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STEROLIZER 07/01/24 9:09:39 PM #1:	Do you agree with Suspension's no longer purging? - Results (97 votes) Yes, suspensions should last forever. 29.9% (29 votes) 29 Leaning towards YES, while the thought of having suspensions from the modern day following to my grave might seem unsettling, so long as you don't break the rules.. 0% (0 votes) 0 Leaning towards YES, there is rampant abuse by trolls who lie low waiting for their history to purge, there needs to be a higher level of accountability initiated. 8.25% (8 votes) 8 Kind of, so long as suspensions are reserved for significant violations, and suspensions aren't used as a form of stacked punishment. 4.12% (4 votes) 4 Kind of, so long as suspensions are reserved for significant suspensions, and existing suspensions currently within a user's history purge at their previously agreed upon time. 4.12% (4 votes) 4 Not really, while I agree that certain violations should carry more weight than they currently do, I still believe that users should be rewarded for good behavior. 4.12% (4 votes) 4 Not really, while I agree the system can be milked, I still think the system should be based around reformation, and getting users back into the general populace as good standing community members 1.03% (1 vote) 1 Leaning towards NO, community members should be given an equal opportunity to purge their moderation history via good behavior over time; this seems like it will drive people towards alt accounts 9.28% (9 votes) 9 Leaning towards NO, keeping an active historical archival of one's posting history seems like overkill; can you imagine having suspensions from 20 years ago still showing up in your mod history? 3.09% (3 votes) 3 No, I don't support this change whatsoever. 36.08% (35 votes) 35 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/33c4fbbe.jpg I tried to offer up a wide range of options in the poll. If nothing seems to align with your personal feelings on the matter, then refrain from voting, and share your opinion in a comment below instead! The Poll Options: Yes, suspensions should last forever. Leaning towards YES, while the thought of having suspensions from the modern day following to my grave might seem unsettling, so long as you don't break the rules Leaning towards YES, there is rampant abuse by trolls who lie low waiting for their history to purge, there needs to be a higher level of accountability initiated. Kind of, so long as suspensions are reserved for significant violations, and suspensions aren't used as a form of stacked punishment. Kind of, so long as suspensions are reserved for significant suspensions, and existing suspensions currently within a user's history purge at their previously agreed upon time. Not really, while I agree that certain violations should carry more weight than they currently do, I still believe that users should be rewarded for good behavior. Not really, while I agree the system can be milked, I still think the system should be based around reformation, and getting users back into the general populace as good standing community members Leaning towards NO, community members should be given an equal opportunity to purge their moderation history via good behavior over time; this seems like it will drive people towards alt accounts Leaning towards NO, keeping an active historical archival of one's posting history seems like overkill; can you imagine having suspensions from 20 years ago still showing up in your mod history? No, I don't support this change whatsoever. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:981110175] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote> Do you agree with Suspension's no longer purging? - Results (97 votes) Yes, suspensions should last forever. 29.9% (29 votes) 29 Leaning towards YES, while the thought of having suspensions from the modern day following to my grave might seem unsettling, so long as you don't break the rules.. 0% (0 votes) 0 Leaning towards YES, there is rampant abuse by trolls who lie low waiting for their history to purge, there needs to be a higher level of accountability initiated. 8.25% (8 votes) 8 Kind of, so long as suspensions are reserved for significant violations, and suspensions aren't used as a form of stacked punishment. 4.12% (4 votes) 4 Kind of, so long as suspensions are reserved for significant suspensions, and existing suspensions currently within a user's history purge at their previously agreed upon time. 4.12% (4 votes) 4 Not really, while I agree that certain violations should carry more weight than they currently do, I still believe that users should be rewarded for good behavior. 4.12% (4 votes) 4 Not really, while I agree the system can be milked, I still think the system should be based around reformation, and getting users back into the general populace as good standing community members 1.03% (1 vote) 1 Leaning towards NO, community members should be given an equal opportunity to purge their moderation history via good behavior over time; this seems like it will drive people towards alt accounts 9.28% (9 votes) 9 Leaning towards NO, keeping an active historical archival of one's posting history seems like overkill; can you imagine having suspensions from 20 years ago still showing up in your mod history? 3.09% (3 votes) 3 No, I don't support this change whatsoever. 36.08% (35 votes) 35 Show Voting Form https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/33c4fbbe.jpgI tried to offer up a wide range of options in the poll. If nothing seems to align with your personal feelings on the matter, then refrain from voting, and share your opinion in a comment below instead!The Poll Options:Yes, suspensions should last forever. Leaning towards YES, while the thought of having suspensions from the modern day following to my grave might seem unsettling, so long as you don't break the rules Leaning towards YES, there is rampant abuse by trolls who lie low waiting for their history to purge, there needs to be a higher level of accountability initiated. Kind of, so long as suspensions are reserved for significant violations, and suspensions aren't used as a form of stacked punishment. Kind of, so long as suspensions are reserved for significant suspensions, and existing suspensions currently within a user's history purge at their previously agreed upon time. Not really, while I agree that certain violations should carry more weight than they currently do, I still believe that users should be rewarded for good behavior. Not really, while I agree the system can be milked, I still think the system should be based around reformation, and getting users back into the general populace as good standing community members Leaning towards NO, community members should be given an equal opportunity to purge their moderation history via good behavior over time; this seems like it will drive people towards alt accounts Leaning towards NO, keeping an active historical archival of one's posting history seems like overkill; can you imagine having suspensions from 20 years ago still showing up in your mod history? No, I don't support this change whatsoever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/01/24 9:11:46 PM #2:	So if you get suspended, it's a permanent mark? And how does that impact how mods treat you in the future? What if someone is suspended one time and then 5 years later after perfect behavior, they get modded. Is their account at risk because of a 5 year old suspension? <cite>Zikten posted [p:981110212] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>So if you get suspended, it's a permanent mark? And how does that impact how mods treat you in the future? What if someone is suspended one time and then 5 years later after perfect behavior, they get modded. Is their account at risk because of a 5 year old suspension?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/01/24 9:11:58 PM #3:	This is a FANDOM decision. Isn't this what you wanted? You were talking about pushing aside the old guard after all. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:981110214] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>This is a FANDOM decision. Isn't this what you wanted? You were talking about pushing aside the old guard after all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 07/01/24 9:17:52 PM #5:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:981110288] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 07/01/24 9:18:23 PM #6:	Umbreon posted... This is a FANDOM decision. Isn't this what you wanted? You were talking about pushing aside the old guard after all. I chose option 5 Kind of, so long as suspensions are reserved for significant suspensions, and existing suspensions currently within a user's history purge at their previously agreed upon time but option 4 would be my second choice. I think its a good idea in theory. I just think the execution is off. A lot of the current suspensions users have are culimative in nature. Meaning, that on their own merit they didnt warrant suspension, the infraction was only upgraded to a suspension due to poor moderation history. Thats not even a malicious thing, its just how the moderation team was instructed to moderate under the old guard or so I assume. Ive always been strongly against culiminative suspensions, as I believe it kills engagement by forcing otherwise harmless users to stop using the platform. DToast in his brief explanation on the suggestion board seems to suggest that hes trying to change the culmination of damage approach to moderation in exchange for suspensions to be directly related to serious and significant TOS violations. In that regard I support it. I think its a good idea. In execution, well see. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:981110300] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>This is a FANDOM decision. Isn't this what you wanted? You were talking about pushing aside the old guard after all.</quote>I chose option 5Kind of, so long as suspensions are reserved for significant suspensions, and existing suspensions currently within a user's history purge at their previously agreed upon timebut option 4 would be my second choice.I think its a good idea in theory. I just think the execution is off. A lot of the current suspensions users have are culimative in nature. Meaning, that on their own merit they didnt warrant suspension, the infraction was only upgraded to a suspension due to poor moderation history. Thats not even a malicious thing, its just how the moderation team was instructed to moderate under the old guard or so I assume. Ive always been strongly against culiminative suspensions, as I believe it kills engagement by forcing otherwise harmless users to stop using the platform.DToast in his brief explanation on the suggestion board seems to suggest that hes trying to change the culmination of damage approach to moderation in exchange for suspensions to be directly related to serious and significant TOS violations.In that regard I support it. I think its a good idea. In execution, well see. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
atom27 07/01/24 9:18:29 PM #7:	So many options.. --- oraena, inioa a, rench na, antie a, eite va <cite>atom27 posted [p:981110303] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>So many options.. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Diceheist 07/01/24 9:19:59 PM #8:	Absolutely brutal lol, so if you get suspended your CE access is on borrowed time even if you don't get Purgatoried right away. --- Day I lost CE access: TBA <cite>Diceheist posted [p:981110320] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Absolutely brutal lol, so if you get suspended your CE access is on borrowed time even if you don't get Purgatoried right away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 07/01/24 9:21:34 PM #9:	This is fine, I've had a gfaqs account for over 20 years and I've only been warned once, never anything more severe than that. --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:981110332] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>This is fine, I've had a gfaqs account for over 20 years and I've only been warned once, never anything more severe than that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Agent_Stroud 07/01/24 9:29:44 PM #11:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This. Havent been modded since that pissing match I had with a known instigator on the PlayStation 5 board several months back, as while Ive been known to be an irritant to some of the regulars there, so long as I keep my snark firmly directed at the discussion at hand and not redirect it towards the other users participating in said discussion, Im not in violation of the ToS last I checked. --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) <cite>Agent_Stroud posted [p:981110442] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This. Havent been modded since that pissing match I had with a known instigator on the PlayStation 5 board several months back, as while Ive been known to be an irritant to some of the regulars there, so long as I keep my snark firmly directed at the discussion at hand and not redirect it towards the other users participating in said discussion, Im not in violation of the ToS last I checked. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ironman2009 07/01/24 9:31:44 PM #12:	Agent_Stroud posted... This. Havent been modded since that pissing match I had with a known instigator on the PlayStation 5 board several months back, as while Ive been known to be an irritant to some of the regulars there, so long as I keep my snark firmly directed at the discussion at hand and not redirect it towards the other users participating in said discussion, Im not in violation of the ToS last I checked. Was it that Azane person --- THRILLHO <cite>ironman2009 posted [p:981110468] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Agent_Stroud posted... </cite><quote>This. Havent been modded since that pissing match I had with a known instigator on the PlayStation 5 board several months back, as while Ive been known to be an irritant to some of the regulars there, so long as I keep my snark firmly directed at the discussion at hand and not redirect it towards the other users participating in said discussion, Im not in violation of the ToS last I checked.</quote>Was it that Azane person </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 07/01/24 9:33:18 PM #13:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] A quote often said by people that can't post here --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:981110488] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> A quote often said by people that can't post here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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STEROLIZER 07/01/24 9:41:16 PM #15:	Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... This is fine, I've had a gfaqs account for over 20 years and I've only been warned once, never anything more severe than that. I know I went about 19 years without ever even getting a suspension, then due to apparently spoiling a film that had just released I was given one. The point is that once you do get one, its hard to come back from them, because you kind of get stuck in a loop where now that because you have a suspension on your record, what would have previously been a no karma loss deletion will now be upgraded to an additional suspension. The only way out (besides stopping posting for a while) was via permanently changing your posting habits, which in essence is being rewarded for good behavior Now it seems that good behavior will no longer be rewarded, because too many people were just posting on alts until their mains got back into good standing? This is an interesting direction to take this, because the moderation system was designed 24 years ago with reformation and rehabilitation as its goal to keep users active, and the site healthy. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:981110569] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... </cite><quote>This is fine, I've had a gfaqs account for over 20 years and I've only been warned once, never anything more severe than that.</quote>I know I went about 19 years without ever even getting a suspension, then due to apparently spoiling a film that had just released I was given one. The point is that once you do get one, its hard to come back from them, because you kind of get stuck in a loop where now that because you have a suspension on your record, what would have previously been a no karma loss deletion will now be upgraded to an additional suspension.The only way out (besides stopping posting for a while) was via permanently changing your posting habits, which in essence is being rewarded for good behaviorNow it seems that good behavior will no longer be rewarded, because too many people were just posting on alts until their mains got back into good standing?This is an interesting direction to take this, because the moderation system was designed 24 years ago with reformation and rehabilitation as its goal to keep users active, and the site healthy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Agent_Stroud 07/01/24 9:43:31 PM #16:	ironman2009 posted... Was it that Azane person Nope, it was 8SaintWanderer, actually. I got Warned for repeatedly misspelling their name in a manner meant to mock and belittle them despite being told to knock it off by the same moderator who had already given them a warning for similarly disrespectful behavior. Its all right though, as I ultimately learned from my mistake and have basically ignored their presence on the board even if theyre technically not on my ignore list. --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) <cite>Agent_Stroud posted [p:981110601] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>ironman2009 posted... </cite><quote>Was it that Azane person</quote>Nope, it was 8SaintWanderer, actually. I got Warned for repeatedly misspelling their name in a manner meant to mock and belittle them despite being told to knock it off by the same moderator who had already given them a warning for similarly disrespectful behavior.Its all right though, as I ultimately learned from my mistake and have basically ignored their presence on the board even if theyre technically not on my ignore list. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 07/01/24 9:48:32 PM #17:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Kinda is when the rules are so damn vague. --- "Abbreviating "laughing out loud" is a common troll trait." AzureHero <cite>Baha05 posted [p:981110674] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Kinda is when the rules are so damn vague. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 07/01/24 9:57:50 PM #18:	But if suspensions are going to be stuck on your record for the rest of your life, they 100% need to be accompanied by moderator notes explaining why. I have a suspension from last September where to this very day I have no idea why it was even moderated, no less why I was suspended for it. I have to imagine that if thats stuck with me for the rest of my life, then future moderators looking at that are probably going to have just as much trouble trying to decipher it as I do. Especially if its like twenty years into the future and Im being moderated by some person thats 32, and would have been 12 at the date of my actual suspension. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:981110785] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>But if suspensions are going to be stuck on your record for the rest of your life, they 100% need to be accompanied by moderator notes explaining why.I have a suspension from last September where to this very day I have no idea why it was even moderated, no less why I was suspended for it. I have to imagine that if thats stuck with me for the rest of my life, then future moderators looking at that are probably going to have just as much trouble trying to decipher it as I do.Especially if its like twenty years into the future and Im being moderated by some person thats 32, and would have been 12 at the date of my actual suspension.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 07/01/24 10:01:12 PM #19:	STEROLIZER posted... if suspensions are going to be stuck on your record for the rest of your life, they 100% need to be accompanied by moderator notes explaining why. yes. but it's nothing to worry about until you see 6 month purgatory. it's when we're all walking on thin ice and can fall through at any time for any reason. --- currently playing: Yakuza Kiwami (ps4) RIP Sophie the dog: February 2011-april 2024. we'll miss you alot. <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:981110830] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted...</cite><quote>if suspensions are going to be stuck on your record for the rest of your life, they 100% need to be accompanied by moderator notes explaining why.</quote>yes. but it's nothing to worry about until you see 6 month purgatory. it's when we're all walking on thin ice and can fall through at any time for any reason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 07/01/24 10:03:14 PM #20:	wasnt' this change made like a yr ago? like suspensions never purgin? is not new? <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:981110857] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>wasnt' this change made like a yr ago? like suspensions never purgin? is not new?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 07/01/24 10:04:30 PM #21:	GranTurismo posted... wasnt' this change made like a yr ago? like suspensions never purgin? is not new? It just happened this week <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:981110876] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>wasnt' this change made like a yr ago? like suspensions never purgin? is not new?</quote>It just happened this week</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 07/01/24 10:05:32 PM #22:	STEROLIZER posted... It just happened this week coulda sworn some other user infamously said like many months ago that his purgatory will not go away..... <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:981110898] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted... </cite><quote>It just happened this week</quote>coulda sworn some other user infamously said like many months ago that his purgatory will not go away.....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BDSMKane 07/01/24 10:17:41 PM #23:	For anyone who thinks this sounds familiar, its because thats how the US penal system works too. --- No matter our origin, we are all one family, we all share one planet, and we all need to feel loved and accepted. We are more alike than different. <cite>BDSMKane posted [p:981111039] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>For anyone who thinks this sounds familiar, its because thats how the US penal system works too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 07/01/24 11:08:21 PM #24:	BDSMKane posted... For anyone who thinks this sounds familiar, its because thats how the US penal system works too. True that <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:981111627] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>BDSMKane posted... </cite><quote>For anyone who thinks this sounds familiar, its because thats how the US penal system works too.</quote>True that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranTurismo 07/01/24 11:12:28 PM #25:	STEROLIZER posted... True that So you have one personally that will not drop off? Make an alt <cite>GranTurismo posted [p:981111670] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted... </cite><quote>True that</quote>So you have one personally that will not drop off? Make an alt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 07/01/24 11:50:19 PM #26:	I've spent nearly 20 years of my life relentlessly shitposting on this website, and the worst I've ever gotten was a 3KL --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:981112037] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>I've spent nearly 20 years of my life relentlessly shitposting on this website, and the worst I've ever gotten was a 3KL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
parisdolphin 07/02/24 12:30:33 AM #27:	Doesn't affect me personally but I don't think this is good for the longevity of the site. Of course this is exactly what Fandom wants. <cite>parisdolphin posted [p:981112351] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Doesn't affect me personally but I don't think this is good for the longevity of the site. Of course this is exactly what Fandom wants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 07/02/24 12:59:44 AM #28:	pray that i do not alter it further... --- The shoe is on the hand it fits There's really nothing much to it <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:981112568] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>pray that i do not alter it further... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 07/02/24 1:30:38 AM #29:	FL81 posted... I've spent nearly 20 years of my life relentlessly shitposting on this website, and the worst I've ever gotten was a 3KL Me too. Went 19 years until my first suspension, but once youre in the system you cant get out of it. Something that would have been a 3KL is now another suspension. One of the mods said this change was so that troubled users cant lie low and let their history clearbut is behaving for an entire year really lying low? Because that sounds like rehabilitation to me, which is the point of the moderation system. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:981112818] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>FL81 posted... </cite><quote>I've spent nearly 20 years of my life relentlessly shitposting on this website, and the worst I've ever gotten was a 3KL</quote>Me too. Went 19 years until my first suspension, but once youre in the system you cant get out of it. Something that would have been a 3KL is now another suspension. One of the mods said this change was so that troubled users cant lie low and let their history clearbut is behaving for an entire year really lying low? Because that sounds like rehabilitation to me, which is the point of the moderation system. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/02/24 1:43:07 AM #30:	It's not really "behaving" for a lot of them so much as hiding. Their mentality is unchanged, they just post on an alt or post on a board where they know they won't get modded. Then they do the exact same thing they did before. Permanent consequences for getting suspended/purgatory... I have mixed feeling. On the one hand, it's a burn that won't stop burning for frequent troublemakers. That fear will never go away, and frankly it's a well earned feeling of misery for them. ...On the other hand, it's also unnecessarily harsh even for my taste. It really should be on a case by case business if that sort of thing should perma stick. But like if it becomes relevant, are you a frequent troublemaker in the first place? It's hard to believe someone's getting suspended constantly and isn't being a shitter in some way. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:981112910] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>It's not really "behaving" for a lot of them so much as hiding. Their mentality is unchanged, they just post on an alt or post on a board where they know they won't get modded. Then they do the exact same thing they did before.Permanent consequences for getting suspended/purgatory... I have mixed feeling.On the one hand, it's a burn that won't stop burning for frequent troublemakers. That fear will never go away, and frankly it's a well earned feeling of misery for them. ...On the other hand, it's also unnecessarily harsh even for my taste. It really should be on a case by case business if that sort of thing should perma stick.But like if it becomes relevant, are you a frequent troublemaker in the first place? It's hard to believe someone's getting suspended constantly and isn't being a shitter in some way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 07/02/24 1:51:18 AM #32:	When did this take effect? Everyone who had a suspension on their account when it took effect now has them permanently or only suspensions after? --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:981112971] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>When did this take effect? Everyone who had a suspension on their account when it took effect now has them permanently or only suspensions after? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeltraT 07/02/24 2:05:08 AM #33:	GranTurismo posted... coulda sworn some other user infamously said like many months ago that his purgatory will not go away..... A suspension/purgatory was sticking for up to 2 years. But the bs is once more how they changed it. There was no annoncement. There was no update within the rules. There was nothing. They just changed their policy internally without saying anything at all, and only after getting asked "hey, this suspension should have been removed by now" they said "oh, yeah, well, nope, we just forgot to update the document there". Meanwhile DToast goes "But we did talk about it in the last Announcement!" yet can't say where and when and what is supposed to imply "suspensions are now here forever". LeoRavus posted... When did this take effect? Everyone who had a suspension on their account when it took effect now has them permanently or only suspensions after? Since people were already asking about that, it seems to hit them retroactively too. <cite>MeltraT posted [p:981113065] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>GranTurismo posted... </cite><quote>coulda sworn some other user infamously said like many months ago that his purgatory will not go away.....</quote>A suspension/purgatory was sticking for up to 2 years.But the bs is once more how they changed it.There was no annoncement.There was no update within the rules.There was nothing.They just changed their policy internally without saying anything at all, and only after getting asked "hey, this suspension should have been removed by now" they said "oh, yeah, well, nope, we just forgot to update the document there".Meanwhile DToast goes "But we did talk about it in the last Announcement!" yet can't say where and when and what is supposed to imply "suspensions are now here forever". LeoRavus posted... </cite><quote>When did this take effect? Everyone who had a suspension on their account when it took effect now has them permanently or only suspensions after?</quote>Since people were already asking about that, it seems to hit them retroactively too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 07/02/24 2:06:29 AM #34:	Irony posted... A quote often said by people that can't post here I've seen users sent to purg for making a harmless your mom joke. The system was already designed to cause a feedback loop that was easily exploited by other users. Now that this feature has been extended in perpetuity; you're essentially going to have different classes of users, where two people with a different amount of suspensions can now perform the same actions and get two different results... forever. It basicslly means your account can never be in good standing. Theres zero upside to this. I've actually given some grace to some of the Fandom stuff whilst being mostly indifferent to it but this is a terrible plan. --- The succotash is suffering. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:981113072] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>A quote often said by people that can't post here</quote>I've seen users sent to purg for making a harmless your mom joke. The system was already designed to cause a feedback loop that was easily exploited by other users. Now that this feature has been extended in perpetuity; you're essentially going to have different classes of users, where two people with a different amount of suspensions can now perform the same actions and get two different results... forever. It basicslly means your account can never be in good standing. Theres zero upside to this. I've actually given some grace to some of the Fandom stuff whilst being mostly indifferent to it but this is a terrible plan. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
leex0 07/02/24 2:10:10 AM #35:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com is literally trying to kill their websight. There's like 18 ppl who still go on here and they're trying to b7 anyone who says anything other than like The New Final Fantasy Game is Fun :-) --- Blue ford 438 526 483 351? Silver kia White expedition dp Black armada 512 535 <cite>leex0 posted [p:981113102] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com is literally trying to kill their websight. There's like 18 ppl who still go on here and they're trying to b7 anyone who says anything other than like The New Final Fantasy Game is Fun :-) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimson_Corsair 07/02/24 2:13:22 AM #36:	They should double down. If you get suspended and fail the dispute... instant ban. I assume you can dispute a suspension, but I wouldn't know since I follow the rules. --- My head's not torn off, my sunglasses aren't broken. Amen, hallelujah, peanut butter. <cite>Crimson_Corsair posted [p:981113127] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>They should double down. If you get suspended and fail the dispute... instant ban.I assume you can dispute a suspension, but I wouldn't know since I follow the rules. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 07/02/24 2:15:30 AM #37:	Umbreon posted... It's not really "behaving" for a lot of them so much as hiding. Their mentality is unchanged, they just post on an alt or post on a board where they know they won't get modded. Then they do the exact same thing they did before. They should cut down on alts. But the users that have alts shouldnt be allowed to completely change the moderation system like its not designed to just punish users that people dont like, its designed to help guide users to change up their posting habits, and become positive members of the community. Its why Ive been preaching that mod notes should be required, not optional. Without mod notes its not guaranteed that the system is doing as it was designed. If the user moderates had no idea why theyre moderated then the system is just being used for punishment and not reformation which is technically mod abuse as defined by CJayC back in the day. Find a way to crack down on the users that keep on making alt accounts, or coming back under new accounts once banned. But taking empthasis off of user rehabilitation by keeping a longtime users stuck in a suspension loop for the rest of their days is beyond counterintuitive. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:981113138] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>It's not really "behaving" for a lot of them so much as hiding. Their mentality is unchanged, they just post on an alt or post on a board where they know they won't get modded. Then they do the exact same thing they did before.</quote>They should cut down on alts. But the users that have alts shouldnt be allowed to completely change the moderation system like its not designed to just punish users that people dont like, its designed to help guide users to change up their posting habits, and become positive members of the community.Its why Ive been preaching that mod notes should be required, not optional. Without mod notes its not guaranteed that the system is doing as it was designed. If the user moderates had no idea why theyre moderated then the system is just being used for punishment and not reformation which is technically mod abuse as defined by CJayC back in the day. Find a way to crack down on the users that keep on making alt accounts, or coming back under new accounts once banned. But taking empthasis off of user rehabilitation by keeping a longtime users stuck in a suspension loop for the rest of their days is beyond counterintuitive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 07/02/24 2:15:32 AM #38:	Crimson_Corsair posted... . I assume you can dispute a suspension You cant. --- The succotash is suffering. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:981113139] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Crimson_Corsair posted... </cite>.<quote>I assume you can dispute a suspension</quote>You cant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimson_Corsair 07/02/24 2:18:03 AM #39:	Toonstrack posted... . You cant. Well that seems silly... why the hell not? --- My head's not torn off, my sunglasses aren't broken. Amen, hallelujah, peanut butter. <cite>Crimson_Corsair posted [p:981113150] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>.You cant.</quote>Well that seems silly... why the hell not? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/02/24 2:18:23 AM #40:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/80747432 Anyone see any specific mentions about changes to how suspensions are used? I don't. At most a vague mention of purgatory evasion. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:981113154] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/80747432Anyone see any specific mentions about changes to how suspensions are used? I don't. At most a vague mention of purgatory evasion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/02/24 2:19:30 AM #41:	Crimson_Corsair posted... Well that seems silly... why the hell not? Mods/admin got tired of people contesting well deserved suspensions I guess. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:981113160] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Crimson_Corsair posted... </cite><quote>Well that seems silly... why the hell not?</quote>Mods/admin got tired of people contesting well deserved suspensions I guess. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 07/02/24 2:20:13 AM #42:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/83f3a6e0.jpg --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:981113165] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/83f3a6e0.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/02/24 2:20:42 AM #43:	STEROLIZER posted... But taking empthasis off of user rehabilitation by keeping a longtime users stuck in a suspension loop for the rest of their days is beyond counterintuitive. Welcome to Fandom's new policy. No refunds. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:981113172] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted... </cite><quote>But taking empthasis off of user rehabilitation by keeping a longtime users stuck in a suspension loop for the rest of their days is beyond counterintuitive.</quote>Welcome to Fandom's new policy. No refunds. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 07/02/24 2:21:08 AM #44:	AI elsa pics should be instant purgatory --- The shoe is on the hand it fits There's really nothing much to it <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:981113174] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>AI elsa pics should be instant purgatory </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/02/24 2:24:42 AM #45:	viewmaster_pi posted... AI elsa pics should be instant purgatory Unironically agree. I had to ignore someone because 99% of their posts were the same two Elsa pics. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:981113201] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite><quote>AI elsa pics should be instant purgatory</quote>Unironically agree. I had to ignore someone because 99% of their posts were the same two Elsa pics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 07/02/24 2:24:42 AM #46:	Umbreon posted... But like if it becomes relevant, are you a frequent troublemaker in the first place? It's hard to believe someone's getting suspended constantly and isn't being a shitter in some way. I find its the opposite. Because once you mess up just one time, all the little things that would usually go unmoderated are now being upgraded to suspensions due to having a previous suspension on your record. Like I got suspended for making a topic on the Martial Arts board asking who would win in a UFC fight between Mark Zuckerberg & CM Punk like, if you think thats a troll topic, then whatever, but theres no justification for that to be a suspension on its own merit. I was even told that it probably would have been a delete without karma loss, but it resulted in a suspension because I had one on my record already. That happens a lot. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:981113202] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>But like if it becomes relevant, are you a frequent troublemaker in the first place? It's hard to believe someone's getting suspended constantly and isn't being a shitter in some way.</quote>I find its the opposite. Because once you mess up just one time, all the little things that would usually go unmoderated are now being upgraded to suspensions due to having a previous suspension on your record.Like I got suspended for making a topic on the Martial Arts board asking who would win in a UFC fight between Mark Zuckerberg & CM Punk like, if you think thats a troll topic, then whatever, but theres no justification for that to be a suspension on its own merit. I was even told that it probably would have been a delete without karma loss, but it resulted in a suspension because I had one on my record already. That happens a lot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 07/02/24 2:25:06 AM #47:	viewmaster_pi posted... AI elsa pics should be instant purgatory --- "The age of men is over, the time of women have come" - God <cite>David1988 posted [p:981113204] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite><quote>AI elsa pics should be instant purgatory</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 07/02/24 2:29:13 AM #48:	STEROLIZER posted... I find its the opposite. Because once you mess up just one time, all the little things that would usually go unmoderated are now being upgraded to suspensions due to having a previous suspension on your record. Yeah. And now that's never going away. How many new users do you think such a policy will attract? Honestly that topic seems pretty harmless, but I guess you'll just have to be super careful about what you say now. Forever. Because of Fandom policy. How many times did you lavishly support their actions in the feedback topic again? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:981113233] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>STEROLIZER posted... </cite><quote>I find its the opposite. Because once you mess up just one time, all the little things that would usually go unmoderated are now being upgraded to suspensions due to having a previous suspension on your record.</quote>Yeah. And now that's never going away. How many new users do you think such a policy will attract?Honestly that topic seems pretty harmless, but I guess you'll just have to be super careful about what you say now. Forever. Because of Fandom policy. How many times did you lavishly support their actions in the feedback topic again? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 07/02/24 2:32:35 AM #49:	viewmaster_pi posted... AI elsa pics should be instant purgatory Man you guys don't like anything. We should be focusing on how Fandom is killing the site... --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:981113252] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite><quote>AI elsa pics should be instant purgatory</quote>Man you guys don't like anything. We should be focusing on how Fandom is killing the site... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STEROLIZER 07/02/24 2:33:42 AM #50:	Umbreon posted... Yeah. And now that's never going away. How many new users do you think such a policy will attract? Honestly that topic seems pretty harmless, but I guess you'll just have to be super careful about what you say now. Forever. Meh, that particular topic purged. But I have one from September that Ive re-read a bunch of times and still have no idea why it was even moderated in the first place Because of Fandom policy. How many times did you lavishly support their actions in the feedback topic again? Man, this is the doing of those idiots on Reddit. They harassed the people on this site (notably the admins as well) to the point where the mods are paranoid that they might be using the site, that keeping them off of it is all they care about. Like the mods should be worried about increasing engagement, and ensuring everyone is playing nice and getting along, but their so shell shocked from those dozen or so idiots constantly harassing them that theyre instead just hyper focused on KOS Lists, and Permanent Suspension Loops. <cite>STEROLIZER posted [p:981113257] in There have... [t:80801688]...</cite> <quote>Umbreon posted... </cite><quote>Yeah. And now that's never going away. How many new users do you think such a policy will attract?Honestly that topic seems pretty harmless, but I guess you'll just have to be super careful about what you say now. Forever.</quote>Meh, that particular topic purged. But I have one from September that Ive re-read a bunch of times and still have no idea why it was even moderated in the first place <quote>Because of Fandom policy. How many times did you lavishly support their actions in the feedback topic again? </quote>Man, this is the doing of those idiots on Reddit. They harassed the people on this site (notably the admins as well) to the point where the mods are paranoid that they might be using the site, that keeping them off of it is all they care about.Like the mods should be worried about increasing engagement, and ensuring everyone is playing nice and getting along, but their so shell shocked from those dozen or so idiots constantly harassing them that theyre instead just hyper focused on KOS Lists, and Permanent Suspension Loops.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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