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Calwings
05/25/23 7:02:07 PM
#1:


Tonight, a new champion will be crowned!

https://iili.io/HrFm4Ox.jpg

Only eight bots remain in contention, but which one will win the tournament and take home the Giant Nut? As a reminder, please put any discussion of match results under spoiler tags until 24 hours after the episode airs out of consideration for people who can't watch the episode live, especially if you decide to watch the episode early on Discovery+ before it airs on TV. Showtime is about an hour away, but it's never too soon for me to drop a preemptive fuck Riptide before the show.

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KFHEWUI
05/25/23 7:03:48 PM
#2:


Minotaur! Minotaur! Minotaur! Minotaur!

Proving ground this weekend.

https://twitter.com/BattleBots/status/1660767543542403072?cxt=HHwWgMC-9YPSnYwuAAAA

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ANort175
05/25/23 7:08:33 PM
#3:


If Minotaur or Huge don't take it I'll be really surprised, just please for the love of Rusty don't let Riptide win.

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Starks
05/25/23 7:19:44 PM
#4:


A changing of the guard and the meta. Sawblaze defeats huge.

Fantastic fights.

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Calwings
05/25/23 7:20:52 PM
#5:


ANort175 posted...
If Minotaur or Huge don't take it I'll be really surprised, just please for the love of Rusty don't let Riptide win.

I'm in full "anyone but Riptide" mode at this point because I genuinely despite them. Huge (for their unique anti-meta design) and Hydra (for being the only non-spinner left) are the two that I'm cheering for the most, but I like all of the bots left in the field besides Riptide. I can't remember if I already said it in one of the previous topics, but I'll make it clear now: if Riptide wins this tournament or if they're allowed back next season after all of the drama and all of the unsportsmanlike bullshit they've brought to the show, then I won't be watching BattleBots anymore going forward. They're bad for the sport, plain and simple.

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Starks
05/25/23 7:23:58 PM
#6:


Sawblaze is an amazing bot. I have not seen enough credible counters to the dustpan. That Huge config was amazing.

And I'm not mad about Riptide losing like that. I don't think driving mattered that much.

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Calwings
05/25/23 8:03:44 PM
#7:


IT'S ROBOT FIGHTIN' TIME! The quarterfinals begin with the top seed Minotaur vs. Sawblaze

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Calwings
05/25/23 8:29:18 PM
#8:


Another top seed goes down and HUUUUUUUUUUUGE moves on!

In other news, Ethan Kurtz of Team Riptide tested positive for COVID and wasn't available for the fights tonight. So even if Riptide loses, we don't even get the satisfaction of bitch boy Ethan getting put in his place and having to watch his robot get destroyed. Plus, the *asterisk* of Ethan not being there might give the production staff an excuse to possibly bring the team back next season. I assume he recovered okay (since he's commented on social media while this season was airing) but fucking hell, this is stupid.

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Calwings
05/25/23 8:46:51 PM
#9:


Another top seed goes down! After a staring contest for the ages in the first minute, Ribbot takes control of the fight and gets their revenge on Hydra, the bot that took them out of the tournament last year. From 1-3 in the regular season to making the final 4 of the tournament... can the Cinderella run continue, or will Sawblaze cook the frog the same way they cooked the bull?

Next up is the last quarterfinal, Riptide (fuck Riptide) vs. Copperhead.

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Calwings
05/25/23 9:05:56 PM
#10:


Holy shit, what a fight! Riptide's weapon gets split in half, Copperhead loses a wheel, Riptide's substitute driver puts up a hell of a fight right up until the end, but the fight goes to the judges and the split decision goes to Copperhead! GET FUCKED, RIPTIDE!

Ethan, I wish you a speedy recovery from COVID, but then I hope you stub your toe in the most painful way possible.

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DuneMan
05/25/23 9:08:20 PM
#11:


Well, it'll be a while before I can watch, but I suppose the number 1 seed stands a good chance since they deserve that seeding.

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Calwings
05/25/23 9:42:31 PM
#12:


Ribbot was sliced and diced into a nice dish of frog legs, and Copperhead couldn't chop down the mighty redwood that is Huge. And with that, the final is set! Sawblaze vs. Huge for the Giant Nut is up next, and that pre-fight hype video went hard too!

Also, Team Riptide appealed their loss to Copperhead, and all it did was turn the decision from a split one to a unanimous one. Lol. Lmao, even.

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Starks
05/25/23 9:43:00 PM
#13:


The lesson is to have a proper backup driver or actually have friends in the pits who could help.

But again, not a driving loss. Copperhead is so damn durable.

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Compsognathus
05/25/23 10:11:56 PM
#14:


What a final fight. I think Sawblaze should take it but man it's close.


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Compsognathus
05/25/23 10:19:31 PM
#15:


Sawblaze!



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Calwings
05/25/23 10:20:22 PM
#16:


Your winner, and newwwwwwwwwwww BattleBots World Champion: Sawblaze!! With some unique modifications, a well-controlled battle, and a huge gash in Huge's face, Sawblaze wins the judge's decision and Jamison Go raises the Giant Nut with his team for the first time!

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ANort175
05/25/23 11:02:13 PM
#17:


Jamison Go is a surgeon with that weapon of his, set two bots in a row on fire by hitting them right in their batteries, then breaks one of Huge's weapon chains which really changed the course of the fight, just incredible. What a well deserved win for team Sawblaze, they've really come a long way from how they used to be, great to see something other than a vertical spinner win the giant nut again.

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NightRender
05/25/23 11:21:02 PM
#18:


Team Huge a real class act for not appealing. Basically one last #fuckriptide to end the season.

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Compsognathus
05/25/23 11:49:27 PM
#19:


NightRender posted...
Team Huge a real class act for not appealing. Basically one last #fuckriptide to end the season.
The appeal would have been meaningless since the judges already basically went through the extra procedures they do during appeal


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LostForest
05/26/23 12:32:14 AM
#20:


Returned to CE for the first time in months just to post! MAN, that was one of the awesomest finals run-up I've ever seen! Legitimately could've rooted for any of the final four.

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ANort175
05/26/23 8:49:20 AM
#21:


Yeah that season as a whole was probably the best yet, even with Riptide kinda muddying the waters a bit, letting us know every team's fight schedule in advance was a great move and that "crab walking" rule change really made fights a lot more engaging. Can't wait for the 2nd gold bolt tournament.

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Jennywentnorth8
05/26/23 5:47:40 PM
#22:


My jimmies definitely rustled about the whole Riptide thing, feels like I have been edged all season just to get denied watching him finally lose, but other that great episode and Sawblaze deserved the win.
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KFHEWUI
05/26/23 7:55:11 PM
#23:


Minotaur is such a beast! Even with it on fire, it did a ton of damage and in, all honestly, it looked stronger while on fire.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/4/9/AAKYEFAAEg2t.jpg


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Aztex
05/26/23 8:03:04 PM
#24:


Are these put on discovery? They merged with HBO and I can finally see it. Do they upload the episodes the next day after airing on tv?

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KFHEWUI
05/26/23 8:03:45 PM
#25:


Bruh!

Chris and Kenny actually talked to Ethan after the fight and the one thing I remember Ethan saying was we would have won if I were driving. Yeah dude dont thank Felix for taking over or compliment him on doing a good job staying in the for the full fight. Just say you wouldve won if you were driving. .

https://battlebotsupdate.com/battlebots-s12-e19/

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Calwings
05/26/23 8:07:58 PM
#26:


Aztex posted...
Are these put on discovery? They merged with HBO and I can finally see it. Do they upload the episodes the next day after airing on tv?

The episodes usually went up on Discovery+ earlier in the day before the TV airing on Discovery channel, hence the comment I always make about D+ in the opening post. As for MAX, apparently the episodes just got uploaded there today based on this post on the subreddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlebots/comments/13sobp2/just_a_psa_battlebots_is_now_up_on_max_the_new/

EDIT: Yes, it's on MAX now, see the link below. It's missing the first 2 seasons that aired on ABC (before ABC dropped it and Discovery picked it up, the ABC seasons were pretty scuffed anyways so you're not really missing much) but it has all 5 Discovery seasons as well as the BattleBots Champions subseries that aired between seasons 6 and 7.

https://www.max.com/shows/79ad906a-05ef-43fb-a566-479dd1232d44

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Aztex
05/26/23 8:26:35 PM
#27:


Thanks I used to have to check TikTok/YouTube/Instagram to get caught up and just watch highlights now I can see everything

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TomYo
05/26/23 8:43:43 PM
#28:


Gonna look at this later! Should be fun.
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Compsognathus
05/26/23 9:39:53 PM
#29:


KFHEWUI posted...
Bruh!

https://battlebotsupdate.com/battlebots-s12-e19/
He's just the fucking worst.

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DuneMan
05/27/23 12:19:04 AM
#30:


Did anyone catch the part of the season recap montage when they showed the pit area reacting to the winner of the fight between Riptide and Copperhead? You'd think everyone there won the Giant Nut with how much they were jumping for joy.

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Calwings
05/27/23 1:31:33 AM
#31:


DuneMan posted...
Did anyone catch the part of the season recap montage when they showed the pit area reacting to the winner of the fight between Riptide and Copperhead? You'd think everyone there won the Giant Nut with how much they were jumping for joy.

Apparently, according to someone who was there in the pits at the tapings, that huge cheering reaction from the pits wasn't even reacting to Copperhead knocking out Riptide. It was reacting to Riptide's appeal getting denied to seal their loss, as an additional "fuck you" to the team.

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlebots/comments/13s0usy/comment/jlnh35u/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

But yeah, Team Copperhead got a hero's reception backstage after that win, and they deserved it. The snake slayed the monster.

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KFHEWUI
05/27/23 11:38:04 AM
#32:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/8/AAKYEFAAEg_I.jpg

Voting is open for best driver, rookie, and fight.

I'm torn on the fight... Sawblaze vs Minotaur was fantastic but Copperhead vs Riptide is *chef's kiss*

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeS17yRn7otoPj5qSkry-5BRMJNoLbjDqyN5jnHj80005Xhnw/viewform

In this year's Final Week, the following teams will visit the Battlebots subreddit for an AMA:

Friday May 26th, 7pm ET: SawBlaze
Saturday May 27th, 7pm PT: DeathRoll
Sunday May 28th, 6pm ET: Minotaur
Monday May 29th, 6pm MT: Copperhead
Tuesday May 30th, 7pm ET: HUGE
Wednesday May 31st, 7pm ET: Ribbot
Friday June 2nd, 6pm PT: The Battlebots Judges (Lisa Winters, Derek Young & Fon Davis)

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PiOverlord
05/28/23 1:17:08 AM
#33:


Honestly, best season by far. I know you all hated Riptide, but the fights themselves were fun. Still, I was saying it the whole season, we know Riptide can hit hard, but can it be hit hard? Someone with a good weapon needed to just not try to outdrive Riptide and instead just hit it and see who's more durable. Glad Copperhead realized that.

And finally, a final fight that feels pretty darn close (even if it was still soundly SawBlaze by the end). Not to mention, two unique bots. SawBlaze is one of my favorites (top 3 at least with Witch Doctor and Hydra), so seeing them win was very enjoyable. Couldn't have been a better team to win it. I was picking them in every fight today (and honestly, the only potential matchups that I would have picked someone else would have been if they fought Hydra. WD would have been a toss-up for me considering their history). Glad HUGE could finally shake things up like it was always meant to, and I hope this season gives the team the HUGE boost they needed.

But yeah, what a season. Can't wait for next year!!!

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TomYo
05/28/23 2:37:02 AM
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Is there a link to somewhere I can watch this?
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Machete
05/28/23 2:48:11 AM
#35:


I was disappointed that Uppercut was not in this season. I don't why that happened but I've met the main person on that team and while I don't know him personally, he's the buddy of a former boss...

Good final though. I loved that the top 4 seeds made it to the final 8. I also kinda thought it was awesome that they all lost lol, even though I was actively rooting for Witch Doctor and Hydra... and actually Riptide too. I can't even remember the 1 seed lol.

Huge making the final was awesome. I've been a fan since it debuted. I love seeing out of the box designs like that... and now we got fuckin copycats like Stardust or whatever. Credit to Sawblaze though. That was an exciting finale and the decision was correct imo. Good for Sawblaze and for the "hammer-saw" weapon system in general. Huge already has a copycat. Sawblaze I predict will have more next year.

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Machete
05/28/23 2:49:18 AM
#36:


TomYo posted...
Is there a link to somewhere I can watch this?

I don't have a link but you can watch it on Discovery, Discovery+ and HBO Max if you have any of those


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TomYo
05/28/23 2:50:12 AM
#37:


Machete posted...
I don't have a link but you can watch it on Discovery, Discovery+ and HBO Max if you have any of those
I do have HBO max, I'll check there.
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Machete
05/28/23 3:01:40 AM
#38:


TomYo posted...
I do have HBO max, I'll check there.

nice! I actually found it there by accident. I already had HBO max but I never officially signed up for it. I spent like a half hour trying to get in (my own fault). When I did finally get in, all the sign up shit was easy. A few episodes had been missing in my normal cable shit but HBO had them so I watched them there and caught up.

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KFHEWUI
05/29/23 1:39:28 PM
#39:


Copperhead returning to the pits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjTaIQmGfQY

Sawblaze is selling the blade that was used in the Minotaur fight, and they are going to autograph it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlebots/comments/13uf8xx/buy_you_a_sawblaze_saw/

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/3/6/AAKYEFAAEhVw.jpg

Reese named on of the kittens Charizard.

Message from Blacksmith.

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KFHEWUI
05/29/23 1:49:48 PM
#40:


That proving that was this weekend, turns out Snakebyte could not make so instead they were replaced by Overkill.

Upcoming schedule...

  • June 3: Horizon vs. Doom
  • June 4: Horizon vs. Doom
  • July 1: Maximum Paralysis vs. Travis T.
  • July 2: Maximum Paralysis vs. Travis T.
  • July 6 Gigabyte vs DOOM
  • July 8 Gigabyte vs Slammo
  • July 9 Gigabyte vs Jackpot
  • July 22: Mudhole Bullfrog vs. Pinchpoint
  • July 23: Mudhole Bullfrog vs. Pinchpoint

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PiOverlord
05/29/23 7:49:44 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Tbf, every bot builder has said that the scales are really really finicky after that comment was made. No offense, but I don't think Team Shatter really should have brought that up (or at least, BB editing shouldn't have brought that point up).

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PiOverlord
05/29/23 9:03:50 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Yeah, that they did. Tbh, I think Ethan is a victim more than anything.

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Calwings
05/29/23 9:23:04 PM
#46:


PiOverlord posted...
Yeah, that they did. Tbh, I think Ethan is a victim more than anything.

I couldn't disagree more. Maybe in a vacuum, it seemed like Team Shatter may have made a bigger deal out of the weighing and the missing 2 pounds than was necessary. But Ethan and Team Riptide built up a long list of disrespectful, shady, or unsportsmanlike behavior even before that. They built themselves a bad reputation, and accusations like that happen when you have a bad reputation. Team Shatter had every reason to believe Team Riptide may have been cheating given their reputation, and they were breaking a rule by modifying their bot after the weigh-in.

At the very least, I hope this Riptide situation leads to the creation of a very thorough Code of Conduct for the next season, with clearer rules and consequences for unsportsmanlike behaviors like the ones Team Riptide did this season. That should be the bare minimum result of all this.

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PiOverlord
05/29/23 9:32:22 PM
#47:


Sorry, I misspoke. Team Shatter had the right to speak out about Riptide (although I do think the 2 pounds comment was a little unnecessary), and I wasn't referring to that. I meant more so, while many others are on the spectrum like Ethan is, I couldn't think of a worse dad someone on the spectrum could have than the one he has. He will never have the support he truly needs, which is sad.

I wasn't meaning, in any way, that he was a victim of battlebots.

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Calwings
05/29/23 9:43:48 PM
#48:


PiOverlord posted...
I meant more so, while many others are on the spectrum like Ethan is, I couldn't think of a worse dad someone on the spectrum could have than the one he has. He will never have the support he truly needs, which is sad.

Right, that's true, good point. Stan Kurtz is definitely a scumbag for peddling his fake autism cures and flinging around "vaccines cause autism" misinformation like Riptide flings bots around the arena, and I do feel bad for Ethan in that regard. That being said, I have a brother who's also on the spectrum, he hates Team Riptide for their unsportsmanlike actions, and he hates seeing people online defending them using "but he's on the spectrum" as an excuse for Ethan's behavior. Using that as an excuse to defend Team Riptide's actions is basically spitting in the face of anyone else who's on the spectrum because of Stan Kurtz and the harm that he's done.

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Calwings
05/29/23 9:56:58 PM
#49:


Anyways, before this topic gets too off-track and ends up getting locked due to this whole Riptide stuff, here's some much better news:

https://mech-plus.com/

For people looking for more robot combat action to watch while BattleBots is in its offseason, this is a new website that has the entire library of UK Robot Wars (7 seasons and a few side series from the original era in the early 2000's, plus all 3 seasons of the modern reboot from 2016-2018) available to watch. You can watch free with ads, or pay 20 euros (about $25 USD) for a year's worth of ad-free access. The site also has a season of China's This Is Fighting Robots competition and some other various programming revolving around robotics and technology, but the main appeal is obviously the Robot Wars library.

I grew up with Robot Wars as a kid, so this would be a huge wave of nostalgia for me. And for some of you guys who either didn't watch robot combat in the early days or grew up with the original BattleBots instead of Robot Wars, it might be interesting for you guys to see what the sport was like on the other side of the pond, because there are quite a few differences between the two.

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DuneMan
05/29/23 10:33:08 PM
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^
Watch Apollo get flipping performance that Blip dreams of achieving.

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