddar with pepperoni bits and make a sandwich worth eating.

I just use white bread with margarine and 2 Kraft singles, but I usually add something else in the middle like a burger patty or some sort of lunch meat.

I no longer eat dairy but when I did Id use real cheese or if I was going to use melty fake cheese Id use velveeta. I cant do the kraft singles. That stuff doesnt melt good enough for me.

Also mayo makes the best grilled cheese and there is science behind it with the smoking point and yada yada but basically if you butter only the inside of your bread and spread a thin schmear of mayo on the exterior of the sandwich, you create the ideal conditions for the bread to toast, cheese to melt and butter to shine. The mayonnaise doesnt actually provide flavor if youre a mayo hater, you wont even taste it, I promise but instead encourages ideal browning and melting.

Also this is cheating but Im evolved past just grilled cheese and have to put some ham in there. So good. But Im a ham lover.

archizzy posted...

I no longer eat dairy but when I did Id use real cheese or if I was going to use melty fake cheese Id use velveeta. I cant do the kraft singles. That stuff doesnt melt good enough for me.

Also mayo makes the best grilled cheese and there is science behind it with the smoking point and yada yada but basically if you butter only the inside of your bread and spread a thin schmear of mayo on the exterior of the sandwich, you create the ideal conditions for the bread to toast, cheese to melt and butter to shine. The mayonnaise doesnt actually provide flavor if youre a mayo hater, you wont even taste it, I promise but instead encourages ideal browning and melting.

im gonna do it!!!

Dungeater posted...

gonna grab white bread and Kraft singles.

https://youtu.be/nIP5ypkMf5Q?si=HSpb5QWgOVnfOlj8

Fancy schmancy method:

1. Big ol slices of white bread
2. Apply some kind of oily sauce on the insides. If you don't have one, mayonnaise works.
3. Add your fillings whatever they are.
4. Slap together, place entire sandwich in a panini press and push it down.
5. Once cheese starts melting, apply a little butter to the outsides.
6. Continue toasting in panini press

Dungeater posted...

this sounds great. what cheese to bread ratio do u recommend?

Exactly 2 slices if using wonder bread and no other ingredients. If you're adding other filler stuff it varies.

I tried 3 slices once and it was just kinda gross and 1 slice wasn't good enough.

Butter or mayo on the outside of your bread, two slices of cheese inside, air fry for 7 minutes at 360 flipping once after 3 minutes and again with 1 minute left. If youre a professional, youll sprinkle Everything Bagel seasoning on the sandwich after the second flip.

SirEsquireIII posted...

I use a bit of mayonnaise spread on the outside of the bread when I fry it. Lube the pan with a bit of butter as well before you throw the sandwich in

As much as I love mayo i don't find it appealing on grilled cheese. Same with miracle whip. Butter on both sides AND in the pan, for cheese Kraft singles is alright (TC) I prefer Velveeta or if you want to get fancy Cooper Sharp. The bread I use is Italian since it makes for a wide looking sandwich...the ratio I leave a bit of room open so it can melt properly without sticking to the pan much.

I like putting a strip of bacon in there.
A friend of mine has said that grape jelly is really good on a grilled cheese. I never tried it myself, but I'm intrigued enough to try.

I like a nice thin slice of tomato in my grilled cheese.

Slow and low imo

butter the outside of the bread, put on a cold pan, turn to medium low and cover

once golden brown (~5 minutes, but ya gotta check) flip and repeat on the other side

2 piece of bread 1 slice of the most American American cheese you can find put cheese between bread put in microwave on high 30 seconds.

Dats a girlled cheese baby!

Preheat the oven to 450

Butter the top and bottom of the sandwich. Two slices of cheese between them. Place in the oven for about 4-5 minutes, flip over and cook for another 3-4 minutes.

ThePWBPoster posted...

As much as I love mayo i don't find it appealing on grilled cheese. Same with miracle whip. Butter on both sides AND in the pan, for cheese Kraft singles is alright (TC) I prefer Velveeta or if you want to get fancy Cooper Sharp. The bread I use is Italian since it makes for a wide looking sandwich...the ratio I leave a bit of room open so it can melt properly without sticking to the pan much.

Velveeta has the wrong consistency for grilled cheese IMO it's meant for things like Mac & cheese or making cheese dips. Kraft singles on the other hand is basically formulated specifically to make quick & dirty grilled cheese.

Mayo on both sides of the bread, heat until looking good, flip, heat until that side starts looking good then done.

Dungeater posted...

ive heard of the mayo strat but as a mayo hater i am scared. im willing to try it tho

my daughter hated mayonnaise at first but turned out the mother smothered her serving w/ it which would probably make her dislike it

now my daughter loves that condiment

i put a thin film on the outside of the sandwiches i make and low cook em (preheated cause it alters the GC results)

makes it taste like cake if done a certain way.

I don't use Kraft, though it certainly does melt better. I prefer to mix and match my cheeses, like use cheddar or swiss for it. I typically melt butter in a pan, slap the sandwich on it to soak up a chunk of the butter, then flip it over and get the other side with more butter. Cook till golden brown and then done.

If I do swiss I might add some honey ham or black forest ham. Cheddar I typically have with tomato soup. Amount of cheese varies, usually at least 2 - 4 slices. Also I use sliced italian bread or just white bread

Kaldrenthebold posted...

I don't use Kraft, though it certainly does melt better.

You can make any cheese melt with the right ingredients. The reason why American melts so well is that it's basically 60% water & oil. You can get a dryer cheese like cheddar and add sambal to give the extra moisture it needs to melt properly. Plus it tastes better.

Toast bread, flamenco cheese from the Azores, black pepper

Toast in a panini machine until the cheese is melted into the bread.

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It's still relieving to know I can make a better grilled cheese than Gordon Ramsay.

Starks posted...

It's still relieving to know I can make a better grilled cheese than Gordon Ramsay.

You can clearly tell the dude has never made a grilled cheese in his life and was just trying to wing it with ingredients that he liked without any idea of how to actually cook it.

Starks posted...

It's still relieving to know I can make a better grilled cheese than Gordon Ramsay.

he never made beef taste like deer before tho I am gambling

Sourdough + butter + one slice colby jack + one slice mozz
Sizzle up to golden brown, drizzle with honey

I like to sprinkle a little garlic powder on one side, before placing it in the pan.

Tyranthraxus posted...

You can make any cheese melt with the right ingredients. The reason why American melts so well is that it's basically 60% water & oil. You can get a dryer cheese like cheddar and add sambal to give the extra moisture it needs to melt properly. Plus it tastes better.

That's good to know, will use in the future!

Yeah butter the outside of the bread, put the cheese in between the two slices and then cool until the bread is golden brown and the cheese is melted.

And I personally would go for cheese slices like Sargento or Tillamook over Kraft singles, but hey it's your sandwich

Tyranthraxus posted...

You can get a dryer cheese like cheddar

instructions unclear, melted cheese is now all up inside clothes dryer

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His cheese isn't even melted at all. I normally like Ramsay methods but this one fails.

You must have tomato soup for dipping the sandwich, also.

man this topic turned out great! tonight im doing the classic kraft on white bread, gonna butter the insides and lightly mayo the outsides and try the low and slow strat but i think ill apply a high finish

im not opposed to other cheeses and breads. tonight is just a special occasion and me and my hub want the classic

ive got so many strats to try now, u guys rule

Dungeater posted...

i think ill apply a high finish

I don't know how well it would work, but if you do that you could try adding seasoning to the butter in the skillet before putting the sandwich back on. Like Italian seasoning or whatever, something to encrust the outside.

You're aiming for a bit of a "crust/crunch," that could help a bit.

But I'm a dumbass in the kitchen, so I might be giving terrible advice.

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Even better is his "redemption" video where he uses at least five pans, about a dozen ingredients, has to cook it in the oven, and the cheese still doesn't melt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCqns11E_9M

Dungeater posted...

im gonna do it!!!

I will try the mayo method too. It has never toasted right so I am willing to try it.

I've never had a problem getting a good crust with just butter, so I will not be putting that abomination known as Mayo on any grilled cheese. Can't believe that's a thing lol

BewmHedshot posted...

His cheese isn't even melted at all. I normally like Ramsay methods but this one fails.

You must have tomato soup for dipping the sandwich, also.

And then he fucked it up again for the redo video

Put bread in toaster, once toasted put cheese slice between toast, eat.

Best method for the saddest grilled cheese of your life.

TMOG posted...

Even better is his "redemption" video where he uses at least five pans, about a dozen ingredients, has to cook it in the oven, and the cheese still doesn't melt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCqns11E_9M

And has to do a camera edit to obviously get the second attempt and even then it's not even a grilled cheese. It's a short rib sandwich with some melted cheese lol. It's more like a Philly cheesesteak