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CableZL 07/26/23 12:29:04 PM #51:	Tenlaar posted... You quoted me displaying that I understand the Republican Party cant be trusted to change birthright citizenship. I support jus sanguinis as a policy, I dont support Republicans crafting jus sanguinis legislation. I dont know how much more clear I can make that. So if birthright citizenship is removed, why do you think Republicans wouldn't craft the legislation? --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:975076131] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite><quote>You quoted me displaying that I understand the Republican Party cant be trusted to change birthright citizenship. I support jus sanguinis as a policy, I dont support Republicans crafting jus sanguinis legislation. I dont know how much more clear I can make that.</quote>So if birthright citizenship is removed, why do you think Republicans wouldn't craft the legislation?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrWingnut 07/26/23 12:29:20 PM #52:	RuneterranSnap posted... Stop engaging the troll --- Blank space <cite>MrWingnut posted [p:975076138] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>RuneterranSnap posted... </cite><quote>Stop engaging the troll</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 07/26/23 12:30:23 PM #53:	Tenlaar posted... You quoted me displaying that I understand the Republican Party cant be trusted to change birthright citizenship. I support jus sanguinis as a policy, I dont support Republicans crafting jus sanguinis legislation. I dont know how much more clear I can make that. Then why are you even okay with him saying that? We aren't other countries. Out of all the things to copy from other countries that do things. Citizenship shouldn't even be a priority. Birthright citizenship is fine. The system doesn't need to be changed and should never be changed so long as these people exist. --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:975076159] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite><quote>You quoted me displaying that I understand the Republican Party cant be trusted to change birthright citizenship. I support jus sanguinis as a policy, I dont support Republicans crafting jus sanguinis legislation. I dont know how much more clear I can make that.</quote>Then why are you even okay with him saying that? We aren't other countries. Out of all the things to copy from other countries that do things. Citizenship shouldn't even be a priority. Birthright citizenship is fine.The system doesn't need to be changed and should never be changed so long as these people exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 07/26/23 12:31:55 PM #54:	MrWingnut posted... Stop engaging the troll You know what? Fair. --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:975076185] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>MrWingnut posted... </cite><quote>Stop engaging the troll</quote>You know what? Fair. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 07/26/23 12:32:47 PM #55:	Tenlaar posted... I support jus sanguinis as a policy Why do you care enough to have a controversial policy position on it that you will argumentatively blabber about while acknowledging its unworkability in reality? --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:975076201] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite><quote>I support jus sanguinis as a policy</quote>Why do you care enough to have a controversial policy position on it that you will argumentatively blabber about while acknowledging its unworkability in reality?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SimulationSwarm 07/26/23 12:40:18 PM #56:	Hey look another topic where people argue with Tenlaar for some reason --- Np: Big Thief - Simulation Swarm <cite>SimulationSwarm posted [p:975076334] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Hey look another topic where people argue with Tenlaar for some reason </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap 07/26/23 12:42:08 PM #57:	SimulationSwarm posted... Hey look another topic where people argue with Tenlaar for some reason I tried to warn them --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:975076363] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>SimulationSwarm posted... </cite><quote>Hey look another topic where people argue with Tenlaar for some reason</quote>I tried to warn them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 07/26/23 12:46:07 PM #58:	SimulationSwarm posted... Hey look another topic where people argue with Tenlaar for some reason If we locked Tenlaar and Toonstrack in a room together, who would survive? --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe <cite>Euripides posted [p:975076440] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>SimulationSwarm posted... </cite><quote>Hey look another topic where people argue with Tenlaar for some reason</quote>If we locked Tenlaar and Toonstrack in a room together, who would survive?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap 07/26/23 12:48:33 PM #59:	Euripides posted... If we locked Tenlaar and Toonstrack in a room together, who would survive? They loop enough to create infinite power and explode, killing us all --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:975076478] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>If we locked Tenlaar and Toonstrack in a room together, who would survive?</quote>They loop enough to create infinite power and explode, killing us all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 07/26/23 12:50:48 PM #60:	SimulationSwarm posted... CableZL posted... So if birthright citizenship is removed, why do you think Republicans wouldn't craft the legislation? ArtiRock posted... Then why are you even okay with him saying that? We aren't other countries. Out of all the things to copy from other countries that do things. Citizenship shouldn't even be a priority. Birthright citizenship is fine. The system doesn't need to be changed and should never be changed so long as these people exist. I didnt say that any of that. I just said flat out that I dont support Republicans changing anything to do with birthright citizenship. I dont want it removed right now for exactly that reason. I dont understand why you guys are having such an extreme reaction to the concept that jus sanguinis in and of itself is a reasonable policy even when it comes with the immediate acknowledgment that it cannot be allowed to be changed with the Republican Party having anything to do with it. BurmesePenguin posted... Why do you care enough to have a controversial policy position on it that you will argumentatively blabber about while acknowledging its unworkability in reality? Please explain how jus sanguinis itself is not a bad policy is a controversial policy position when it is the position held by 85% of the countries in the world. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:975076524] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>SimulationSwarm posted... </cite> CableZL posted... <quote>So if birthright citizenship is removed, why do you think Republicans wouldn't craft the legislation?</quote>ArtiRock posted... </cite><quote>Then why are you even okay with him saying that? We aren't other countries. Out of all the things to copy from other countries that do things. Citizenship shouldn't even be a priority. Birthright citizenship is fine.The system doesn't need to be changed and should never be changed so long as these people exist.</quote>I didnt say that any of that. I just said flat out that I dont support Republicans changing anything to do with birthright citizenship. I dont want it removed right now for exactly that reason.I dont understand why you guys are having such an extreme reaction to the concept that jus sanguinis in and of itself is a reasonable policy even when it comes with the immediate acknowledgment that it cannot be allowed to be changed with the Republican Party having anything to do with it.BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>Why do you care enough to have a controversial policy position on it that you will argumentatively blabber about while acknowledging its unworkability in reality?</quote>Please explain how jus sanguinis itself is not a bad policy is a controversial policy position when it is the position held by 85% of the countries in the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 07/26/23 12:51:42 PM #61:	In the context of America it is controversial. Don't act stupid on purpose. --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:975076542] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>In the context of America it is controversial. Don't act stupid on purpose. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/26/23 12:52:36 PM #62:	Tenlaar posted... I didnt say that any of that. I just said flat out that I dont support Republicans changing anything to do with birthright citizenship. I dont want it removed right now for exactly that reason. Republicans spent decades on their goal to dismantle Roe v. Wade, the Voting Rights Act, and Affirmative Action. When, in your mind, would Republicans not be a danger in this regard? --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:975076552] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite><quote>I didnt say that any of that. I just said flat out that I dont support Republicans changing anything to do with birthright citizenship. I dont want it removed right now for exactly that reason.</quote>Republicans spent decades on their goal to dismantle Roe v. Wade, the Voting Rights Act, and Affirmative Action. When, in your mind, would Republicans not be a danger in this regard?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SimulationSwarm 07/26/23 1:26:29 PM #63:	Tenlaar shut the fuck up challenge Euripides posted... If we locked Tenlaar and Toonstrack in a room together, who would survive? Im not familiar with Toonstrack. I cant recall seeing anything theyve posted before --- Np: Big Thief - Simulation Swarm <cite>SimulationSwarm posted [p:975077216] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar shut the fuck up challengeEuripides posted... </cite><quote>If we locked Tenlaar and Toonstrack in a room together, who would survive?</quote>Im not familiar with Toonstrack. I cant recall seeing anything theyve posted before </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 07/26/23 1:27:09 PM #64:	SimulationSwarm posted... Tenlaar shut the fuck up challenge Im not familiar with Toonstrack. I cant recall seeing anything theyve posted before Exact same posting style. Makes false claims, gets proven wrong, doubles down, moves goalposts, never admits being wrong --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe <cite>Euripides posted [p:975077229] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>SimulationSwarm posted... </cite><quote>Tenlaar shut the fuck up challengeIm not familiar with Toonstrack. I cant recall seeing anything theyve posted before</quote>Exact same posting style. Makes false claims, gets proven wrong, doubles down, moves goalposts, never admits being wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 07/26/23 1:30:08 PM #65:	CableZL posted... When, in your mind, would Republicans not be a danger in this regard? When they have been ejected from practically every level of public office across the country, which is what needs to happen before we can really tackle any major path-of-the-nation kind of changes like this, dealing with the 2nd amendment so that we can have real effective gun control, actual effective social safety nets, and on and on and on. BurmesePenguin posted... In the context of America it is controversial. Don't act stupid on purpose. I do not accept that jus sanguinis as a policy is reasonable but Republicans should have nothing to do with crafting legislation about it is a controversial position. You want to cut off the back half of my position, its a dishonest thing to do and Id ask that you stop now. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:975077271] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>When, in your mind, would Republicans not be a danger in this regard?</quote>When they have been ejected from practically every level of public office across the country, which is what needs to happen before we can really tackle any major path-of-the-nation kind of changes like this, dealing with the 2nd amendment so that we can have real effective gun control, actual effective social safety nets, and on and on and on.BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>In the context of America it is controversial. Don't act stupid on purpose.</quote>I do not accept that jus sanguinis as a policy is reasonable but Republicans should have nothing to do with crafting legislation about it is a controversial position. You want to cut off the back half of my position, its a dishonest thing to do and Id ask that you stop now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 07/26/23 1:31:15 PM #66:	Euripides posted... Exact same posting style. Makes false claims, gets proven wrong, doubles down, moves goalposts, never admits being wrong What false claims have I made? What have I been proven wrong about? What goalpost have I moved? You are just making things up. Find something better to do. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:975077294] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>Exact same posting style. Makes false claims, gets proven wrong, doubles down, moves goalposts, never admits being wrong</quote>What false claims have I made? What have I been proven wrong about? What goalpost have I moved? You are just making things up. Find something better to do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 07/26/23 1:39:07 PM #67:	It's controversial because it's a needlessly inflammatory position that by your own admission has no relationship to the reality of current, and presumably far future America. So by discussing it you are playing into the hands of people you pretend to find vile by normalizing discussing the matter in a context, that by your own fake position, said effect should not be allowed to take root in. You are effecting a shift of the Overton window to facilitate the rooting of the idea of jus soli while Republicans exist to abuse it. I did not misrepresent anything you said, you're just making shit up as you usually do. --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:975077422] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>It's controversial because it's a needlessly inflammatory position that by your own admission has no relationship to the reality of current, and presumably far future America. So by discussing it you are playing into the hands of people you pretend to find vile by normalizing discussing the matter in a context, that by your own fake position, said effect should not be allowed to take root in. You are effecting a shift of the Overton window to facilitate the rooting of the idea of jus soli while Republicans exist to abuse it. I did not misrepresent anything you said, you're just making shit up as you usually do. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 07/26/23 1:51:52 PM #68:	BurmesePenguin posted... It's controversial because it's a needlessly inflammatory position that by your own admission has no relationship to the reality of current, and presumably far future America. So by discussing it you are playing into the hands of people you pretend to find vile by normalizing discussing the matter in a context, that by your own fake position, said effect should not be allowed to take root in. You are effecting a shift of the Overton window to facilitate the rooting of the idea of jus soli while Republicans exist to abuse it. I did not misrepresent anything you said, you're just making shit up as you usually do. This. Aptly put. My response isn't extreme. The Republican Party is, and as a result, I will not give an inch to even have a thought experiment with it. --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:975077656] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>It's controversial because it's a needlessly inflammatory position that by your own admission has no relationship to the reality of current, and presumably far future America. So by discussing it you are playing into the hands of people you pretend to find vile by normalizing discussing the matter in a context, that by your own fake position, said effect should not be allowed to take root in. You are effecting a shift of the Overton window to facilitate the rooting of the idea of jus soli while Republicans exist to abuse it. I did not misrepresent anything you said, you're just making shit up as you usually do.</quote>This. Aptly put. My response isn't extreme. The Republican Party is, and as a result, I will not give an inch to even have a thought experiment with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Quake-64 07/26/23 1:56:45 PM #69:	Ah yes tenlaar passionately defending Alt right causes. Must be a day ending in -y <cite>Quake-64 posted [p:975077744] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Ah yes tenlaar passionately defending Alt right causes. Must be a day ending in -y</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 07/26/23 3:10:17 PM #70:	What I posted is not inflamatory, you guys are just so primed to inflame over the smallest thing. I wont let you out blame for that on me. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:975079270] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>What I posted is not inflamatory, you guys are just so primed to inflame over the smallest thing. I wont let you out blame for that on me. </cite></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RuneterranSnap 07/26/23 3:11:51 PM #71:	Tenlaar posted... What I posted is not inflamatory, you guys are just so primed to inflame over the smallest thing. I wont let you out blame for that on me. It's on you and you don't get a say in it. Just like you don't get a say in who does and doesn't get citizenship :) --- Joyrock/DSFlashlight/OctilIery <cite>RuneterranSnap posted [p:975079294] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite><quote>What I posted is not inflamatory, you guys are just so primed to inflame over the smallest thing. I wont let you out blame for that on me.</quote>It's on you and you don't get a say in it. Just like you don't get a say in who does and doesn't get citizenship :)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 07/26/23 3:17:59 PM #72:	You just cut out my entire post and focused on an adjective. --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:975079429] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>You just cut out my entire post and focused on an adjective. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mercurydude 07/26/23 3:25:47 PM #73:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... I bet he wouldn't like if we retroactively applied his logic to his colonizer ancestors.... Well, no... these people never like being held to the same standard they want to hold others to. --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast <cite>mercurydude posted [p:975079583] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>RchHomieQuanChi posted... </cite><quote>I bet he wouldn't like if we retroactively applied his logic to his colonizer ancestors....</quote>Well, no... these people never like being held to the same standard they want to hold others to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Quake-64 07/26/23 4:54:56 PM #75:	ScazarMeltex posted... The vast majority of the world also has universal healthcare and no conservative seems to give a fuck about that. Moronic take on other countries aside, what you or Gaetz think isn't fucking relevant in the slightest. The courts have said that birthright citizenship is in the constitution and thus you need an amendment, which isn happening, to change it. Unless you want to further sully SCOTUS legacy by having them overturn it. alt right: I dont care if the rest of the world has health care, stricter gun laws, maternal leave and stuff like that! This is America!! also Alt right: guys! Other countries dont have birthright citizenship! We need to be like them <cite>Quake-64 posted [p:975081335] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>The vast majority of the world also has universal healthcare and no conservative seems to give a fuck about that. Moronic take on other countries aside, what you or Gaetz think isn't fucking relevant in the slightest. The courts have said that birthright citizenship is in the constitution and thus you need an amendment, which isn happening, to change it. Unless you want to further sully SCOTUS legacy by having them overturn it.</quote>alt right: I dont care if the rest of the world has health care, stricter gun laws, maternal leave and stuff like that! This is America!!also Alt right: guys! Other countries dont have birthright citizenship! We need to be like them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 07/26/23 8:45:57 PM #76:	hitokoriX posted... Wait... so they wanna discuss the 14th amendment, which is relatively harmless when compared to the 2nd amendment. But whenever you try and discuss the 2nd amendemnt you basically get death threats Funny how that works. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:975085774] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>hitokoriX posted... </cite><quote>Wait... so they wanna discuss the 14th amendment, which is relatively harmless when compared to the 2nd amendment. But whenever you try and discuss the 2nd amendemnt you basically get death threats</quote>Funny how that works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 07/26/23 8:47:23 PM #77:	Euripides posted... If we locked Tenlaar and Toonstrack in a room together, who would survive? CE. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:975085794] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>If we locked Tenlaar and Toonstrack in a room together, who would survive?</quote>CE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 07/26/23 8:50:08 PM #78:	"'Shall not infringe!' Sorry, libs, it's right there in the Constitution. It's nonnegotiable." - Republicans "Fuck your birthright citizenship." - also Republicans <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:975085855] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>"'Shall not infringe!' Sorry, libs, it's right there in the Constitution. It's nonnegotiable." - Republicans"Fuck your birthright citizenship." - also Republicans </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 07/26/23 8:54:54 PM #79:	darkace77450 posted... "'Shall not infringe!' Sorry, libs, it's right there in the Constitution. It's nonnegotiable." - Republicans "Fuck your birthright citizenship." - also Republicans Same shit they do with the 1st amendment. Or as we've seen with their attacks on the 14th amendment in red states. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:975085975] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>"'Shall not infringe!' Sorry, libs, it's right there in the Constitution. It's nonnegotiable." - Republicans"Fuck your birthright citizenship." - also Republicans</quote>Same shit they do with the 1st amendment.Or as we've seen with their attacks on the 14th amendment in red states. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 07/27/23 8:52:58 AM #80:	ScazarMeltex posted... The vast majority of the world also has universal healthcare and no conservative seems to give a fuck about that. My stance on jus sanguinis vs jus soli is in no way based on what right wingers do or do not support so I dont know what you think youre accomplishing by talking about that like it means anything. Quake-64 posted... alt right: I dont care if the rest of the world has health care, stricter gun laws, maternal leave and stuff like that! This is America!! also Alt right: guys! Other countries dont have birthright citizenship! We need to be like them What alt right person have you seen saying that we should remove birthright citizenship to be like another country? <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:975093419] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>The vast majority of the world also has universal healthcare and no conservative seems to give a fuck about that.</quote>My stance on jus sanguinis vs jus soli is in no way based on what right wingers do or do not support so I dont know what you think youre accomplishing by talking about that like it means anything.Quake-64 posted... </cite><quote>alt right: I dont care if the rest of the world has health care, stricter gun laws, maternal leave and stuff like that! This is America!!also Alt right: guys! Other countries dont have birthright citizenship! We need to be like them</quote>What alt right person have you seen saying that we should remove birthright citizenship to be like another country?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 07/27/23 10:47:15 AM #81:	If only Matt cared as much about WHEN she was born as he does about WHERE she was born... <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:975095027] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>If only Matt cared as much about WHEN she was born as he does about WHERE she was born...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Quake-64 07/27/23 11:18:59 PM #82:	Tenlaar posted... What alt right person have you seen saying that we should remove birthright citizenship to be like another country? you? <cite>Quake-64 posted [p:975108102] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Tenlaar posted... </cite><quote>What alt right person have you seen saying that we should remove birthright citizenship to be like another country?</quote>you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 07/28/23 7:26:13 AM #83:	Quake-64 posted... you? My mistake for giving you the benefit of the doubt in the other thread where you asked about people lying about my beliefs, here you are calling me alt right in a thread where Im saying that Republicans cant be trusted to craft any legislation and should be ejected from every level of public office. Id ask you to have even the slightest bit of integrity but it feels like a waste of effort. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:975111995] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Quake-64 posted... </cite><quote>you?</quote>My mistake for giving you the benefit of the doubt in the other thread where you asked about people lying about my beliefs, here you are calling me alt right in a thread where Im saying that Republicans cant be trusted to craft any legislation and should be ejected from every level of public office. Id ask you to have even the slightest bit of integrity but it feels like a waste of effort. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 07/28/23 7:37:06 AM #84:	"You can't be charged with what happens with a non US citizen, right?" Matt Gaetz, probably --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:975112099] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>"You can't be charged with what happens with a non US citizen, right?" Matt Gaetz, probably</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 07/28/23 7:42:16 AM #85:	RuneterranSnap posted... Yes there is. If someone is born here they are a citizen. End of story. If I see someone trying to remove someone from a country they've lived in their entire life, I'm putting a stop to it and I'll be right to do so. To be honest, you should be allowed to be a citizen of wherever the fuck you want, unless something about your conduct warrants excluding you from that. <cite>Glob posted [p:975112147] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>RuneterranSnap posted... </cite><quote>Yes there is.If someone is born here they are a citizen. End of story. If I see someone trying to remove someone from a country they've lived in their entire life, I'm putting a stop to it and I'll be right to do so.</quote>To be honest, you should be allowed to be a citizen of wherever the fuck you want, unless something about your conduct warrants excluding you from that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 07/28/23 8:49:45 AM #86:	Glob posted... To be honest, you should be allowed to be a citizen of wherever the fuck you want, unless something about your conduct warrants excluding you from that. Lol --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:975112802] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite><quote>To be honest, you should be allowed to be a citizen of wherever the fuck you want, unless something about your conduct warrants excluding you from that.</quote>Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 07/28/23 8:50:41 AM #87:	BurmesePenguin posted... Lol Whats so funny? The criteria thats used is pretty arbitrary. <cite>Glob posted [p:975112810] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>Lol</quote>Whats so funny?The criteria thats used is pretty arbitrary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 07/28/23 8:52:51 AM #88:	Its leftist cringe to claim countries shouldnt have control of which foreigners get citizenship. Im assuming this is part of an overarching no borders derp philosophy. --- Sigful User Logic <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:975112832] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Its leftist cringe to claim countries shouldnt have control of which foreigners get citizenship.Im assuming this is part of an overarching no borders derp philosophy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 07/28/23 8:56:24 AM #89:	BurmesePenguin posted... Its leftist cringe to claim countries shouldnt have control of which foreigners get citizenship. Im assuming this is part of an overarching no borders derp philosophy. Hey, Im up for them choosing if one of the criteria isnt you were born here so youre okay. Like I said in my initial post, if something about your conduct warrants excluding you, such as a conviction for violent crimes, then thats fine. Its just all a bit redundant to treat peoples birthplace like some kind of accomplishment. <cite>Glob posted [p:975112877] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>Its leftist cringe to claim countries shouldnt have control of which foreigners get citizenship.Im assuming this is part of an overarching no borders derp philosophy.</quote>Hey, Im up for them choosing if one of the criteria isnt you were born here so youre okay.Like I said in my initial post, if something about your conduct warrants excluding you, such as a conviction for violent crimes, then thats fine.Its just all a bit redundant to treat peoples birthplace like some kind of accomplishment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 07/29/23 7:16:42 AM #90:	Don't even engage him on why we don't want to engage him. He's had these arguments before (both immigration and his trolling), he's trying to waste your time and energy. --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:975131895] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Don't even engage him on why we don't want to engage him. He's had these arguments before (both immigration and his trolling), he's trying to waste your time and energy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 07/29/23 7:23:10 AM #91:	I wouldn't say it's inherently necessary to have it, but it's also so low on the totem pole of issues that we shouldn't even be talking about it for like 30 years until all the other shit in this country is fixed. <cite>Nemu posted [p:975131940] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't say it's inherently necessary to have it, but it's also so low on the totem pole of issues that we shouldn't even be talking about it for like 30 years until all the other shit in this country is fixed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 07/29/23 7:37:55 AM #92:	BurmesePenguin posted... Its leftist cringe to claim countries shouldnt have control of which foreigners get citizenship. Im assuming this is part of an overarching no borders derp philosophy. "open borders" isn't a position held by anyone who exists outside of right wing propaganda. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975132045] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>Its leftist cringe to claim countries shouldnt have control of which foreigners get citizenship.Im assuming this is part of an overarching no borders derp philosophy.</quote>"open borders" isn't a position held by anyone who exists outside of right wing propaganda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/29/23 7:39:09 AM #93:	Dark_Arbron posted... "open borders" isn't a position held by anyone who exists outside of right wing propaganda. Shut up. I believe in open borders, fully. --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:975132060] in Matt Gaetz... [t:80519755]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>"open borders" isn't a position held by anyone who exists outside of right wing propaganda.</quote>Shut up. I believe in open borders, fully. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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