Board 8 > The Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom Discussion Zone

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Still have one of the main dungeons to go and any MSQ that comes after, but I've got the Master Sword, all the Memories, the Sages other than Gerudo, about 120 shrines.

Ultimately, I think the game relies too much on the same trick and loses some of the magic. BOTW did this too, but it actually feels a bit worse here. Like I remember thinking how cool the first green gem puzzle was, and then I realized that every area in the sky basically repeats it. Same deal with the labyrinths and dungeons.

Also, it seems like there's too many "Blessing Shrines" where you don't even get a puzzle. Most of the time it makes sense because "getting to the shrine" was the puzzle, but there's been a few that feel like they just forgot to put a puzzle in there.

So far the story is fantastic for a Zelda game, and there has been some genuine tension/emotion in some of the cutscenes, more than anything I got from BOTW's main game (I will admit that Champion's Ballad was pretty good). Getting the Master Sword in this game is like the coolest ever.

Imagine what the dungeons would be like if the objectives weren't marked on your map. That might be too hard, but it'd make the dungeons feel a bit less checklisty. Having the same "do these 4/5 things" in every dungeon makes them feel more repetitive than they are. I generally enjoyed the dungeons, but dress it up a little differently, please. Technically all Zelda dungeons in each individual game have you doing the same things, but they feel different. This game does a better job at that than the Divine Beasts, I just think it could be better.

the cutscenes for beating each dungeon being identical is legit bad though.

colliding posted...

Also, it seems like there's too many "Blessing Shrines" where you don't even get a puzzle. Most of the time it makes sense because "getting to the shrine" was the puzzle, but there's been a few that feel like they just forgot to put a puzzle in there.

Otsutsum Shrine on the middle of the western edge of the map. I just casually strolled in, since it's easily visible and accessible, and it's a Blessing?? There's a couple like this that confused me. Some that are hard to get to still have puzzles, too. Definitely confusing.

I turn off the objectives usually; I turn them on for the floating labyrinths since they're just boring otherwise, and there's been a few quests where I used them just because it seemed too time consuming such as that quest that asks you to offer bananas to the four random Yiga frogs. Most of the time I've been trying to play "pro mode-lite" where I have the map up there but no active quests going.

Anyway, all this to say I disagree that not marking the objectives in the dungeons would make them too hard. It actually makes them too easy!

Haven't touched the story still at 100 hours what am I doing

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/3/AABHd9AAEhU7.jpg

You've been working for Hestu...

colliding posted...

I turn off the objectives usually; I turn them on for the floating labyrinths since they're just boring otherwise, and there's been a few quests where I used them just because it seemed too time consuming such as that quest that asks you to offer bananas to the four random Yiga frogs. Most of the time I've been trying to play "pro mode-lite" where I have the map up there but no active quests going.

Anyway, all this to say I disagree that not marking the objectives in the dungeons would make them too hard. It actually makes them too easy!

The neat thing is that most quest objective markers aren't that useful. They usually mark the location of the quest-giver, not the objectives. I didn't even realize until the final labyrinth that it marked the location of the switches, haha. Guess the labyrinths and dungeons are the exception.

GranzonEx posted...

You've been working for Hestu...

Psh that's barely any korok seeds

Hey, you only need 421 to unlock all inventory slots. He's making good progress.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Psh that's barely any korok seeds

Do you actively look for them? I've done almost the entire map and I have about 150. Kinda hard to imagine they could fit so many in one or two regions.

there's a mask that helps

GranzonEx posted...

You've been working for Hestu...

I still haven't found hestu (but I haven't been specifically looking for him, not that I'd know where to start)

I look somewhat actively for Korok seeds, but it's just as much simply exploring everywhere.

I think his location is random. I saw him while paragliding and thought he was a korok in need of reaching a friend until I landed next to him and saw how big he was lol.

GranzonEx posted...

I think his location is random. I saw him while paragliding and thought he was a korok in need of reaching a friend until I landed next to him and saw how big he was lol.

I found him Standing basically on the road if you began going northwest towards Rito Village after doing the main quests around Lookout Landing. After upgrading inventory I think twice he said he'd go east and he's been standing in Lookout Landing since.

notdave posted...

there's a mask that helps

Yep got this recently. I went all the way to the boss when I began the game as I was exploring but couldn't beat it because my weapons sucked.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I found him Standing basically on the road if you began going northwest towards Rito Village after doing the main quests around Lookout Landing. After upgrading inventory I think twice he said he'd go east and he's been standing in Lookout Landing since.

Yep then it's random. I found him on a mountain getting attacked by bokoblins. He did move to Lookout Landing afterwards.

I've noticed that they put two identical Korok puzzles literally right next to each in northern Faron. Seems like an oversight lol.

GranzonEx posted...

Yep then it's random. I found him on a mountain getting attacked by bokoblins. He did move to Lookout Landing afterwards.

I have at least heard of others meeting him the same place as me, so maybe it's based on which of a set locations you go to first or how far you are or something like that. I think it was similar in BotW.

GranzonEx posted...

Do you actively look for them? I've done almost the entire map and I have about 150. Kinda hard to imagine they could fit so many in one or two regions.

Yes, and there's about 70ish per map area.

notdave posted...

there's a mask that helps

Mask is for casuals B-)

(yes, I'm aware that gatekeeping gathering Koroks is silly)

HanOfTheNekos posted...

You might find it helpful to finish a main quest thing to get the rest of the unlocks. I did the Impa quest without doing that section because it's right on the edge.

Yeah, I actually did do that region first and then went on to beat the Wind Temple. I now see what you mean lol. Though I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything. Considering how many times I thought to myself "isn't this area way more snowy than it was in the first game" I could've probably put 2 and 2 together.

Still got lots of Hebra to explore.

I think the road to the Wind Temple is the most fun I've ever had in a Zelda game platforming, even if it was relatively simple. Boss fight was quite fun.

I've gotten pretty good at predicting what areas (boss spoiler) Phantom Ganon is likely to be in as I wander around.

Is there anywhere to get armor with cold resistance at this point of the game without paying an extremely high amount of rupees?

I just cook spicy peppers to make a potion. That's how I got through much of Hebra.

Tutorial Island has some cold resistant pants in the cold area.

Isn't the cold resist Tunic like 500 rupees? That's one of the cheapest armors in the game, maybe the actual cheapest. I'd just suck it up and buy the tunic and use the tutorial pants with it.

Yeah cooking spicy peppers work, I was mostly just curious about looting as to not have the last place I look in Hebra coincidentally be where an armor was or something. 500 rupees feels like a good bit this early tbh, but it works. One of the set pieces cost 1000 I thought that was the armor lol.

Also after beating the wind temple it seems as if some places have become colder than before? I definitely seem to recall not taking damage wandering around the tower in the area right of the NW most when wearing the pants from the tutorial area but I am now.

Maybe you were carrying a fire weapon/shield previously, which raises your temperature

WazzupGenius00 posted...

Maybe you were carrying a fire weapon/shield previously, which raises your temperature

...oh. What a hack

ctesjbuvf posted...

Yeah, I actually did do that region first and then went on to beat the Wind Temple. I now see what you mean lol. Though I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything. Considering how many times I thought to myself "isn't this area way more snowy than it was in the first game" I could've probably put 2 and 2 together.

Still got lots of Hebra to explore.

I think the road to the Wind Temple is the most fun I've ever had in a Zelda game platforming, even if it was relatively simple. Boss fight was quite fun.

Actually, the reason to do it is now to return to Lookout Landing and speak to Josha.

Wow the fifth sage fucking sucks

it wouldve maybe been alright much earlier in the game but monster health is too high at this point for it to be worth anything

Yeah, it's just a glorified rock breaker IMO

BOTW had a similar problem where the cool ways to kill stuff like explosions, or boulders, or even knocking them off of cliffs, just stopped working halfway through the game because the damage for them doesnt scale up

got all the shrines but only 29/31 shrine quests >_<

Yeah, that can happen. Some shrine quests are just hints to shrines you could find on your own. I know there's one for the rito area

ah cool, found a list and completed them

I've really scaled back my playing.

119 Lightroots
60ish Shrines
80ish Koroks
Still only one dungeon (wind)

I've been feeling the fatigue in a way that didn't hit me with BotW's first playthrough.

I had fatigue for a bit around the 3/4 mark, but I'm back into it. Even went crazy and cleared out the lightroots, which I hadn't been very thorough on for a while. Up to 150 Shrines and 119 Lightroots, cleared all the side adventures I had, left some of the boring side quests, just about ready to start the endgame (though I never got the fifth sage lol - I found the place where I think it is, but it's too foggy there, which I'm hoping clears up...).

Had to take a brief break because my controller died but now I've finished the game. Final area was nowhere near as good as Hyrule Castle in Breath of the Wild but the final boss was great, aside from the dragon form being kind of lame, looked cool but was awkward to actually play. Basically Dark Beast Ganon with better aesthetics but worse gameplay. Ganondorf in all his humanish phases were super cool though, definitely better than Calamity Ganon was and I liked Calamity Ganon to begin with.

Finally finished yesterday with all the lightroots and shrines. Somehow only got around 80 korok seeds because I'm really bad at spotting them. I never felt the urge to see all the shrines in BOTW, but I think the connection between the lightroots and shrines makes both more accessible without outside help.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Actually, the reason to do it is now to return to Lookout Landing and speak to Josha.

Ah okay. Just did. Seems like it was still fine exploring that area first? Not really a lot there.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Ah okay. Just did. Seems like it was still fine exploring that area first? Not really a lot there.

Did you get her next quest after finishing the first regional phenomenon in Hebra?

haven't seen anyone mention it, but if you're annoyed by how hard some caves are to find: drop a fruit in the bowl in front of a cherry blossom tree

this was such a big help

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Did you get her next quest after finishing the first regional phenomenon in Hebra?

Yeah. The one about the underground right

ctesjbuvf posted...

Yeah. The one about the underground right

Yeah. Did you do it?

I just find that exploring everywhere is a mite easier after you get autobuild and can just build things to go up and around real quick

I got the final normal reward from Koltin and he told me he now wants all 101 Bubbelgems left.

Oy...

I'm also a card carrying member of the Caves n Wells Fanclub. Better than Shrines in this game.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Yeah. Did you do it?

I just find that exploring everywhere is a mite easier after you get autobuild and can just build things to go up and around real quick

I did now. I see what you mean, thanks. No too big deal not having had it there but it'll be good. Also made the dephts a lot more interesting, nice.

Grand_Kirby posted...

I got the final normal reward from Koltin and he told me he now wants all 101 Bubbelgems left.

Oy...

yeah I was pretty annoyed when that happened

half the stuff he gave out wasnt unique anyway. just keep giving out periodic monster part rewards!

Ill support you, President Hudson!