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Slayer_22
05/08/23 5:58:34 PM
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I've yet to see RoS. Took me playing Fallen Order and watching Mandalorian to be interested in it again.

To this day I can't fathom how bad that movie is. Superman Leia, Luke being a trash written character, SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS.

Bleh.

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dameon_reaper
05/08/23 5:59:11 PM
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Its the opposite for me. Rise of Skywalker is what ruined my mood. TLJ was good.
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ironman2009
05/08/23 5:59:13 PM
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RoS is actually somehow worse.

also Rose is an F tier character.

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Bleuets
05/08/23 5:59:51 PM
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Please, for the love of God, dont see RoS. Youll never be interested in Star Wars again.

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Tyranthraxus
05/08/23 6:01:56 PM
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I hated TFA so much that I looked up spoilers for TLJ ahead of its release and that was so bad I stopped caring about star wars in general.

I really liked Rey as a character though so it kind of sucks that everything else was awful.

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Slayer_22
05/08/23 6:03:20 PM
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ironman2009 posted...
RoS is actually somehow worse.

also Rose is an F tier character.
I thought her sister was hotter. Rose having a random pointless side adventure and then falling in love with Finn and crashing into him and them kissing was so cringe I literally couldn't help but roll my eyes.

I honestly can't see how it's worse. I legitimately can't. I believe it...I just can't envision it.

Bleuets posted...
Please, for the love of God, dont see RoS. Youll never be interested in Star Wars again.
I've been told I need to see it for the comedic value but...fuck, this gets me sad.

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Slayer_22
05/08/23 6:04:43 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
I hated TFA so much that I looked up spoilers for TLJ ahead of its release and that was so bad I stopped caring about star wars in general.

I really liked Rey as a character though so it kind of sucks that everything else was awful.
I liked Rey, Finn, and Kylo a ton. I actually enjoyed TFA for what it was, I felt it was a fun romp and was excited to see what else we could get out of these characters, even if was just ANHx2.

TLJ stomped on that.

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Southernfatman
05/08/23 6:04:45 PM
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Same. TFA was a safe soft reboot, but I was still interested in the characters and where the story was going even if it would be a predictable redo of the OT. TLJ just killed my interest. I've seen the first season of The Mandalorian, but that's it.

I hate how if you don't like TLJ you're automatically considered a whiny fanboy and possibly a bigot too. It's bullshit how any criticism of it is met with "Oh, you're just mad because you didn't get EU Luke Skywalker and you hate Holdo because she's a woman!" and other crap.

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dummy420
05/08/23 6:04:51 PM
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Samesies. I still enjoy the Mandalorian but I dont really rush to see anything star wars to include that. Rogue One was decent.

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Slayer_22
05/08/23 6:05:37 PM
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dummy420 posted...
Samesies. I still enjoy the Mandalorian but I dont really rush to see anything star wars to include that. Rogue One was decent.
Rogue One was pretty good. I HAVE gotten back into SW due to Mando and Fallen Order, but...yeah, I'm not in a rush to see it anymore.

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BurmesePenguin
05/08/23 6:09:26 PM
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I think Last Jedi is pretty bad, but it had some ideas and thoughts on the matter of Star Wars. I don't think Johnson had any idea where to take most of them, but whatever. Themes and concepts existed.

Ridging the Skywalker is not even a proper movie. It's a reaction to a backlash doing everything to make the upset fans happy again and in the effort sacrificing anything to make it appealing as a viewing experience except for those 12 year old man children who just want their swoshy neon sword fights NO POLITICS.
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Monferno_AQW
05/08/23 6:11:21 PM
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Over the years, I've come to realize that TLJ is my favorite of the ST, while TFA is probably my least favorite. Despite its flaws, I like that TLJ tried to do something different, unlike TFA, which played things too safe.

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Fin_Dawg_004
05/08/23 6:14:00 PM
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TLJ>TFA>>>ROS

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HylianFox
05/08/23 6:15:18 PM
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I didn't think it'd be possible to outdo the prequels in suckiness, but... they found a way.

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Zero_Destroyer
05/08/23 6:15:38 PM
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TLJ is the most interesting of the three because it tries to actually be something. It's not very good but I'll take thematic references to the Prequels over whatever the fuck was going on in Rise of Skywalker

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dameon_reaper
05/08/23 6:17:05 PM
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I think the only problem with TLJ(for me) was that it was trying to cut away at some of what was introduced in the movie before it.

Like Rey and Finn's relationship as well as Finn's force sensitivity. I felt like he should have been a Trooper turned Jedi but instead, he gets put off to the side and then completely destroyed in the movie after it.
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Notti
05/08/23 6:19:54 PM
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TFA put me to sleep how boring and safe it was. Whatta snore.

Slayer_22 posted...
I liked Rey, Finn, and Kylo a ton. I actually enjoyed TFA for what it was, I felt it was a fun romp and was excited to see what else we could get out of these characters, even if was just ANHx2.

TLJ stomped on that.


I found Rey to be uninspired. Finn was bleh and meh, either a lump on a log or embarrassing, especially beyond tfa. Kylo was so lamely constructed as a ragey villain I actively disliked him. Anti cool. I never wanted to see him again.


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Aressar
05/08/23 6:21:20 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...
SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS.

https://youtu.be/5S4Ss5bK-ws

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BlackOmnimon
05/08/23 6:21:43 PM
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TLJ was the one good ST movie

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HylianFox
05/08/23 6:23:50 PM
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Notti posted...
Kylo was so lamely constructed as a ragey villain I actively disliked him. Anti cool. I never wanted to see him again.

Kylo Ren was a dweeb from scene one and never once did I find him interesting or threatening.
He just screamed "loser kid who thinks he's badass". At least the movies kinda call him out on that, but it didn't help.

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Pikachuchupika
05/08/23 6:25:05 PM
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If they can get the same people that worked on Mandalorian to do a Star wars movie, I would have high hopes they can do it right.
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Southernfatman
05/08/23 6:25:24 PM
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Aressar posted...


If only TLJ had Rich Evans...

HylianFox posted...
Kylo Ren was a dweeb from scene one and never once did I find him interesting or threatening.
He just screamed "loser kid who thinks he's badass". At least the movies kinda call him out on that, but it didn't help.

I thought that was the point of it. I don't think it's a bad idea, if done right, which they didn't.

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Punished_Blinx
05/08/23 6:25:26 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
I think Last Jedi is pretty bad, but it had some ideas and thoughts on the matter of Star Wars. I don't think Johnson had any idea where to take most of them, but whatever. Themes and concepts existed

I think his plan would have been that Luke's heroism was going to reignite people discovering they too could use the Force and sparking a new rebellion lead by the new generation of Rey, Finn etc. while also seeing the impact of someone like Kylo Ren getting the power and authority he felt like he was owed.

Would be cool to hear what his third movie would have been but I doubt we will.

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BurmesePenguin
05/08/23 6:26:27 PM
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HylianFox posted...
Kylo Ren was a dweeb from scene one and never once did I find him interesting or threatening.
I think that's kind of an issue with TLJ really. He's not threatening. He's a little tantrum-riddled child.

So when TLJ decides to make him the new emperor there's nothing to make me feel afraid.

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Kim_Seong-a
05/08/23 6:26:50 PM
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I hated TLJ but it was RoS that ultimately killed my interest in Star Wars.

I can tolerate shitty movies but what does me in is...whatever the hell Abrams was doing with that last one. God it sucked so much lol.

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HylianFox
05/08/23 6:28:11 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Not like Snoke was a remotely interesting character, though.

Hardly any of the new ST characters were interesting, especially since TLJ threw out everything TFA tried to set up for them.

>_>

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dameon_reaper
05/08/23 6:28:30 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
I think that's kind of an issue with TLJ really. He's not threatening. He's a little tantrum-riddled child.

So when TLJ decides to make him the new emperor there's nothing to make me feel afraid.

Not like Snoke was a remotely interesting character, though.

That could have been different if they were to spin it on its head in the following movie but they didn't. They used the finale to completely try to destroy what happened the movie prior to it. It was like every movie after The Force Awakens was trying to destroy the canon before it.
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DarkBuster22904
05/08/23 6:30:33 PM
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The character assassination of Luke Skywalker is what poisons the well.

I'm sorry. I dont care how "human" it is, post ROTJ Luke would never even consider executing Ben in cold blood. Not even for a second. And he CERTAINLY wouldn't fuck off to mope himself to death, leaving his friends and family to die at the hands of a mess he made.

Luke was meant to be the Superman character. The incorruptible force, who succeeded in all the places where his father failed. Anakin's power with Padme's compassion. The actual hope for the future, the Jedi's wisdom tempered with actual love. Yes, it's unrealistic. You know what else is unrealistic? Goddamn space wizards. It's a fantasy. It's like writing a sequel to Lord of the Rings where Aragorn decided to genocide the shire out of fear that lingering Ring corruption would get Sam.

What we're left with is a Luke whose arc barely matters. He's gone from a narrative foil to vader, to just a stepping stone in Vader and Rey's stories to prop them up.

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Southernfatman
05/08/23 6:34:32 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
The character assassination of Luke Skywalker is what poisons the well.

I'm sorry. I dont care how "human" it is, post ROTJ Luke would never even consider executing Ben in cold blood. Not even for a second. And he CERTAINLY wouldn't fuck off to mope himself to death, leaving his friends and family to die another the hands of a mess he made.

Luke was meant to be the Superman character. The incorruptible for e, who succeeded in all the places where his father failed. Anakin's power with Padme's compassion. Tye actual hope for the future, the Jedi's wisdom tempered with actual love. Yes, it's unrealistic. You know what else is unrealistic? Goddamn space wizards. It's a fantasy. It's like writing a sequel to Lord of the Rings where Aragorn decided to genocide the shire out of fear that lingering Ring corruption would get Sam.

What we're left with is a Luke whose arc barely matters. He's gone from a narrative foil to vader, to just a stepping stone in Vader and Rey's stories to prop them up.


I don't get why people are so against the idea of that either. Why does every character have to be flawed and have to be jaded and cynical and be at a super low point? What's so wrong with Luke being a successful Jedi with a whole school? And why is it seen as a negative to want something like that?

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HylianFox
05/08/23 6:35:37 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
I don't get why people are so against the idea of that either. Why does every character have to be flawed and have to be jaded and cynical and be at a super low point? What's so wrong with Luke being a successful Jedi with a whole school? And why is it seen as a negative to want something like that?

We could have had an epic 'Young Jedi Knight' series, but nooooooooo....

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BurmesePenguin
05/08/23 6:35:40 PM
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HylianFox posted...
Hardly any of the new ST characters were interesting, especially since TLJ threw out everything TFA tried to set up for them.

>_>
I liked Poe...
Rey was fine, I guess
BB8 was cute
And honestly I enjoyed tantrum Kylo. He was a fun take on the sith opposition unlike the cool and composed Vader, the mindlessly dreary Maul, the "ho ho I'm an old man with a beard!" Dooku and the CGI blob with a cough.
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Southernfatman
05/08/23 6:39:33 PM
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HylianFox posted...
We could have had an epic 'Young Jedi Knight' series, but nooooooooo....

Yeah, but that's what people would expect, so that's bad...for some reason. Don't you want your hero to be a cynical, hopeless asshole?

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EyeWontBeFooled
05/08/23 6:40:24 PM
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dameon_reaper posted...
Its the opposite for me. Rise of Skywalker is what ruined my mood. TLJ was good.


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lilORANG
05/08/23 6:40:31 PM
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I was planning to skip TROS bc TLJ was so bad. But then my buddy wanted to see it on his bachelor's party opening night so I went and it was terrible, but for very different reasons than TLJ. Both are bad but TROS is at least funny bc it's bad.

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mehmeh1
05/08/23 6:42:49 PM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
I think his plan would have been that Luke's heroism was going to reignite people discovering they too could use the Force and sparking a new rebellion lead by the new generation of Rey, Finn etc. while also seeing the impact of someone like Kylo Ren getting the power and authority he felt like he was owed.

Would be cool to hear what his third movie would have been but I doubt we will.
AFAIK the original script for ep IX is public. From what I hear it wasn't that great, but at least it didn't actively undo the movie before it

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apocalyptic_4
05/08/23 6:43:17 PM
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TLJ is the best of the sequel trilogy imo return of Skywalker was absolutely awful.

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sabin017
05/08/23 6:52:49 PM
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The problem with RoS is I felt absolutely nothing watching it, numbness, and IDK if it was result of the damage already done by TLJ and/or the PT. TFA is the best ST film though.

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Doom_Art
05/08/23 6:55:40 PM
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Five years later people still bitching about that movie lol

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Southernfatman
05/08/23 6:56:40 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Five years later people still bitching about that movie lol

I didn't know there was a time limit on discussing movies. And how dare people not like a movie from a franchise they love and continue discussing why they don't.

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Doom_Art
05/08/23 6:58:32 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
I didn't know there was a time limit on discussing movies. And how dare people not like a movie from a franchise they love and continue discussing why they don't.
The reasons are just always so... dumb though

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Smashingpmkns
05/08/23 6:58:47 PM
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TFA and RoS are objectively worse films than TLJ. Just straight up paint by numbers movie making with no soul. TLJ gets way too much hate for a handful of silly scenes, like the Leia thing, and too much hate for cool as fuck scenes like the throne room duel and the warp speed crash.

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Ryven
05/08/23 6:59:53 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...
I've yet to see RoS. Took me playing Fallen Order and watching Mandalorian to be interested in it again.

To this day I can't fathom how bad that movie is. Superman Leia, Luke being a trash written character, SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS.

Bleh.


You made it a little farther than me. After TLJ i was just completely done. No RoS, Mandalorian, nothing. No desire to see them.

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Ryven
05/08/23 7:01:22 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Five years later people still bitching about that movie lol


People still bitch about Scream 3 being bad and it's much older. Does that make it a good movie now?

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BurmesePenguin
05/08/23 7:02:28 PM
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Ryven posted...
People still bitch about Scream 3 being bad and it's much older. Does that make it a good movie now?
I would blame the people thinking that watching a horror movie sequel was a good idea.
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Southernfatman
05/08/23 7:03:01 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
The reasons are just always so... dumb though

Not liking how the story and characters went is not dumb nor is not liking a certain scene that makes no sense in the broader series.

You know, I'm fine with people who like it. I don't get it, but whatever floats their boat. I don't say they're stupid for liking it. I see a lot more derision from fans of it towards the "haters" than the other way around even if those who don't like it are more vocal.

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DarkBuster22904
05/08/23 7:04:44 PM
#48:


Smashingpmkns posted...
the throne room duel
Dude, that fight is dogshit. Yeah, the prequel fights are silly and overchoreographed, but at least they're WELL overchoreographed. Rey and Kylo were fighting so badly in that scene that it boggles the mind how the director justifies their surviving.

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Doom_Art
05/08/23 7:04:58 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
I see a lot more derision from fans of it towards the "haters" than the other way around
No you don't lol

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Prestoff
05/08/23 7:06:42 PM
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Yeah the biggest sin was trying to subvert expectations by being a giant dead end to all the mysteries set up in TFA which is ultimately what made it a very bad SW movie. I think as a movie, TLJ is pretty decent.

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