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Avirosb
05/30/23 4:43:39 AM
#204:


Autism is a spectrum.

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BurmesePenguin
05/30/23 4:44:29 AM
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Who is this Capital Letters and Numbers account? Never seen her before but the account is neglected and old and the last week or so she's been incredibly combative and antagonistic in any topic I've seen her in.

I'd say based on behavior that it's Rebel, but that doesn't seem like it makes sense.

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CSCA33
05/30/23 4:46:22 AM
#206:


BurmesePenguin posted...
Who is this Capital Letters and Numbers account? Never seen him before but the account is neglected and old and the last week or so he's been incredibly combative and antagonistic in any topic I've seen him in.

I'd say based on behavior that it's Rebel, but that doesn't seem like it makes sense.
She. Its in my signature but Im guessing you already know that.

Ive been posting regularly for years, mostly on 261. CE is a cesspool that needs to be cleaned up.

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BurmesePenguin
05/30/23 4:47:19 AM
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CSCA33 posted...
She. Its in my signature but Im guessing you already know that.

BurmesePenguin posted...
incredibly combative and antagonistic


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CSCA33
05/30/23 4:47:59 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Insults? Ill call out bigotry and transphobia when I see it, and its aplenty in these parts. Have you even read the thread? Multiple other posters called it out as well. Please drop the disingenuous strawmans, this is borderline shitposting.

He didnt apologize, he asked how to rephrase smearing trans women as rapists. Thats a total non-apology if you ask me.

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CSCA33
05/30/23 5:05:09 AM
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Yes, I will make that judgement call because it affects me and my community, and what he said with that non-apology is demonstrably harmful.

You can kindly fuck off with defending this bullshit and trying to hand-wave away calling attention to harm as insults. This is gaslighting.

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viewmaster_pi
05/30/23 6:29:16 AM
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CSCA33 posted...
CE is a cesspool that needs to be cleaned up.
oh my god, fuck off to resetera already, you are obviously incapable of socializing with people here, even after those who've slighted you have been punished and apologized. obviously nothing's good enough, and it's clear that you WANT to be mad at someone, you WANT an excuse to take swings at whoever and call it punching up, call it a crusade, whatever. if CE's so bad, then just fucking remove yourself from it to everyone's benefit

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CSCA33
05/30/23 6:38:27 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
oh my god, fuck off to resetera already, you are obviously incapable of socializing with people here, even after those who've slighted you have been punished and apologized. obviously nothing's good enough, and it's clear that you WANT to be mad at someone, you WANT an excuse to take swings at whoever and call it punching up, call it a crusade, whatever. if CE's so bad, then just fucking remove yourself from it to everyone's benefit
Is gaslighting all you have? The only time any apology was made was towards the beginning of the original convo in the other thread, while simultaneously asking for a different way to rephrase the same sentiment. He then continued to spout transphobic bigotry and never backed down from it, and still has not as of this writing, or shown any genuine contrition or understanding. All Ive read is excuse after excuse for being transphobic.

You dont get to just sweep that under the rug while circling around on your high horse defending said bigotry, and expect not to get called out and gaslight people about it.

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viewmaster_pi
05/30/23 6:51:21 AM
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sometimes you're not being gaslighted, sometimes you've actually just become an insufferable person who's inflicting themselves onto the people around you and you need to know when you've pushed as far as you can before the rubberband snaps back. some people supported you, now some people are saying you've gone on about it long enough. i know enough about Heart to say he's well within general LGBT "ally" territory, but even so, people are dynamic, they don't operate within a hivemind, and they can hold opinions that don't align perfectly with what you think a perfect true ally should think. if you can't accept that and only want to surround yourself with your perfect idea of allies, then just go to resetera and stop contributing to the CEsspool (lol)

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CSCA33
05/30/23 6:58:33 AM
#216:


viewmaster_pi posted...
sometimes you're not being gaslighted, sometimes you've actually just become an insufferable person who's inflicting themselves onto the people around you and you need to know when you've pushed as far as you can before the rubberband snaps back. some people supported you, now some people are saying you've gone on about it long enough. i know enough about Heart to say he's well within general LGBT "ally" territory, but even so, people are dynamic, they don't operate within a hivemind, and they can hold opinions that don't align perfectly with what you think a perfect true ally should think. if you can't accept that and only want to surround yourself with your perfect idea of allies, then just go to resetera and stop contributing to the CEsspool (lol)
Excuse you, Im not sitting here replying to myself or creating new topics about it out of the blue, nor was I the person who decided to shut down 261.

Furthermore, espousing bigotry and promoting persecution of a vulnerable and marginalized minority group is not an opinion. An opinion is whether or not you like pineapple on your pizza.

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viewmaster_pi
05/30/23 7:16:17 AM
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CSCA33 posted...
Furthermore, espousing bigotry and promoting persecution of a vulnerable and marginalized minority group is not an opinion.
that's your interpretation of what he said, and sometimes your interpretation of things isn't actually reality, and i know that's a rough one to get your hands around

as an aside, if i were of a racial minority that's experienced years, or centuries of discrimination, both violent and otherwise, i'd feel a bit patronized at trans people using terms like marginalized minority to frame their plight as if they're sharing the same umbrella. but that's just my perception* of that, after all

*i mean interpretation

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CSCA33
05/30/23 7:23:45 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
that's your interpretation of what he said, and sometimes your interpretation of things isn't actually reality, and i know that's a rough one to get your hands around

as an aside, if i were of a racial minority that's experienced years, or centuries of discrimination, both violent and otherwise, i'd feel a bit patronized at trans people using terms like marginalized minority to frame their plight as if they're sharing the same umbrella. but that's just my perception of that, after all
You say this as if conservatives arent actively attempting to genocide trans people.

Trans people are over four times more likely to experience violent victimization, including rape and sexual assault, and trans women on average earn less money than cisgender women comparative to the disparity between them and cis men. Trans people are among the lowest paid LGBTQ+ people in the US. Our mere existence is entirely illegal in many countries around the world.

One in two trans people have been sexually assaulted at some point in their lives.

Please tell me more how its offensive to say were marginalized.

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viewmaster_pi
05/30/23 7:28:33 AM
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fuck it, why mince words? let me roll it out and staple it down:

it is disingenuous as fuck to compare the treatment one gets over their gender identity to the treatment racial minorities have gotten and will sadly continue to get over the color of their skin.

it's like "how do you do, fellow minorities?" and it doesn't seem right

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CSCA33
05/30/23 7:30:49 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
fuck it, why mince words? let me roll it out and staple it down:

it is disingenuous as fuck to compare the treatment one gets over their gender identity to the treatment racial minorities have gotten and will sadly continue to get over the color of their skin.

it's like "how do you do, fellow minorities?" and it doesn't seem right
Youre the only person here so far who made any such comparison, and did so to denigrate and downplay the hardships trans people face just for existing.

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viewmaster_pi
05/30/23 7:40:59 AM
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CSCA33 posted...
Youre the only person here so far who made any such comparison
only to explain why i think using terms like that carries an inherent comparison, intentional or not

CSCA33 posted...
and did so to denigrate and downplay the hardships trans people face just for existing.
see, there's that quickfire judgment people were getting on you about. i'm of course not saying the treatment trans people get is right or justified or shouldn't be changed, rather that it just seems like a low scoop to use certain keywords to squeeze into the "affected by systemic racism" category

but if that's not the intent, then alright

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VeggetaX
05/30/23 7:43:18 AM
#222:


Hey I'm the most oppressed person in this topic.

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viewmaster_pi
05/30/23 7:46:13 AM
#223:


VeggetaX posted...
Hey I'm the most oppressed person in this topic.
as a gamer, naturally

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CSCA33
05/30/23 7:51:23 AM
#224:


No, I dont think Ill stop referring to a vulnerable and marginalized minority group as such. Theres nothing inaccurate or misleading about that whatsoever. Its also pretty blatantly offensive you would suggest otherwise or pit minorities against each other in oppression Olympics.

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viewmaster_pi
05/30/23 7:58:17 AM
#225:


i'm not telling you what to say or stop saying, just how what you say and how you say it affect my perception of the points you want to make. if you don't think you're doing anything wrong since this thread started, well... ok

CSCA33 posted...
pit minorities against each other in oppression Olympics
and this is just gross, straight up malicious words you're putting in my mouth. you don't have to agree with or like what i say, but that doesn't mean i'm out to do harm

and with that, we've come full circle to what Heart said to kick this all off

and i ain't startin lap 2

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ArsGoetia
05/30/23 8:05:47 AM
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CSCA33 posted...
She. Its in my signature but Im guessing you already know that.

Ive been posting regularly for years, mostly on 261. CE is a cesspool that needs to be cleaned up.

You can't.

Seriously, new moderators are only chosen a few times a year, and the minimum requirements for applying are very steep. Even so, hundreds apply, but only a few are selected. If you seriously want to be a moderator, you'll likely (but not always) need to have a history on GameFAQs that makes you recognizable to the majority of the user-base for several years to even be considered. Pestering the current moderators or admins to become a moderator essentially guarantees that you won't be selected.
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greenjeans
05/30/23 8:19:26 AM
#228:


Saying "I'm more oppressed than you" like this seems strange
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VeggetaX
05/30/23 8:24:06 AM
#229:


greenjeans posted...
Saying "I'm more oppressed than you" like this seems strange
At least I'm direct and blunt about it. Not tryna skirt around "if or maybe but yeah I really am the victim" bullshit you guys see way too often on here.

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greenjeans
05/30/23 8:24:43 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
At least I'm direct and blunt about it. Not tryna skirt around "if or maybe but yeah I really am the victim" bullshit you guys see way too often on here.
Not you lol
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viewmaster_pi
05/30/23 8:28:15 AM
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greenjeans posted...
Not you lol
then quote what you're responding to instead of just saying "like this"

anyway, if you mean anything i said, i haven't said i'm oppressed at all, that'd be delusional

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greenjeans
05/30/23 10:01:36 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
then quote what you're responding to instead of just saying "like this"

anyway, if you mean anything i said, i haven't said i'm oppressed at all, that'd be delusional
You didn't? I must've misread sorry
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05/30/23 10:09:40 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/0/AAfRsCAAEgaS.jpg

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Ryangrad
05/30/23 10:28:34 AM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
and this is just gross, straight up malicious words you're putting in my mouth.
Which is precisely what she did with Heart. I don't really feel like it, but if anyone really can't find the thread to see what was actually said in the end, I'll post screen caps if they need it to see how much of a disingenuous person she is.

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CSCA33
05/30/23 1:27:02 PM
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ArsGoetia posted...
You can't.

Seriously, new moderators are only chosen a few times a year, and the minimum requirements for applying are very steep. Even so, hundreds apply, but only a few are selected. If you seriously want to be a moderator, you'll likely (but not always) need to have a history on GameFAQs that makes you recognizable to the majority of the user-base for several years to even be considered. Pestering the current moderators or admins to become a moderator essentially guarantees that you won't be selected.
Lol just no

I wouldnt agree to that even if they offered me a salary. Been there, done that. No thank you.

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CSCA33
05/30/23 1:42:52 PM
#238:


Ryangrad posted...
Which is precisely what she did with Heart. I don't really feel like it, but if anyone really can't find the thread to see what was actually said in the end, I'll post screen caps if they need it to see how much of a disingenuous person she is.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

A handful of users already tagged for being transphobic trolls or creepy posts, patting each other on the back does not make a very convincing case. Ive not lied here at all.

Lol screen caps, I linked the OT myself. Read the thread before posting.


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masterpug53
05/30/23 2:10:44 PM
#240:


Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that this CSCA person is such a cliched self-important zealot that there's a decent chance she's doing it ironically / concern-trolling.

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CSCA33
05/30/23 2:10:49 PM
#241:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Im well aware as I was there. None of that helps your case or his, nor does it refute what Ive said.

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CSCA33
05/30/23 2:31:02 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

The posts speak for themselves dude. I even posted time will tell if he actually learned anything before he came back, as I dont have anything personal against him, but clearly he didnt.

Most people already dug into their bigoted beliefs continue dig themselves deeper though.

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VeggetaX
05/30/23 5:07:08 PM
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Until she takes offense from another user and then here we go again.

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CSCA33
05/30/23 5:09:22 PM
#246:


VeggetaX posted...
Until she takes offense from another user and then here we go again.
Its not my fault they doubled down on a transphobic sentiment, and none of the other numerous posters who agreed with me before are disagreeing now. This was a shit show from start to finish and some folks who didnt even have a dog in the race cant let it go. Its been rehashed ad nauseam and theyre running in circles flailing wildly.

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Ryangrad
05/30/23 5:25:01 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

But being dishonest in what was said. He asked if not disclosing would be considered rape by deception? Naturally everyone's reaction was to tell him how awful that it. He needed it explained to him that the question itself, not just the wording, was inappropriate because it painted trans folks as rapists. He apologized and said he didn't realize the implications of his question. The only thing he said "agree to disagree" with was when asking royic if he considered psychological harm as pertinent information. Royic then explained that only if you know that having sex with a particular person would harm them psychologically, you should tell them. But otherwise it's on the person with the weird hangups to be up front about it.

At that point CSCA33 took the "agree to disagree" part from his conversation with royic and said he was still implying trans people are rapists.

Again, if you haven't read it I can make you screen shots so you can see for yourself.

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CSCA33
05/30/23 5:49:50 PM
#248:


The sentiment that its something wrong or bad never changed. That he wasnt using the r - word anymore is not particularly relevant because the conversation wouldve ended there anyway. The apology was a quick sorry, how should I word it then? And the sentiment itself that remained.

Ive not been dishonest in what was said, the posts are all there and in this thread too, which some people either havent read for more context, or theyre outright disingenuous shitposting transphobic trolls whom I have no obligation either way because they cant be arsed to read before replying.

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ironman2009
05/30/23 5:50:53 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/1/4/AAa0vfAAEPru.jpg

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CSCA33
05/30/23 5:52:04 PM
#250:


Mods should just lock this thread already.

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Jennywentnorth8
05/30/23 6:00:53 PM
#251:


CSCA33 posted...
Mods should just lock this thread already.

You certainly need it apparently.
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PiOverlord
05/30/23 6:12:12 PM
#252:


Just hide the thread mate. It's not that hard.

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CSCA33
05/30/23 6:13:40 PM
#253:


PiOverlord posted...
Just hide the thread mate. It's not that hard.
Lol, maybe tell that to the shitposters who just want to drag names through the mud instead.

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