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SaikyoStyle
05/25/23 6:37:46 PM
#103:


This hasnt been a great day for ghettoraider81.

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Zonbei
05/25/23 6:39:19 PM
#104:


gmanthebest posted...
7:19 to 7:59 is 35 minutes? Do you need to go back to school? Either way, he wasn't using it, so that's his problem. The point is that if you aren't renting something, it's not yours to take

No, but 7:24 to 7:59 is, which is the time elapsed from when he rented it again and when he allegedly left, and the times I said previously. Do you need to go back to school to learn reading comprehension?


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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 6:40:35 PM
#105:


gmanthebest posted...
The point is that if you aren't renting something, it's not yours to take
If someone was leaning against a shopping cart at a grocery store you wouldn't push them off it and claim it was now yours because managed to get both hands on the handles. What this lady did was foul and absolutely unnecessary in the first place.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 6:40:58 PM
#106:


Zonbei posted...
No, but 7:24 to 7:59 is, which is the time elapsed from when he rented it again and when he allegedly left, and the times I said previously. Do you need to go back to school to learn reading comprehension?
Are you having a stroke? The rental from 7:25 to 7:31 doesn't go anywhere, so he's not using it. Do you not understand that not using a bike means that you're not using a bike?

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 6:41:41 PM
#107:


A_Good_Boy posted...
If someone was leaning against a shopping cart at a grocery store you wouldn't push them off it and claim it was now yours because managed to get both hands on the handles. What this lady did was foul and absolutely unnecessary in the first place.
If someone is leaning against a cart, I'm expecting them to use it within the next few minutes, not 40 minutes later

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Zonbei
05/25/23 6:43:09 PM
#108:


gmanthebest posted...
Are you having a stroke? The rental from 7:25 to 7:31 doesn't go anywhere, so he's not using it. Do you not understand that not using a bike means that you're not using a bike?


Why does it matter if he went anywhere if he was renting it? Also cool deflection away from being super wrong about that number thing a moment ago. Clearly I must just be having a stroke.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 6:44:16 PM
#109:


Zonbei posted...
Why does it matter if he went anywhere if he was renting it?
Oh, you're just trolling. No one can seriously be this obtuse. What number thing? He originally docked it there at 7:19. She goes to rent it at 7:24. They made her redock it. He then takes it out from 7:25 to 7:31, literally not going anywhere. And finally he leaves with it at 7:59. Every receipt corroborates this

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 6:44:35 PM
#110:


gmanthebest posted...
If someone is leaning against a cart, I'm expecting them to use it within the next few minutes, not 40 minutes later
Would you fight someone for it though?

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Zonbei
05/25/23 6:44:43 PM
#111:


gmanthebest posted...
If someone is leaning against a cart, I'm expecting them to use it within the next few minutes, not 40 minutes later

Who gives a fuck? There are other carts. Also he spent some of that 35 minutes paying for said cart. So you should only be upset about the time he didnt. I know its hard but try to get the numbers and what youre mad about straight, please.

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Zonbei
05/25/23 6:46:16 PM
#112:


gmanthebest posted...
Oh, you're just trolling. No one can seriously be this obtuse

No, Im not. Seriously, why does it matter if he went anywhere if he was paying for the bike? Hell, why does it matter if he didnt?

Someone takes a city bike available to everyone halfway across a huge city, stops for a bite to eat and some water, and your stance is they should just let whether they get home or not be up to the whims of chance because you believe someone is entitled to that specific bike even where there are other ones?

What kind of nonsense is that? Just let him hang onto the fucking bike hes a 17 year old kid. Use another one. Holy shit.

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BeantownHero
05/25/23 6:47:30 PM
#113:


one groups' actions were (arguably) self centered. ensuring you have transportation home when your options are limited financially is legitimate

The other, intentionally weaponized her race KNOWING what the climate in this country is in regards to black people, boys and men in particular, face when they are deemed even remotely a threat. Hell, we just saw a dude IN THIS CITY get choked to death for it

So yeah...its still fuck her

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X8Azazel8X
05/25/23 6:47:31 PM
#114:


Zonbei posted...
Have you tried one of these two options:

1: think about the things youre saying before you say them
2 shut the fuck up

Please consider choosing one of the above.


LOL this is really the only option for people continuously defending her despite the new accounts.

Her and her lawsuit potential is nil and she probably will lose her job over it.

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NoxObscuras
05/25/23 6:48:45 PM
#115:


gmanthebest posted...
You're right. He docked the bike at 7:19. She comes at 7:24 to rent the bike, they push it back with her on it to redock it resulting in a $0 charge on her account. He then rents it from 7:25 to 7:31 while not going anywhere and finally at 7:59 he rents it to go home. Why did he wait 40 minutes if he was still using it? Who knows?
See now you're trying to fill in the gaps with your own narrative. How do you know he was just "waiting around" from 7:31 to 7:59? Maybe he was talking to people that came to diffuse the situation? Any number of things could have been happening after this whole incident happened.

It still doesn't justify her actions

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Barber102
05/25/23 6:50:10 PM
#116:


justaguy3492 posted...
I mean, if we're talking about common courtesy, then wouldn't the courteous thing be to let the pregnant lady have the e-bike?

this.

truthfully, though I dont care which side was right or wrong. if the boys never filmed it and posted it online. none of this would even be known about and both parties couldve went on their way. Modern society is the true villain and were all victims.

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SocialistGamer
05/25/23 6:51:04 PM
#117:


From the same outlet: https://twitter.com/newsone/status/1661475126183854080?s=20

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Tyranthraxus
05/25/23 6:51:27 PM
#118:


Zonbei posted...
Its 35 minutes, which is.. nearly half an hour.

Yeah 35 years old is basically 60 I should have been collecting social security years ago wow.

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Zonbei
05/25/23 6:51:29 PM
#119:


gmanthebest posted...
Oh, you're just trolling. No one can seriously be this obtuse. What number thing? He originally docked it there at 7:19. She goes to rent it at 7:24. They made her redock it. He then takes it out from 7:25 to 7:31, literally not going anywhere. And finally he leaves with it at 7:59. Every receipt corroborates this

You edited this, so Ill respond again;

you are upset he didnt let her rent it at 7:24 if he wasnt going to use it and wasnt renting it. He rented it at 7:25 to 7:31, so thats a moot point from those times. Whether he went anywhere or not is irrelevant: he rented it so he had possession, by your own logic. He had his literal hands on it, so as far as anyone needs to be concerned, he was about to rent it at any moment. The woman came and took it from him at that time. Anything after that is again, completely irrelevant.

Maybe he didnt leave until 7:59 because he was fucking shook from some jackass lady attacking him and then screaming about it. Doesnt matter. Not your place to decide whether he should have or not.

The number issue is the one where you failed to read me say that from 7:24 to 7:59 is 35 minutes and tried to gotcha me on math while saying I need to go back to school, and made yourself look like you cant read in the process.


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gmanthebest
05/25/23 6:53:18 PM
#120:


Zonbei posted...
You edited this, so Ill respond again;

you are upset he didnt let her rent it at 7:24 if he wasnt going to use it and wasnt renting it. He rented it at 7:25 to 7:31, so thats a moot point from those times. Whether he went anywhere or not is irrelevant: he rented it so he had possession, by your own logic. He had his literal hands on it, so as far as anyone needs to be concerned, he was about to rent it at any moment. The woman came and took it from him at that time. Anything after that is again, completely irrelevant.

Maybe he didnt leave until 7:59 because he was fucking shook from some jackass lady attacking him and then screaming about it. Doesnt matter. Not your place to decide whether he should have or not.

The number issue is the one where you failed to read me say that from 7:24 to 7:59 is 35 minutes and tried to gotcha me on math while saying I need to go back to school, and made yourself look like you cant read in the process.
He rented it at 7:25 after he pushed the bike with her in it back into the dock

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Zonbei
05/25/23 6:53:36 PM
#121:


Barber102 posted...
this.

It may be common courtesy to let a pregnant lady have your bike. Im not sure why we have to give pregnant people special treatment, but sure. However him not practicing common courtesy doesnt mean she gets to try to take the bike from his hands because she didnt get what she asked for.

Its common courtesy to hold the door for someone, but if they dont you dont get to open the door, run in front of them, stand in their way, and scream at them. Thats insane behavior.

This isnt even bringing up the racial component! Others are talking about that, but even without that its insane behavior.

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MarcoRubio
05/25/23 6:55:06 PM
#122:


Lol these topics, man.

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Zonbei
05/25/23 6:55:11 PM
#123:


gmanthebest posted...
He rented it at 7:25 after he pushed the bike with her in it back into the dock

Yes. That is correct. Im not sure how thats got anything to do with anything I just said though, except as some sort of agreement.

He sure did push the bike with her in it back onto the dock after she tried to snatch his bike from him, at 7:24.

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R1masher
05/25/23 6:56:28 PM
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FelineCyborg
05/25/23 6:56:35 PM
#125:


i dont know whos in the right but she was genuinely off putting and weird in the video

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Barber102
05/25/23 6:57:00 PM
#126:


Zonbei posted...
It may be common courtesy to let a pregnant lady have your bike. Im not sure why we have to give pregnant people special treatment, but sure. However him not practicing common courtesy doesnt mean she gets to try to take the bike from his hands because she didnt get what she asked for.

Its common courtesy to hold the door for someone, but if they dont you dont get to open the door, run in front of them, stand in their way, and scream at them. Thats insane behavior.

This isnt even bringing up the racial component! Others are talking about that, but even without that its insane behavior.

My post was only about what is courtesy. Not who was right or wrong. Pregnant women have been getting special treatment by civilized people since being a civilized person became a thing, because being pregnant is not an easy thing to go through.


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xGhostchantx
05/25/23 6:57:42 PM
#127:


ghettoraider81 posted...
This is entire wrong.

The bike was docked, she purchased it, the boys forcefully redocked it claiming it was theirs.

Wether or not they had been using it all day is irrelevant. The moment they docked it, it became available. They had no claim to it. The moment the woman made the purchase it was hers.

Yeah a lot about this is kind of problematic. I would imagine CitiBike have some kind of exclusion like 'if you dock it, its docked -- re-book immediately or lose it' policy concerning the 45 minute rule. It does read like they didn't re-book it immediately... buuut, if he had his hands on it the entire time, you'd think any reasonable person would take that as an obvious sign that it's booked.

I dunno, bit weird all around.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 6:57:52 PM
#128:


Zonbei posted...
Yes. That is correct. Im not sure how thats got anything to do with anything I just said though, except as some sort of agreement.

He sure did push the bike with her in it back onto the dock after she tried to snatch his bike from him, at 7:24.
Yes, so the rental between 7:25 and 7:31 don't count because he forced her out of the rental. So physically restraining someone and forcing her to redock a bike is perfectly fine for a bike that you're not currently using? We also don't know if his hands were on it when she got on the bike. That's only what the family says

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Sandalorn
05/25/23 6:58:12 PM
#129:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Would you fight someone for it though?


Na, He's the type to talk tough about black kids on the internet and piss his pants in real life.

Imagine believing it is cool to scan the bike WHILE IT IS IN HIS HANDS and then take his phone in addition. Shock Mr. Tough guy never brought up that point eh?

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Zonbei
05/25/23 6:58:29 PM
#130:


Barber102 posted...
My post was only about what is courtesy. Not who was right or wrong. Pregnant women have been getting special treatment by civilized people since being a civilized person became a thing, because being pregnant is not an easy thing to go through.


Of course its not, but, you know. Neither are lots of things. Its common courtesy to be kind to anyone who needs help; sometimes pregnant women do. But people often act like theyre somehow special in ways others who need help arent.

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 7:00:20 PM
#131:


Barber102 posted...
My post was only about what is courtesy. Not who was right or wrong. Pregnant women have been getting special treatment by civilized people since being a civilized person became a thing, because being pregnant is not an easy thing to go through.
Courtesy doesn't start or end based on who's pregnant or not. These boys not acquiescing to the request of the pregnant lady to yield their bikes to her doesn't entitle her to fight them as a response.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 7:01:58 PM
#132:


Sandalorn posted...
Na, He's the type to talk tough about black kids on the internet and piss his pants in real life.

Imagine believing it is cool to scan the bike WHILE IT IS IN HIS HANDS and then take his phone in addition. Shock Mr. Tough guy never brought up that point eh?
Where's the proof that the bike was in his hands when she got on? I'll wait

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 7:03:22 PM
#133:


gmanthebest posted...
Where's the proof that the bike was in his hands when she got on? I'll wait
And here comes the sealioning, hallmark of the dude that knows he's got nothing else to say but doesn't want to let go of an argument he's losing.

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Tyranthraxus
05/25/23 7:04:29 PM
#134:


gmanthebest posted...
Where's the proof that the bike was in his hands when she got on? I'll wait

Why was she asking him for the bike in the first place? What reason did she have to think he was renting it?

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Barber102
05/25/23 7:05:02 PM
#135:


Zonbei posted...
Of course its not, but, you know. Neither are lots of things. Its common courtesy to be kind to anyone who needs help; sometimes pregnant women do. But people often act like theyre somehow special in ways others who need help arent.

i edited that initial post which you may or may not have seen. In the case you didnt I will just say it again.

I dont care which side was right or wrong. if the boys never filmed it and posted it online. none of this would even be known about and both parties couldve went on their way.

Modern society is the true villain and were all victims, because of the way we communicate. We now have two peoples lives and their adjacent families being dragged through the mud over something that shouldve been over after the situation ended.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 7:05:09 PM
#136:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Why was she asking him for the bike in the first place? What reason did she have to think he was renting it?
Did she ask him? I didn't see that in the video or the receipts

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 7:06:06 PM
#137:


A_Good_Boy posted...
And here comes the sealioning, hallmark of the dude that knows he's got nothing else to say but doesn't want to let go of an argument he's losing.
Sorry, I'm just going based on the video and the receipts. You know, the only proven evidence we actually have

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Tyranthraxus
05/25/23 7:06:07 PM
#138:


gmanthebest posted...
Did she ask him? I didn't see that in the video or the receipts
Yes she did.

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Savoots
05/25/23 7:06:10 PM
#139:


A_Good_Boy posted...
If someone was leaning against a shopping cart at a grocery store you wouldn't push them off it and claim it was now yours because managed to get both hands on the handles. What this lady did was foul and absolutely unnecessary in the first place.

Is the cart in the corral?

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thronedfire2
05/25/23 7:06:44 PM
#140:


xGhostchantx posted...
Yeah a lot about this is kind of problematic. I would imagine CitiBike have some kind of exclusion like 'if you dock it, its docked -- re-book immediately or lose it' policy concerning the 45 minute rule. It does read like they didn't re-book it immediately... buuut, if he had his hands on it the entire time, you'd think any reasonable person would take that as an obvious sign that it's booked.

I dunno, bit weird all around.

it's basically a guarantee they have that rule or the price increase would be pointless. it would just constantly be abused

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 7:07:36 PM
#141:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Yes she did.
Was it in the video? Or is that what the family said happened? Or is there a statement from both parties that both agree she asked first? Might have missed that if it happened

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Tyranthraxus
05/25/23 7:08:25 PM
#142:


gmanthebest posted...
Was it in the video? Or is that what the family said happened? Or is there a statement from both parties that both agree she asked first? Might have missed that if it happened

there are four fucking eyewitness

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thronedfire2
05/25/23 7:08:58 PM
#143:


gmanthebest posted...
Was it in the video? Or is that what the family said happened? Or is there a statement from both parties that both agree she asked first? Might have missed that if it happened

it literally says in the OP that she asked all of them. he was the only one not currently sitting on a bike

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 7:09:13 PM
#145:


gmanthebest posted...
Sorry, I'm just going based on the video and the receipts. You know, the only proven evidence we actually have
Which receipts are we going off of, the ones that show he'd been biking all day and despite the fact she tried to fight him for the bike he had been using she was still able to rent another one a minute later and could have just avoided the entire situation by not starting a fight in public? Those receipts, or are we selectively cherry picking the receipts we'd like to use because there's a nonsense narrative you'd like to push?

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CanuckCowboy
05/25/23 7:09:34 PM
#146:


Meanwhile panza makes good money destroying those bikes purposely on youtube doing some decent bmx on em


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I4NRulez
05/25/23 7:10:52 PM
#147:


oh shit, a story about a black kid and all the alts come out to defend the otherside.

Also, did she unblur out the times of her rental? Cause i've seen the receipts for the kid and actual new yorkers defending the kid saying what he did was common practice.

https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/13rj226/turns_out_bike_karen_is_a_karen_afterall/


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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 7:11:03 PM
#148:


Savoots posted...
Is the cart in the corral?
Where's the acceptable place to fight someone over a public accommodation when there are otherwise unoccupied alternatives available to use?

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 7:12:26 PM
#149:


thronedfire2 posted...
it literally says in the OP that she asked all of them. he was the only one not currently sitting on a bike
That's what the family is saying happened.

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A_Good_Boy
05/25/23 7:13:09 PM
#150:


gmanthebest posted...
That's what the family is saying happened.
Plus the witnesses.

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Tyranthraxus
05/25/23 7:13:31 PM
#151:


gmanthebest posted...
That's what the family is saying happened.

Video is fake. They're just saying it's real.

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gmanthebest
05/25/23 7:14:29 PM
#152:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Which receipts are we going off of, the ones that show he'd been biking all day and despite the fact she tried to fight him for the bike he had been using she was still able to rent another one a minute later and could have just avoided the entire situation by not starting a fight in public? Those receipts, or are we selectively cherry picking the receipts we'd like to use because there's a nonsense narrative you'd like to push?
I'm using all the receipts from around the time of the encounter and the video as that's all we can go off of unless both parties agree on anything.

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