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SwayM
10/20/24 7:01:03 PM
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What is CE's thoughts on this.

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thronedfire2
10/20/24 7:01:50 PM
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sidewalk if they're going slow

road if they're riding fast like a crazy person

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divot1338
10/20/24 7:02:49 PM
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A separate but equal roadway.

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Krojen
10/20/24 7:03:19 PM
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Sidewalk with extreme mindfulness and courtesy to the pedestrians.

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Aristoph
10/20/24 7:04:28 PM
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Neither. They deserve properly designed bike paths. Forcing them to use something inherently designed for a different mode of transport makes zero sense and kinda pisses me off. I don't even ride a bike, but I'm as mad when I have to share the road with a bike as they are at having to share it. Riding your bicycle to the corner shouldn't be a life-threatening experience on unsafe roads.

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creativerealms
10/20/24 7:05:43 PM
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If there is no bike lane in the road they belong in the sidewalk.

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K181
10/20/24 7:08:50 PM
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Sidewalk for kids, street for teeangers and adults, but as far over to the right as possible and following normal vehicular rules of the road.

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whitelytning
10/20/24 7:09:03 PM
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The road or appropriate bike lane.

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viewmaster_pi
10/20/24 7:12:19 PM
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Aristoph posted...
Neither. They deserve properly designed bike paths. Forcing them to use something inherently designed for a different mode of transport makes zero sense and kinda pisses me off.
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emblem-man
10/20/24 7:14:07 PM
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Protected bike lanes preferably.

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PMarth2002
10/20/24 7:14:09 PM
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bike lanes preferably. They're a nuisance at best and a danger at worst on the road and on sidewalks.

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UnsteadyOwl
10/20/24 7:15:56 PM
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Yeah, there really should be bike lanes. But failing that then sidewalk is most preferable.

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Enclave
10/20/24 7:17:04 PM
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Depends on if the city is competently designed or not.

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pedro45
10/20/24 7:20:43 PM
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whitelytning posted...
The road or appropriate bike lane.


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Glob
10/20/24 7:21:27 PM
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whitelytning posted...
The road or appropriate bike lane.

This. But more importantly, motorbikes do not belong on the pavement.
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ablegator
10/20/24 7:29:15 PM
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Roads or bike lanes. Bicycles do not belong on the sidewalk for anyone over the age of 12. One of the most annoying aspects of where I live now is people who think motorized bikes/dirt bikes should be on the sidewalk.


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ai123
10/20/24 7:29:28 PM
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If an adult is riding, road.

They are a vehicle, and they can absolutely get the fuck off the pavement (sidewalk).

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Puglia77
10/20/24 7:30:36 PM
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Sidewalk, I don't trust bike lanes.

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ThePieReborn
10/20/24 7:30:55 PM
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Don't really care, but just pick one and stick with it. I hate the twits who go back and forth between street and sidewalk. They're negligence cases on wheels.

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Link_of_time
10/20/24 7:32:03 PM
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On paths at the park or other bike designated area. Everywhere else should be bike free.
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ai123
10/20/24 7:36:05 PM
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It's illegal in the UK to ride a bike on the pavement. Danger to pedestrians.

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GuerrillaSoldier
10/20/24 7:42:35 PM
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if anything, they just don't belong on the sidewalk


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TheAwesomeMatt
10/20/24 7:46:35 PM
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Preferably in a bike lane, if no bike lane then the road. They're a danger to pedestrians on the sidewalk.

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bigtiggie23
10/20/24 7:50:11 PM
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I keep my bike on the sidewalk. I want the protection of a curb between me and the speeding cars. Plus I only see pedestrians on the sidewalk a few times a year, and when I do I give them full clearance.

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toreysback
10/20/24 7:57:12 PM
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the road. i'm trying to walk on the sidewalk

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Xatrion
10/20/24 8:32:01 PM
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TheAwesomeMatt posted...
They're a danger to pedestrians on the sidewalk.

You think they're a bigger danger to pedestrians on a sidewalk than cars driving by at 45mph or more?

Bike bumps pedestrian = Ow that hurts.
Bike comes into contact with car = Lucky if you're not dead or horribly mangled.

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thronedfire2
10/20/24 8:34:09 PM
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Xatrion posted...
You think they're a bigger danger to pedestrians on a sidewalk than cars driving by at 45mph or more?

Bike bumps pedestrian = Ow that hurts.
Bike comes into contact with car = Lucky if you're not dead or horribly mangled.

while I generally agree with your logic, if the bike is going fast enough it can still cause serious injury to a pedestrian

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eggcorn
10/20/24 8:38:53 PM
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K181 posted...
Sidewalk for kids,
This for sure.

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samsungsalt
10/20/24 8:39:16 PM
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Is this a serious question or a rhetorical one?

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rick_alverado
10/20/24 8:40:47 PM
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Depends on the street in question. In my city some streets don't have sidewalks, in which case it's the street by default. Most other streets it's supposed to be on the street regardless, except for younger kids. But there's also a highway that runs through the city which has an extra wide sidewalk which is also designated as a bike path, so for that it's the sidewalk. There's another highway that runs through where the sidewalk isn't designated as a bike path, and that one is much more mixed. Back when I had a bike, I would generally go on the sidewalk on that one, but I also only went down it when it was mostly empty.
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tamagucci
10/20/24 8:40:56 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...


I used an AI to help summarize why it's more dangerous to have a bike on the sidewalk than the road so it's easier to understand.

Increased Collision Risk
Bicyclists on sidewalks are at a higher risk of collisions, especially at intersections and driveways:

- Cyclists on sidewalks are 1.8 times more likely to be involved in an accident at intersections compared to those riding on the road[1].
- 42% of accidents where a motorist turns left in front of a cyclist involve sidewalk riders[1].
- Nearly 50% of accidents involving motorists exiting alleys or driveways involve sidewalk cyclists[1].

Visibility Issues
Drivers are less likely to notice or anticipate cyclists on sidewalks:

- Motorists typically look for pedestrian traffic on sidewalks, not faster-moving bicycles[4].
- Cyclists on sidewalks often have poor sight lines and reduced predictability[6].

Legal and Practical Concerns
Riding on sidewalks presents several other issues:

- It's often illegal to ride on sidewalks, especially for adults[5].
- Sidewalks are not designed for bicycle speeds, with uneven surfaces, sharp turns, and obstacles[4].
- Cyclists on sidewalks may conflict with pedestrians, creating unsafe conditions for both groups[3].

Safety on Roads
While riding on roads may feel less safe, it's generally safer for several reasons:

- Cyclists are more visible to drivers when on the road[4].
- Roads have more consistent surfaces and fewer obstacles[4].
- Proper bike infrastructure, like protected bike lanes, can significantly reduce accident risks[7].

Conclusion
The safest option is to have dedicated infrastructure for each mode of transportation: sidewalks for pedestrians, protected bike lanes for cyclists, and roads for motor vehicles[5]. When such infrastructure is not available, cyclists are generally safer riding on the road while following traffic laws and safety practices.


Lol what a load of shit.

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Giacomo_Hawkins
10/20/24 8:41:33 PM
#36:


Bicycles belong in bike lanes. If that's not available, it depends on the sidewalk. If it's a broad sidewalk with plenty of room, then they can be on the sidewalk. If it's a narrow sidewalk, then they should be on the street.

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IceCreamOnStero
10/20/24 8:44:52 PM
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They belong on a bike path separate from both

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bfslick50
10/20/24 8:46:30 PM
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Depends on road width and traffic.

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Payzmaykr
10/20/24 8:59:07 PM
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On the road, in the bike lane. If there is no bike lane, then you should get off and walk your bike on the sidewalk until you get to one. In neighborhoods, they belong on the street keeping to the right
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Krojen
10/20/24 9:06:12 PM
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tamagucci posted...
Lol what a load of shit.
Yeah this sort of AI was a mistake.

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TheAwesomeMatt
10/20/24 9:58:17 PM
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Xatrion posted...
You think they're a bigger danger to pedestrians on a sidewalk than cars driving by at 45mph or more?

Bike bumps pedestrian = Ow that hurts.
Bike comes into contact with car = Lucky if you're not dead or horribly mangled.

Your logic doesn't flow here. Yes, bikes are more of a danger to pedestrians on sidewalks than if they were on the road.

And bikes are cars are safe on roads together if all participants are safe, risk averse and aware drivers/cyclists. Not exactly difficult to understand.

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Ivany2008
10/20/24 10:44:28 PM
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I'm probably going to be one of the few that thinks that bikes should be on the sidewalk. At least in low walking locations. If your somewhere with high foot traffic like New York, assuming there is no bike lane, then either the side of the road, or on the road.
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Luigi_and_Tails
10/20/24 11:00:45 PM
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My opinion - cycle lanes, or on the road.

I have a bicycle and a car, and whilst I think it's absolutely fine for kids to cycle on the pavement when they haven't yet mastered the green cross code and general self-awareness, if you're old enough to ride a bike that can go faster than cars in low-traffic neighbourhoods then you belong on the road.

Where there are shared pavements (between pedestrians and cyclists) I fully understand and agree why some cyclists would prefer to ride on the road instead. As a driver yes it can be a bit annoying, but my 20 seconds of inconvenience is irrelevant compared to that cyclist doing 20-30mph on a pavement and risking other peds.

That being said, there are some roads that pretty much every cyclist avoids.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/XY5fPyNtFBv2MEcz7
This is a 60mph road - and no, it's not one-way. It's rare to see cyclists there for simple self-preservation reasons.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/iVDSgpkFx1CPTLr48
This is a 70mph road and whilst occasionally you see the odd lycra warrior on there, it's also generally avoided because it's pretty much a motorway.


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Will_VIIII
10/20/24 11:02:56 PM
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Laws are going to vary per county. In mine if there's a bike lane you're supposed to use it. If not you can use either but if you're on the sidewalk you're supposed to yield to pedestrians.

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C-zom
10/21/24 12:00:38 AM
#47:


Bike Lane > Street > Jetpack >>>>> Sidewalk

Anything but the sidewalk, basically. I'm an extremely defensive, observant driver. I will never give a shit if a person on a bike is ahead of me on a double yellow 25mph. I'll let them ride, maybe even roll my windows down and blast hype music. Life is too short to die in a multi-ton killing machine accident.

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PissedOffMonk
10/21/24 12:10:43 AM
#48:


It's called a sidewalk, not a sidebicycle. Stay on the road or get off and walk the bike.
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SwayM
10/21/24 9:51:54 AM
#49:


As a pedestrian, I've never once had a problem with a bicyclist sharing the sidewalk with me.

As a driver, I'm consistently annoyed every single day by bicyclists. Get off the fucking road.

Yes, in a perfect world there should be bike lanes everywhere, but until that day, get off the road.

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BloodyBenten
10/21/24 9:53:33 AM
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If youre on the sidewalk with a bike you should almost definitely be walking it. Exceptions if no one is around or youre just there for a second to get around something.

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