Board 8 > God damnit the RE4 remake fuckin ruled (spoilers)

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XIII_Rocks
05/17/23 4:53:59 PM
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I wanted so badly to hate it because of how unnecessary it is, but it was so great

It did a fair few things better than the original. A few misses and head-scratching decisions, and it never quite recaptured the satisfaction from the original of blasting somebody point blank with a shotgun but I was really happy with this overall.

That said, more cause of age, I can't see myself replaying this enough to unlock everything and get that Platinum. We'll see.

Notes about the playthrough:

-I missed one of the locked treasures during the Ashley section and I nearly restarted the whole game. Livid.
-I killed everything I could see. Almost became an ocd thing. Also it was so satisfying.
-that includes Verdugo, killed that guy dead. My pride wouldn't allow me to run
-the shooting ranges seem pretty hard. I got a few s ranks but not all
-I felt a little emotional on the first few notes of the credits, just cause the nostalgia really hit them for some reason
-Saddler being nonexistent for most of the game was a weird choice
-No U3, man I liked that fight
-Krauser fight was a bit of a downgrade. In fact the entire Island section was the weakest of the game. Felt like it lost quite a lot with the removal of the crane game, truck section, u3, and Krauser QTE fight
-Did one of the files indicate that Saddler's left hand was u3? In fact the increase in files/backstory generally was much appreciated.

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FFDragon
05/17/23 5:08:49 PM
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I would bet money that U3 got moved to Separate Ways. Basically anything that got "cut" seems set up to be there instead

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Snake5555555555
05/17/23 5:34:21 PM
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I teared up during the credits too.

Saddler's lack of a presence probably made more sense narratively but definitely weakened his overall threat.

Krauser was a bit better for me personally. Making the infamous knife fight cutscene playable was really awesome to me.

Overall the island was about the same for me. The truck/bulldozer section was perfectly sidegraded with the wrecking ball. And things just felt more stream-lined and enjoyable.


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pjbasis
05/17/23 5:45:11 PM
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I think most characters were downgrades besides Leon, Mendez, Salazar, and Ashley (and I kinda like bratty ashley).

But it's really just because the tone of the game fitting in with the rest of the series. It just doesn't fit the particular campiness of RE4 to a tee. It was still great and I think the attempt was super interesting.

Gameplay wise I have no complaints and it's such a novel experience it really complements the old one. Even when things were different they were still just as good.

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Then00bAvenger
05/17/23 6:03:20 PM
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I tried doing the shooting range with a controller but gave up and did it with a mouse instead. People who full comp that on console must be pros, god damn

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skullbone
05/17/23 6:09:21 PM
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Yeah I played through the game on controller and then I went back and replayed the first level on mouse and it was crazy how much quicker and easier it was.

I mean that's probably an obvious conclusion but it's weird that controller aiming is still so bad in 2023 compared to a mouse.

I will say I did get S ranks on all of the shooting ranges on controller but shooting all of the special targets was impossible, I gave up on that immediately.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/17/23 6:13:57 PM
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I beat this game 5 times back to back after launch. Killer.

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pjbasis
05/17/23 6:28:03 PM
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It's all about knowing ahead of time where the targets will be and putting your scope there already.

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XIII_Rocks
05/17/23 6:48:33 PM
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OK, I think Mercs may be an improvement on the original

I just did all four of the characters S-rank and had the time of my life

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FFDragon
05/17/23 6:58:20 PM
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pjbasis posted...
I think most characters were downgrades besides Leon, Mendez, Salazar, and Ashley (and I kinda like bratty ashley).

Luis had probably the biggest glowup out of all the remakes! Okay maybe Ashley and Luis are 1a and 1b.

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Then00bAvenger
05/17/23 7:08:24 PM
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The only character I was kind of disappointed with was Saddler(though wasn't a fan of Ada and Krauser's new voices)

In the original he was actually kind of endearing in a goofy way and they tried to go more serious villain with him in the remake but I didn't really feel any charisma so as a religious leader who everyone worships but with no charisma he just ended up falling flat for me. Everytime he appears it feels like he's just rambling on with religious nonsense

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pjbasis
05/17/23 7:20:46 PM
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I'll give you Luis wasn't a downgrade. I still think super suave Luis had better rivalry factor with Leon.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/17/23 7:21:33 PM
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Luis wasn't even a character in RE4 original. He just had a few memes to spout.

He's arguably the best character in the remake.

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XIII_Rocks
05/17/23 7:32:10 PM
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Luis in the original just wasn't in it enough. He was great whenever he was on screen but died fast after having like, four scenes? Leon's opinion of him wasn't explored much

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FFDragon
05/17/23 7:44:35 PM
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Making him part of the Nemesis Project and his lab being scavenged Umbrella parts was a great way to tie everything together and was enough to make me happy.

Exploring his whole childhood and connections to everything makes him to center point for the entire game.

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colliding
05/17/23 8:04:28 PM
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it was fun, but it lacked some of the creepy campiness of the original

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pjbasis
05/17/23 11:32:57 PM
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You guys are right I was always disappointed with his lack of screentime in the original and this felt more fleshed out.

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XIII_Rocks
05/17/23 11:48:20 PM
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colliding posted...
it was fun, but it lacked some of the creepy campiness of the original

Yes

Salazar was a downgrade I thought

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pjbasis
05/18/23 3:04:45 AM
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I thought Salazar was maybe creepier, but definitely missed all the "codec" scenes with him and Saddler.

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SHINE_GET_64
05/18/23 4:31:52 AM
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Finally popped the platinum on Sunday after sitting on it for several weeks. In the end both are great games and while I still maybe slightly prefer the original that's no slight against this game it's definitely a potential goty contender

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XIII_Rocks
05/18/23 5:56:58 AM
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If Salazar hadn't been creepier that would have been a failure. Like they were definitely shooting for that as opposed to the comedic childlike tantrum throwing guy from the original

But I prefer comedic childlike tantrum throwing guy

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ChichiriMuyo
05/18/23 6:10:23 AM
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XIII_Rocks posted...
I wanted so badly to hate it because of how unnecessary it is, but it was so great
I deem this anti-Calvinball. Playing by the same rules and parameters again can be comforting.

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NoFInBadger
05/19/23 6:16:15 PM
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....Wouldn't it be hard to screw a remake of a video game?

...I don't remember ever there being such, an occurrence.

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NoFInBadger
05/19/23 6:16:51 PM
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It's a good game but, really there's no incentive to play it more than once.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/19/23 8:41:45 PM
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NoFInBadger posted...
....Wouldn't it be hard to screw a remake of a video game?

...I don't remember ever there being such, an occurrence.

Flashback.

EA Goldeneye.

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pjbasis
05/19/23 11:15:31 PM
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Lots of remakes are bad

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kevwaffles
05/19/23 11:32:44 PM
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Hell RE3 Remake isn't exactly well loved while we're at it.

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XIII_Rocks
05/23/23 3:42:41 AM
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RE3 Remake was building off RE3 though, so it was always on a hiding to nothing

I think by the standards of being a remake of RE3, it was fairly good

But - and I know how overstated this is, but it should be repeated anyway - they need to give CVX this treatment before they do anything else.

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shane15
05/23/23 3:54:44 AM
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If they do CV i want the good team working on it.

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FFDragon
05/23/23 7:45:00 AM
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XIII_Rocks posted...
I think by the standards of being a remake of RE3, it was fairly good

Narrator: It was not.

(Except for Jill. Jill was the best)

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Dels
05/23/23 8:11:38 AM
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Eh, I'm not convinced that the RE3 team was "bad" so much as they were given no budget and no time. What's actually in the game is still good.
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XIII_Rocks
05/23/23 8:18:04 AM
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RE3make might be the only one I prefer to the original. Don't love either of them though. I think the worst crime is Capcom continuing to act like it's anything more than DLC, at least compared to every other main game in the series. I'd have been happy for them to just ignore 3 entirely if it meant remaking the actual RE3.

Like it's been 20 years, stop pretending

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shane15
05/23/23 9:17:52 AM
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I was never a massive fan of RE3 either. It's the worst of the classic games for me.

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FFDragon
05/23/23 9:39:06 AM
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RE4 remake is the biggest jump up over the original for me. RE3 remake is the only one I think got demonstrably worse.

RE2 original is better, but RE2make is good. REMake is better, but OG is good.

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05/23/23 10:13:42 AM
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XIII_Rocks posted...
RE3 Remake was building off RE3 though, so it was always on a hiding to nothing

I think by the standards of being a remake of RE3, it was fairly good

But - and I know how overstated this is, but it should be repeated anyway - they need to give CVX this treatment before they do anything else.
I think RE5 and even another RE1 remakes are much more likely than CVX.

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FFDragon
05/23/23 12:10:24 PM
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Considering Wesker has been in like ten seconds of the past three remakes I feel like you have to redo cvx before 5

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shane15
05/23/23 1:43:34 PM
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Wesker's scenes in CV were all great.

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FFDragon
05/23/23 2:07:35 PM
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He straight up backfists Claire into another timezone. As an opener.

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05/23/23 7:56:18 PM
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FFDragon posted...
Considering Wesker has been in like ten seconds of the past three remakes I feel like you have to redo cvx before 5
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd be happy with a CVX remake, but it wouldn't draw the same money to Capcom as remaking 1 or 5.

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Snake5555555555
05/23/23 8:21:57 PM
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What's really the base for that thought though? What reason would there be for it to sell much less than any other main Resident Evil that's come out in the past decade plus?

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pjbasis
05/23/23 9:12:52 PM
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RE3 was not even a good remake of 3 though.

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05/23/23 9:14:04 PM
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First, that its title implies it's a spinoff instead of a mainline game, second, that it's just straight-up much less well-known than 2, 3, 4, or even 5, third, that it's the only mainline game you can't already get on modern hardware, which makes it less accessible and therefore famous and beloved, and fourth, it's just a really awkward game compared to most in the series.

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GANON1025
05/23/23 9:18:42 PM
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I really do hope they remake CV, I think that could be super cool

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Dels
05/23/23 9:33:08 PM
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I get that it would have less name recognition but I also kinda feel that if Capcom announces it as the next big game in the REmake series on that engine it'd still have a good amount of star power. Even if people didn't play it they'd gather it was a cult classic and feel they missed out or w/e and now they can play a modern version of the undiscovered gem
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Snake5555555555
05/23/23 9:57:26 PM
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Dels posted...
I get that it would have less name recognition but I also kinda feel that if Capcom announces it as the next big game in the REmake series on that engine it'd still have a good amount of star power. Even if people didn't play it they'd gather it was a cult classic and feel they missed out or w/e and now they can play a modern version of the undiscovered gem

Yeah this is pretty much my thoughts on it too. I think Resident Evil is just too big a franchise to not sell like hotcakes, especially the remakes & even for a slightly lesser-known game like Code Veronica.

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FFDragon
05/23/23 10:09:22 PM
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RE3Make is Capcom's 11th best selling game of all time.

Somehow I think the RE name alone would carry a CV remake to solid returns.

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colliding
05/23/23 10:15:17 PM
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Call this one Resident Evil V(eronica)

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FFDragon
05/23/23 10:27:31 PM
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You make the trailer the opening cutscene of Claire and the helicopter, insta million preorders tbqh

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YoBlazer
05/23/23 10:45:13 PM
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Then00bAvenger posted...
People who full comp that on console must be pros, god damn
I almost gave up but didn't want to disappoint SHINE sensei

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Dels
05/24/23 1:08:19 AM
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colliding posted...
Call this one Resident Evil V(eronica)

actually a great idea lmao

i don't know if they could get away with that because of the confusion with 5 but i mean considering Mortal Kombat 1 is coming out it seems in line with modern trends.
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