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Kradek 05/24/23 9:21:27 PM #1:	It's gonna be Raw Story, based off a WaPo article, which I'd link to except it's paywalled. https://www.rawstory.com/book-ban-2660547890/ Right-wing activists have been working in recent years to remove what they say are objectionable books from local libraries -- but it turns out that a tiny number of them are responsible for most of the book ban requests. Analysis conducted by the Washington Post found that only 11 people were responsible for more than half of more than 1,000 different book challenges analyzed by the paper, with one person responsible for 92 challenges just by himself. "Together, these serial filers constituted 6 percent of all book challengers but were responsible for 60 percent of all filings," the Post states. North Carolina resident Michelle Teague acknowledged to the Post that she was singlehandedly responsible for 24 different book challenges, which included titles such as Vladimir Nabokovs Lolita," Khaled Hosseinis The Kite Runner," and Toni Morrisons The Bluest Eye. "I did spend some time doing it, said Teague, who said that she read all of the books that she challenged from cover to cover. "It was involved." The Post also found that many of the challenges against the books claimed that the texts were not merely inappropriate but flat-out illegal. "Sixteen percent of all objections claimed that school books violated either state obscenity laws or legislation passed in the past three years restricting education on race, racism, sexuality and gender identity," the Post writes. "Calling books 'illegal' was the ninth-most common reason employed by book challengers. This tactic was especially popular in Florida and Texas: Of the 153 complaints contending books were illegal, 56 percent were brought in Florida and 18 percent in Texas." It was also about 11 or so people who are responsible for all of the anti-vax conspiracies. Not saying it's the same 11, but there's definitely overlap in their beliefs. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:973696812] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>It's gonna be Raw Story, based off a WaPo article, which I'd link to except it's paywalled. https://www.rawstory.com/book-ban-2660547890/Right-wing activists have been working in recent years to remove what they say are objectionable books from local libraries -- but it turns out that a tiny number of them are responsible for most of the book ban requests.Analysis conducted by the Washington Post found that only 11 people were responsible for more than half of more than 1,000 different book challenges analyzed by the paper, with one person responsible for 92 challenges just by himself."Together, these serial filers constituted 6 percent of all book challengers but were responsible for 60 percent of all filings," the Post states.North Carolina resident Michelle Teague acknowledged to the Post that she was singlehandedly responsible for 24 different book challenges, which included titles such as Vladimir Nabokovs Lolita," Khaled Hosseinis The Kite Runner," and Toni Morrisons The Bluest Eye."I did spend some time doing it, said Teague, who said that she read all of the books that she challenged from cover to cover. "It was involved."The Post also found that many of the challenges against the books claimed that the texts were not merely inappropriate but flat-out illegal."Sixteen percent of all objections claimed that school books violated either state obscenity laws or legislation passed in the past three years restricting education on race, racism, sexuality and gender identity," the Post writes. "Calling books 'illegal' was the ninth-most common reason employed by book challengers. This tactic was especially popular in Florida and Texas: Of the 153 complaints contending books were illegal, 56 percent were brought in Florida and 18 percent in Texas."It was also about 11 or so people who are responsible for all of the anti-vax conspiracies. Not saying it's the same 11, but there's definitely overlap in their beliefs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArkhamOrigins 05/24/23 9:22:37 PM #2:	Hmmm what other major political power banned books and burned them? --- The <cite>ArkhamOrigins posted [p:973696850] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Hmmm what other major political power banned books and burned them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 05/24/23 9:24:39 PM #3:	ArkhamOrigins posted... Hmmm what other major political power banned books and burned them? I see the obvious connection you're making, and there are other things that make them similar (the first group the Nazis demonized was also the LGBT community), however in modern times we also have Viktor Orban of Hungary to point to, because he did this not too long ago and the GOP seems to actually be following his examples more closely. Though I think DeSantis making it a Class B felony up to 5 years in prison is further than even Orban went on banning books. And in case anybody is wondering, yes Viktor Orban is the fascist autocrat who spoke at CPAC not long ago and got (I believe) a standing ovation. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:973696891] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>ArkhamOrigins posted... </cite><quote>Hmmm what other major political power banned books and burned them?</quote>I see the obvious connection you're making, and there are other things that make them similar (the first group the Nazis demonized was also the LGBT community), however in modern times we also have Viktor Orban of Hungary to point to, because he did this not too long ago and the GOP seems to actually be following his examples more closely. Though I think DeSantis making it a Class B felony up to 5 years in prison is further than even Orban went on banning books.And in case anybody is wondering, yes Viktor Orban is the fascist autocrat who spoke at CPAC not long ago and got (I believe) a standing ovation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/24/23 9:28:31 PM #4:	Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:973696986] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 05/24/23 9:29:12 PM #5:	Questionmarktarius posted... Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now. Please shitpost in some else's thread. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:973697003] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now.</quote>Please shitpost in some else's thread.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 05/24/23 9:29:34 PM #6:	Questionmarktarius posted... Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now. Shutthefuckuptarius --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:973697013] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now.</quote>Shutthefuckuptarius</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 05/24/23 9:29:36 PM #7:	Questionmarktarius posted... Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now. Stop this shit. Stop it right now. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:973697015] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now.</quote>Stop this shit. Stop it right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 05/24/23 9:31:05 PM #8:	Questionmarktarius posted... Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now. I mean. Should only nationwide sort of bans be worrying? <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:973697060] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now.</quote>I mean. Should only nationwide sort of bans be worrying?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 05/24/23 9:31:10 PM #9:	ArkhamOrigins posted... Hmmm what other major political power banned books and burned them? the same ones that banned guns? --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:973697062] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>ArkhamOrigins posted... </cite><quote>Hmmm what other major political power banned books and burned them?</quote>the same ones that banned guns?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 05/24/23 9:33:07 PM #10:	R1masher posted... the same ones that banned guns? To be fair. Most countries ban guns. Developed ones at that. Ergo, not fascists. Not so with books. Wonder what the difference is. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:973697117] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>R1masher posted... </cite><quote>the same ones that banned guns?</quote>To be fair. Most countries ban guns. Developed ones at that. Ergo, not fascists. Not so with books. Wonder what the difference is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 05/24/23 9:33:55 PM #11:	R1masher posted... the same ones that banned guns? You've made a bad analogy. Why have you done that? --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:973697134] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>R1masher posted... </cite><quote>the same ones that banned guns?</quote>You've made a bad analogy. Why have you done that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 05/24/23 9:34:48 PM #12:	R1masher posted... the same ones that banned guns? The Nazis only banned Jews and other "undesirables" (their victims) from owning guns. We also saw in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising that the guns they did have not was not enough to stop a government intent on oppressing and murdering them. Your rifles and pistols are not gonna stop a government from doing shit, especially not now when they could just drone strike you from hundreds of miles away. Also, it's ridiculous to think that the Founding Fathers would actually want the people to have a means for overthrowing the government they were establishing. EthanSilver posted... To be fair. Most countries ban guns. Developed ones at that. Ergo, not fascists. Not so with books. Wonder what the difference is. Also this. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:973697151] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>R1masher posted... </cite><quote>the same ones that banned guns?</quote>The Nazis only banned Jews and other "undesirables" (their victims) from owning guns. We also saw in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising that the guns they did have not was not enough to stop a government intent on oppressing and murdering them.Your rifles and pistols are not gonna stop a government from doing shit, especially not now when they could just drone strike you from hundreds of miles away.Also, it's ridiculous to think that the Founding Fathers would actually want the people to have a means for overthrowing the government they were establishing. EthanSilver posted... </cite><quote>To be fair. Most countries ban guns. Developed ones at that. Ergo, not fascists. Not so with books. Wonder what the difference is.</quote>Also this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 05/24/23 9:34:57 PM #13:	UnholyMudcrab posted... You've made a bad analogy. Why have you done that? Maybe he saw both concepts shared the word "ban." "SAME THING!" <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:973697152] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>You've made a bad analogy. Why have you done that?</quote>Maybe he saw both concepts shared the word "ban.""SAME THING!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 05/26/23 9:52:42 AM #15:	R1masher posted... the same ones that banned guns? The same ones that ate food, no less. Checkmate. --- "Never confuse education with intelligence, you can have a PhD and still be an idiot." -Richard Feynman <cite>AloneIBreak posted [p:973727721] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>R1masher posted... </cite><quote>the same ones that banned guns?</quote>The same ones that ate food, no less. Checkmate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FolkenRawr 05/26/23 9:56:11 AM #16:	"I did spend some time doing it, said Teague, who said that she read all of the books that she challenged from cover to cover. "It was involved." I'd sooner believe she doesn't know how to read, than that she read every book she complained about cover to cover. --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin <cite>FolkenRawr posted [p:973727779] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote><quote>"I did spend some time doing it, said Teague, who said that she read all of the books that she challenged from cover to cover. "It was involved."</quote>I'd sooner believe she doesn't know how to read, than that she read every book she complained about cover to cover. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 05/26/23 10:01:25 AM #17:	A lot of these people cant actually read at all they do this out of jealousy --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:973727868] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>A lot of these people cant actually read at all they do this out of jealousy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 05/26/23 10:14:43 AM #18:	UnholyMudcrab posted... You've made a bad analogy. Why have you done that? Well in the Target thread he made a claim and then stated he didn't read anything in the thread... <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:973728064] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>You've made a bad analogy. Why have you done that?</quote>Well in the Target thread he made a claim and then stated he didn't read anything in the thread...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 05/26/23 10:15:23 AM #19:	Questionmarktarius posted... Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now. What does that have to do with school book bans? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:973728076] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now.</quote>What does that have to do with school book bans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 05/26/23 10:31:31 AM #20:	The woman who got the poem read at the inaugural banned sounds like she can barely read. She said she had only read parts of the books. *They have to read for me* because Im not an expert, she said. *Im not a reader*. Im not a book person. Im a mom involved in my childrens education. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:973728379] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>The woman who got the poem read at the inaugural banned sounds like she can barely read.<quote>She said she had only read parts of the books. They have to read for me because Im not an expert, she said. Im not a reader. Im not a book person. Im a mom involved in my childrens education.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 05/26/23 10:32:49 AM #21:	Questionmarktarius posted... Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now. Have you ever made a post that wasn't absolute fucking garbage? --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:973728397] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now.</quote>Have you ever made a post that wasn't absolute fucking garbage?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 05/26/23 10:32:53 AM #22:	Questionmarktarius posted... Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now. Vs. the cost of walking into a library or school. --- Putin delenda est <cite>brestugo posted [p:973728398] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Name any of those books that can't be bought on Amazon, right now.</quote>Vs. the cost of walking into a library or school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 05/26/23 1:09:27 PM #23:	brestugo posted... Vs. the cost of walking into a library or school. Right? Might as well have said, "Who's stopping these 8 year olds from committing all of their meager money (if they even have any) to books they're not sure they'll even enjoy?!" --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:973731289] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite><quote>Vs. the cost of walking into a library or school.</quote>Right? Might as well have said, "Who's stopping these 8 year olds from committing all of their meager money (if they even have any) to books they're not sure they'll even enjoy?!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 05/29/23 3:49:42 AM #25:	Incidentally, I do have a print copy of a book that does not exist anymore. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/03/08/mcgraw-hill-education-withdraws-textbook-maps-viewed-anti-israel No idea what this means in CE-sense. I had to have it,when it got memory-holed. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:973784928] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Incidentally, I do have a print copy of a book that does not exist anymore.https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2016/03/08/mcgraw-hill-education-withdraws-textbook-maps-viewed-anti-israelNo idea what this means in CE-sense. I had to have it,when it got memory-holed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mew 05/29/23 3:54:44 AM #26:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This is why I love CE --- https://gfycat.com/tensescarygermanshepherd <cite>Mew posted [p:973784961] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This is why I love CE </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 05/29/23 5:22:31 AM #27:	R1masher posted... the same ones that banned guns? Well, Reagan did push for some control when the Black Panthers wanted guns. And trump talked about taking guns first, due process second. So, banning books and pushing to ban guns comes from the same party. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:973785453] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>R1masher posted... </cite><quote>the same ones that banned guns?</quote>Well, Reagan did push for some control when the Black Panthers wanted guns. And trump talked about taking guns first, due process second. So, banning books and pushing to ban guns comes from the same party.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/29/23 5:26:31 AM #28:	Reagan and Trump are somehow the only meaningful gun control there's been since the Prohibition era. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:973785470] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Reagan and Trump are somehow the only meaningful gun control there's been since the Prohibition era.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 05/29/23 6:41:26 AM #29:	Ban Fahrenheit 451 These people are reading it wrong --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:973785926] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Ban Fahrenheit 451These people are reading it wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 05/30/23 10:21:20 AM #30:	Questionmarktarius posted... Reagan and Trump are somehow the only meaningful gun control there's been since the Prohibition era. What was Trump's net positive gun control? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:973809405] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Reagan and Trump are somehow the only meaningful gun control there's been since the Prohibition era.</quote>What was Trump's net positive gun control?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/30/23 4:31:57 PM #31:	Ruvan22 posted... What was Trump's net positive gun control? Bump-stock ban <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:973817115] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Ruvan22 posted... </cite><quote>What was Trump's net positive gun control?</quote>Bump-stock ban</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 05/30/23 6:39:01 PM #32:	Questionmarktarius posted... Bump-stock ban Not sure it was a net positive... https://fedsoc.org/commentary/fedsoc-blog/a-second-amendment-grade-for-president-trump-so-far (Federalist is relatively right wing so they go even harder criticizing gun control measures) <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:973819911] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Bump-stock ban</quote>Not sure it was a net positive...https://fedsoc.org/commentary/fedsoc-blog/a-second-amendment-grade-for-president-trump-so-far(Federalist is relatively right wing so they go even harder criticizing gun control measures)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 05/30/23 6:56:21 PM #33:	Questionmarktarius posted... Reagan and Trump are somehow the only meaningful gun control there's been since the Prohibition era. Bill Clinton's AWB ban in 1994 saw a noticeable decline in mass shootings/usage of those firearms and 10 years later when GWB didn't renew it cases rose and here we are today. https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/06/15/did-the-assault-weapons-ban-of-1994-bring-down-mass-shootings-heres-what-the-data-tells-us/ During the 1994-2004 ban: In the years after the assault weapons ban went into effect, the number of deaths from mass shootings fell, and the increase in the annual number of incidents slowed down. Even including 1999s Columbine High School massacre the deadliest mass shooting during the period of the ban the 1994 to 2004 period saw lower average annual rates of both mass shootings and deaths resulting from such incidents than before the bans inception. From 2004 onward: The data shows an almost immediate and steep rise in mass shooting deaths in the years after the assault weapons ban expired in 2004. Breaking the data into absolute numbers, between 2004 and 2017 the last year of our analysis the average number of yearly deaths attributed to mass shootings was 25, compared with 5.3 during the 10-year tenure of the ban and 7.2 in the years leading up to the prohibition on assault weapons. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:973820221] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite><quote>Reagan and Trump are somehow the only meaningful gun control there's been since the Prohibition era.</quote>Bill Clinton's AWB ban in 1994 saw a noticeable decline in mass shootings/usage of those firearms and 10 years later when GWB didn't renew it cases rose and here we are today.https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/06/15/did-the-assault-weapons-ban-of-1994-bring-down-mass-shootings-heres-what-the-data-tells-us/During the 1994-2004 ban:In the years after the assault weapons ban went into effect, the number of deaths from mass shootings fell, and the increase in the annual number of incidents slowed down. Even including 1999s Columbine High School massacre the deadliest mass shooting during the period of the ban the 1994 to 2004 period saw lower average annual rates of both mass shootings and deaths resulting from such incidents than before the bans inception.From 2004 onward:The data shows an almost immediate and steep rise in mass shooting deaths in the years after the assault weapons ban expired in 2004.Breaking the data into absolute numbers, between 2004 and 2017 the last year of our analysis the average number of yearly deaths attributed to mass shootings was 25, compared with 5.3 during the 10-year tenure of the ban and 7.2 in the years leading up to the prohibition on assault weapons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 05/30/23 6:58:29 PM #34:	Who is putting them up to this? --- he/him/his <cite>Euripides posted [p:973820270] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Who is putting them up to this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsuprised_Pika 05/30/23 6:59:11 PM #35:	Life in prison. Worthless scum --- I post clips of my cool, stupid and glitchy MH Sunbreak and Tears of the Kingdom gameplay here just for fun. https://youtube.com/user/linkachu1000 <cite>Unsuprised_Pika posted [p:973820294] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Life in prison.Worthless scum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE_FOSTER 06/01/23 9:27:50 AM #37:	Unsuprised_Pika posted... Life in prison. Worthless scum <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:973854155] in 11 people ... [t:80455007]...</cite> <quote>Unsuprised_Pika posted... </cite><quote>Life in prison.Worthless scum</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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