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gmanthebest
05/25/23 7:15:55 PM
#153:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Plus the witnesses.
In OP's article, it's just the family talking. His friends weren't questioned on it

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Zonbei
05/25/23 7:17:10 PM
#154:


gmanthebest posted...
Where's the proof that the bike was in his hands when she got on? I'll wait

Wheres the proof it wasnt? Ill wait.

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 7:18:47 PM
#155:


gmanthebest posted...
In OP's article, it's just the family talking. His friends weren't questioned on it
They were in the video.

Learn when to quit man.

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KanWan
05/25/23 7:18:48 PM
#156:


The fairest thing a judge can do is call the lady a Karen and open a go-fund me for the half-men

Lady gets her money but also loses
Half-men get shiny new bikes for travel

Im open to suggestions tbh

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thronedfire2
05/25/23 7:19:35 PM
#157:


gmanthebest posted...
That's what the family is saying happened.

HIS family.

seriously, people. fucking read

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 7:21:14 PM
#158:


Zonbei posted...
Wheres the proof it wasnt? Ill wait.
If it comes out that a pregnant nurse after a 12 hour shift ninja'd her way onto a bike that was docked, then I'll reverse my position. But based on all the facts now, it was her bike and he forced her off.

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xGhostchantx
05/25/23 7:22:39 PM
#159:


thronedfire2 posted...
it's basically a guarantee they have that rule or the price increase would be pointless. it would just constantly be abused

It sounds a lot like:

Karen is going Karen to get her own way and ignoring social etiquette
Dude just did what everyone else did and just held on to the bike rather than booking it straight up instead and she tried to muscle in on it

But like I said

if he had his hands on it the entire time, you'd think any reasonable person would take that as an obvious sign that it's booked.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 7:23:02 PM
#160:


A_Good_Boy posted...
They were in the video.

Learn when to quit man.
Did they say in the video that she asked? I couldn't hear over them saying that her baby is gonna "come out r-worded" and them pushing her back on the dock.

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Zonbei
05/25/23 7:25:15 PM
#161:


gmanthebest posted...
If it comes out that a pregnant nurse after a 12 hour shift ninja'd her way onto a bike that was docked, then I'll reverse my position. But based on all the facts now, it was her bike and he forced her off.


ninjad her way on? Its a bike dude. In the video his friend is sitting on a bike RIGHT NEXT to her. So your story is what, she climbed on this bike right next to his friend, while he was saying he was going to use it, but because she didnt ninja her way on its her bike and hes in the wrong? I truly dont understand what you think physically happened here and how it makes her in the right.

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X8Azazel8X
05/25/23 7:27:40 PM
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LOl not really its supposed to be to fund her legal efforts right? I don't think she gets to keep the money if no lawsuit is brought does she?

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 7:27:57 PM
#163:


gmanthebest posted...
Did they say in the video that she asked? I couldn't hear over them saying that her baby is gonna "come out r-worded" and them pushing her back on the dock.
You didn't hear them say in the video how she pushed the dude off the bike and attempted to take off with it but you heard them insult the baby? So you have selective hearing and selective vision as well as a selective interpretation of the bike's ownership and timeline of events. Neat.

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Zonbei
05/25/23 7:30:06 PM
#164:


X8Azazel8X posted...
LOl not really its supposed to be to fund her legal efforts right? I don't think she gets to keep the money if no lawsuit is brought does she?

Pretty sure gofundme doesnt give a shit what you use the money for.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 7:32:44 PM
#165:


Zonbei posted...
ninjad her way on? Its a bike dude. In the video his friend is sitting on a bike RIGHT NEXT to her. So your story is what, she climbed on this bike right next to his friend, while he was saying he was going to use it, but because she didnt ninja her way on its her bike and hes in the wrong? I truly dont understand what you think physically happened here and how it makes her in the right.
No one knows what happened prior to the video, so it's stupid to say for sure what happened. We don't know if she asked, we don't know if he was holding the bike, we don't know how she got on. All we know for sure is that the bike was docked and not being rented from 7:19 until 7:24, when the "Karen" rented it. The video starts shortly after the conflict and starts with her on the bike. We can see her in distress and them saying her baby is going to "come out r-worded" while pushing her and the bike back into the dock. He then scans the QR code at 7:25 and redocks it at 7:31 while not using it at all and not being charged. He later rents it at 7:59 and goes home. Those are all the facts we have of this case

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X8Azazel8X
05/25/23 7:33:22 PM
#166:


Zonbei posted...
Pretty sure gofundme doesnt give a shit what you use the money for.

Well that's a little shitty since she probably isn't going to use it what she says its for then.

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fire_bolt
05/25/23 7:39:26 PM
#167:


Man this topic is great for expanding my ignore list

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CSCA33
05/25/23 7:51:11 PM
#168:


Where is a link to the actual video? All I can find are people talking about it

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Savoots
05/25/23 7:53:17 PM
#169:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Where's the acceptable place to fight someone over a public accommodation when there are otherwise unoccupied alternatives available to use?

I mean, if someone is blocking the cart corral preventing someone from getting a cart, you don't think that's a problem?

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 7:56:57 PM
#170:


Savoots posted...
I mean, if someone is blocking the cart corral preventing someone from getting a cart, you don't think that's a problem?
If someone was blocking a single cart while leaving the rest available would you fight them for that one cart while ignoring all of the freely available ones right next to it?

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EDF-5
05/25/23 7:57:12 PM
#171:


I don't know who's at fault but I've seen so many karens being horrible on
indisputable that I feel it's usually arguably reasonable to blame the karen
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Despised
05/25/23 8:02:51 PM
#172:


Zonbei posted...
No, Im not. Seriously, why does it matter if he went anywhere if he was paying for the bike? Hell, why does it matter if he didnt?

Someone takes a city bike available to everyone halfway across a huge city, stops for a bite to eat and some water, and your stance is they should just let whether they get home or not be up to the whims of chance because you believe someone is entitled to that specific bike even where there are other ones?

What kind of nonsense is that? Just let him hang onto the fucking bike hes a 17 year old kid. Use another one. Holy shit.


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Savoots
05/25/23 8:08:59 PM
#173:


A_Good_Boy posted...
If someone was blocking a single cart while leaving the rest available would you fight them for that one cart while ignoring all of the freely available ones right next to it?

Answer a question with a question, well done.

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ModernPost
05/25/23 8:10:10 PM
#174:


gmanthebest posted...
No one knows what happened prior to the video,
If you go off of ONLY what you see in the video, her behavior comes across as weird and anti-social. Even knowing that there was a misunderstanding prior to the video, her behavior STILL comes off as weird and anti-social.

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NatsuSama
05/25/23 8:11:17 PM
#175:


X8Azazel8X posted...
LOl not really its supposed to be to fund her legal efforts right? I don't think she gets to keep the money if no lawsuit is brought does she?
Google Goerge Santos and Gofundme.

The tldr, scamming on gofundme isn't new.

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 8:22:18 PM
#176:


Savoots posted...
Answer a question with a question, well done.
The "corral" wasn't blocked in the first place.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 8:23:56 PM
#177:


ModernPost posted...
If you go off of ONLY what you see in the video, her behavior comes across as weird and anti-social. Even knowing that there was a misunderstanding prior to the video, her behavior STILL comes off as weird and anti-social.
Probably because according to her version, she got on a bike and then was approached by the teens and was harassed into redocking the bike. Until we get more evidence, it's impossible to say for sure what happened. I just find her version more likely based on the receipts we have available. If it turns out that she grabbed the bike from the teen and got on, I'll reverse my position and gladly admit that everyone is terrible for how they handled the situation.

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CSCA33
05/25/23 8:24:12 PM
#178:


Looks like the kid already had dibs on the bike and the lady felt a sense of entitlement, dare I say.

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 8:33:36 PM
#179:


gmanthebest posted...
Probably because according to her version, she got on a bike and then was approached by the teens and was harassed into redocking the bike. Until we get more evidence, it's impossible to say for sure what happened. I just find her version more likely based on the receipts we have available. If it turns out that she grabbed the bike from the teen and got on, I'll reverse my position and gladly admit that everyone is terrible for how they handled the situation.
Her version of events don't occur in a vacuum. You're selectively believing her side of the story while ignoring the evidence presented by the boys. They also have receipts and it shows them using the same exact bike for nearly an hour and a half uninterrupted until the pregnant karen came along. The timeline of possession of the bike doesn't begin at 7:24, it begins at 5:53.

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X8Azazel8X
05/25/23 8:35:49 PM
#180:


NatsuSama posted...
Google Goerge Santos and Gofundme.

The tldr, scamming on gofundme isn't new.

Right like he is the model for what a go fund me should be used for. Doesn't make her any less shitty for not using the money for legal fees because she doesn't have a case like advertised.

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ModernPost
05/25/23 8:36:19 PM
#181:


gmanthebest posted...
and gladly admit that everyone is terrible for how they handled the situation.
I don't think it's very even. She was the only adult in the situation, and her behavior was very weird. I mean, SHE knows what happened, but all we see of her is her faking like she needs help and fake crying. Which series of events explains her odd behavior? If she's lying then no, everyone is NOT terrible. She is.

gmanthebest posted...
I just find her version more likely based on the receipts we have available.
The evidence she provided is hardly definitive of anything. The boys have apparently given a plausible narrative of events that explains why she might have those receipts. Given her behavior I'm not inclined to believe her story one bit.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 8:37:01 PM
#182:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Her version of events don't occur in a vacuum. You're selectively believing her side of the story while ignoring the evidence presented by the boys. They also have receipts and it shows them using the same exact bike for nearly an hour and a half uninterrupted until the pregnant karen came along. The timeline of possession of the bike doesn't begin at 7:24, it begins at 5:53.
The bike wasn't being rented at 7:19 until 7:24. That's all that matters. He wasn't renting it, if he wanted to keep it, he should be renting it.

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Tenlaar
05/25/23 8:38:50 PM
#183:


Id say the entitled attitude is that you get to dibs a bike youve returned to the dock and keep other people from renting it for half an hour.
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gmanthebest
05/25/23 8:39:02 PM
#184:


ModernPost posted...
The evidence she provided is hardly definitive of anything. The boys have apparently given a plausible narrative of events that explains why she might have those receipts. Given her behavior I'm not inclined to believe her story one bit.
And that's fine. As long as you're equally willing to change sides when every fact comes to light

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 8:40:54 PM
#185:


gmanthebest posted...
The bike wasn't being rented at 7:19 until 7:24. That's all that matters. He wasn't renting it, if he wanted to keep it, he should be renting it.
No, it's not all that matters and you know that's not all that matters because you refuse to answer the comparison to a shopping cart. If it was as cut and dry as you say then you should be able to answer follow up questions.

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 8:42:41 PM
#186:


Tenlaar posted...
Id say the entitled attitude is that you get to dibs a bike youve returned to the dock and keep other people from renting it for half an hour.
Following commonly acceptable behavior doesn't make you entitled, breaking decorum does.

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coolguyjimmy
05/25/23 8:43:02 PM
#187:


This wouldn't have happened in Japan.

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Heavy_D_Forever
05/25/23 8:44:05 PM
#188:


A_Good_Boy posted...
No, it's not all that matters and you know that's not all that matters because you refuse to answer the comparison to a shopping cart. If it was as cut and dry as you say then you should be able to answer follow up questions.
Shopping Carts don't have names and credit cards attached to them. If the Bike was rented out under her name and the kid took it she could be charged $1,200 for a lost bike. This is not comparable to shopping carts at all.

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ModernPost
05/25/23 8:44:06 PM
#189:


gmanthebest posted...
And that's fine. As long as you're equally willing to change sides when every fact comes to light
This has already played out. After the first reverse uno, when this weird lady got a lawyer to hide behind, I thought "well that was unexpected, but none of that explains why she was acting so fucking weird." So I've already avoided every trap and pitfall that keeps tripping you up. You'll have to forgive my current skepticism.

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 8:48:14 PM
#190:


Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Shopping Carts don't have names and credit cards attached to them. If the Bike was rented out under her name and the kid took it she could be charged $1,200 for a lost bike. This is not comparable to shopping carts at all.
It's a pretty simple line of questioning man: would you fight someone for a shopping cart/bike they were leaning on when there's a free one available to use?

This lady wasn't stopped at all from renting a bike, she just wanted to fight these kids for the ones they were using. This whole situation was completely avoidable, instead it was instigated by the adult, an expecting mother, against a bunch of children.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 8:49:10 PM
#191:


ModernPost posted...
This has already played out. After the first reverse uno, when this weird lady got a lawyer to hide behind, I thought "well that was unexpected, but none of that explains why she was acting so fucking weird." So I've already avoided every trap and pitfall that keeps tripping you up. You'll have to forgive my current skepticism.
Like I said, I'm pretty on her side (obviously). I feel like the only thing we need to clear up is what happened prior. I'm hoping for potential CCTV or something and it can clear up who confronted who. I'll gladly change my tune if he was on it/had his hands on the handlebars. Though that still doesn't change the fact that he's an ass for trying to hog the bike while he's not currently renting it.

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ModernPost
05/25/23 8:56:40 PM
#192:


gmanthebest posted...
Though that still doesn't change the fact that he's an ass for trying to hog the bike while he's not currently renting it.
I don't think that's a reasonable conclusion either but I get it, you've made up your mind, facts be damned.

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fire_bolt
05/25/23 9:04:02 PM
#193:


Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Shopping Carts don't have names and credit cards attached to them. If the Bike was rented out under her name and the kid took it she could be charged $1,200 for a lost bike. This is not comparable to shopping carts at all.


Cool, so she probably should not have tried to jack a bike that she had already been told someone was using, eh? Pretty simple to just say "OK" and rent out one that *isn't* contested.

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thronedfire2
05/25/23 9:06:16 PM
#194:


fire_bolt posted...
Cool, so she probably should not have tried to jack a bike that she had already been told someone was using, eh? Pretty simple to just say "OK" and rent out one that *isn't* contested.

no one was using it. this is like standing outside a bathroom and telling someone they can't use it because you're going to soon

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05/25/23 9:06:21 PM
#195:


fire_bolt posted...
Cool, so she probably should not have tried to jack a bike that she had already been told someone was using, eh? Pretty simple to just say "OK" and rent out one that *isn't* contested.
Apparently he was hogging all the bikes, if were to believe the racist narrative making the rounds.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 9:07:37 PM
#196:


fire_bolt posted...
Cool, so she probably should not have tried to jack a bike that she had already been told someone was using, eh? Pretty simple to just say "OK" and rent out one that *isn't* contested.
But was he using it? It hadn't moved from the docking station from 7:19 to 7:59.

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fire_bolt
05/25/23 9:08:35 PM
#197:


thronedfire2 posted...


no one was using it. this is like standing outside a bathroom and telling someone they can't use it because you're going to soon


A group of kids were literally physically holding the bikes. Full stop. There were other bikes completely unoccupied she could have used instead. Why are you making excuses for this lady's shitty behavior?

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 9:08:51 PM
#198:


Similar to the shopping cart question:

If someone was curling in the squat rack, would you push them out of the way because they weren't using it properly even though there was an empty squat rack right next to you? Probably not, because regardless of the squat rack being used improperly you wouldn't instigate a fight when you could just move over and avoid the situation entirely.

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05/25/23 9:10:07 PM
#199:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Similar to the shopping cart question:

If someone was curling in the squat rack, would you push them out of the way because they weren't using it properly even though there was an empty squat rack right next to you? Probably not, because regardless of the squat rack being used improperly you wouldn't instigate a fight when you could just move over and avoid the situation entirely.
Seems she was entitled to the newer model, though. Because reasons.

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 9:10:19 PM
#200:


thronedfire2 posted...
no one was using it. this is like standing outside a bathroom and telling someone they can't use it because you're going to soon
It's like pushing someone that was standing in the way of a single stall or urinal despite the fact that there are also empty ones available to use.

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ModernPost
05/25/23 9:43:22 PM
#201:


thronedfire2 posted...
no one was using it. this is like standing outside a bathroom and telling someone they can't use it because you're going to soon
Is this the best analogy you could come up with? You're telling on yourself.

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thronedfire2
05/25/23 9:46:21 PM
#202:


ModernPost posted...
Is this the best analogy you could come up with? You're telling on yourself.

alright it would be like standing in the entrance to the supermarket with an empty shopping cart and telling a pregnant woman who asked for it to go out and get one from the corral instead.

and then just standing there with it for 40 minutes

really Im just bored

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