Board 8 > [VGMC] Video Game Music Contest 17 - Bracket Discussion and Results Thread!!

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banshiryuu
05/05/23 12:36:31 AM
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Important Links
Bracket: https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=477304
Contest info sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SAJKYJmYhccLvbf_H-5uSA7-eMwXfW8k1q74Qho1bLU
Main bracket playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT3m7iohpL0wlcxj-kHQRU1yHo-kpMxGe
Discord: https://discord.gg/WDvMS4a
Last years spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_IU5iCFTM_4WEx8ZWKwznMz5v2tarCKh1Ag0mxIgAes
VGMC total stats sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1XdLWiUKB2kX99qYBgnRbLU_sCz4dvZSByKKJHCT6o

How do I vote??
Every day we'll be posting three head-to-head matches for a total of six songs. It's as simple as listening completely through both songs in a given match, then posting your vote for your favorite! So long as you complete the very important "listen completely through" you can even just vote in a few matches. We'll be posting the loop points on all the songs in the topic so you know exactly how long you have to listen for to hear all of them. Voting will be up for a full 24 hours from the second the day's topic is posted, and closes after 24 hours on the dot. Be careful!! If the topic is posted early by some amount for some reason, then voting will end the next top of the hour after 24 hours have passed.

If you anticipate being away for a few days, feel free to post advance votes either here in this thread, or send them via DM to @banshiryuu !!

When're we starting!?
NOW GO GO GO GO GO!!! ... Just kidding! Day 1 will go up at 10pm Eastern time on Friday, May 12th! It's just a tad over a week away from the posting of this thread, so you have plenty of time to get your bracket predictions in on Bracketmaker. Granted, predictions for each Bracket will only close a bit into each respective bracket anyway.

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ZelRaat
05/05/23 5:51:57 AM
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wow that was fast
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Waveshine_2001
05/05/23 5:55:13 AM
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my vote for every match is just going to be Id Purpose, and nobody can stop me/j

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pyresword
05/05/23 12:55:24 PM
#4:


Oh I missed this topic last night tag.

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Arti
05/05/23 12:57:37 PM
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there goes bracket

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Gall
05/06/23 7:30:17 PM
#6:


Excited for this! I've been lurking around since VGMC14, but for whatever reason I didn't get too much into it. That finally changed last year, I listened to (almost) the whole bracket and there were so many amazing songs I never would've heard of otherwise. So now I'm going to actually participate and thank everyone for their contributions! I haven't listened to any of the songs yet since I want to save them for the matches, so I'll say in advance that even if I don't personally like a song, I still appreciate the experience of listening to it for the contest.

Also, I'm currently working on putting together playlists for all the previous VGMCs that don't have them. The links are in my signature, so feel free to listen and let me know if there's any mistakes.

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KCF0107
05/06/23 8:30:37 PM
#7:


Finally done with "predictions"

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PIayer_0
05/07/23 1:58:28 AM
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Hastily completed favourites:

Bracket A: The First Campaign, Purna, Crocus, Nilah, the Joy Unbound
Bracket B: Apex of the World (Rain), Shutoko - Spiral Maze, Let's Dance, Boys!, The Best Is Yet to Come
Bracket C: Another Winter, Glider, For All of You, Temporal Tower
Bracket D: Memories in the Mist, Don't speak her name!, hinagiku, Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke

I have to say, I still find it hard to get excited over a 256-song bracket. 6 new songs every day for 43 days! With no breaks! By all measures, year 14 actually took longer than 15 and 16 (192 songs being offset by ToC and wildcards), yet felt less draining. It's just easier to keep track of storylines for 192 songs, and the milestones and breaks brought by ToC and wildcards helped to maintain momentum.

It'd be nice to add some of those breaks, or at least speed up round 1 by starting with a "super week" or doing more matches on weekends. It's probably too much to ask this year, but I'll at least do my own experiment by listening ahead so I can make my own break days.

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andylt
05/07/23 9:02:38 AM
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I had meant to say this earlier, but thanks a lot for adjusting the nominations this year. I think the new system worked really well, it was a less daunting task to listen to everything and there was no ridiculous rush like last time. IDK if there was a more evenly spread set of noms across the users/days (it certainly worked out well for me >_>) but I'd be happy to use this system again.

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banshiryuu
05/11/23 8:54:05 AM
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Slight bump, we're just over 36 hours away from the fun beginning!
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azuarc
05/11/23 9:15:12 AM
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omg, and I still haven't finished bracket C! /panic

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pyresword
05/12/23 9:48:35 AM
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Due to not having time to really listen to nominations I know a lot less of the bracket than usual, but I guess I'll post the retirees from my favorites bracket anyways

A. HODO < Wind Scene > J-E-N-O-V-A > Layer Cake
B. Ring Ring Ring < Duel in the Mist > The Sunleth Waterscape > Epicentre
C. The Dreadful Fight < Until > Koi Yume > Divine Song of a Certain Dragon
D. They Who Govern Reason < EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/. > Dancing Mad > Sight of Silence

I'm sure this is wrong somewhere if only because there's bound to be at least one song I like a lot that I missed. Bracket A and B seem somewhat weaker right now so I could easily see my preferred winners changing once I actually hear all the songs. A bit surprising that I have a Final Fantasy retiree in every division. This might just be because I'm familiar with FF music which definitely provides an advantage in hastily constructed favorites brackets, but these are probably all songs I like enough to nominate myself so whatever.

Anyway looking forward to the contest itself especially because it will be more of a discovery process than usual for me this year.

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FL81
05/12/23 1:06:30 PM
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A: Moonlight Concert < Samsara < Kimigatame 2016 > EXEC_DESPEDIA/.
B: Beware the Umbrella Left There Forever < Kanashimi no Mephisto < Mt. Pyre Exterior > Full Base
C: The Dreadful Fight < Catastrophe in Bhavaagra ~ Wonderful Heaven < Astebreed ~ The Void > Labyrinth IV - Echoing Library
D: Unused Song 2 < Town, Flow of Time, People < Fullmetal Fighter > EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/.

with B > D > C > A in terms of overall bracket ranking

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DoctorJimmy133
05/12/23 1:44:53 PM
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Alien < Give It a Shot < EXEC_DESPEDIA/. > Weapons Factory
Kanashimi no Mephisto < Apex of the World > The Amazon > Can You Feel the Sunshine?
Alabaster Icelands 1 < Sayonara ALL PHASE MIX > Second Warning > KSante, the Pride of Nazumah
Sight of Silence < Dont speak her name! < Got more raves? > sometimes i breathe

EXEC_DESPEDIA/. < Apex of the World < Got more raves? > Second Warning

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PLAYER_0
05/12/23 9:50:59 PM
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Bracketmaker stats for A1 before we hop into the matches! I'll do these bracket updates to hopefully give the contest a sense of progression.

Round 5 is the retirement milestone, so going by R4 and R5 appearances, the clear favourite is...HODO! A whopping 11 users took it to R4 and 5 had it as their retiree! Runner-ups:
Temple of Drifting Sands, appearing in 7 people's R4 and 2 people's R5
The First Campaign, appearing in 5 people's R4 and 1 person's R5 (hey that's me)
SINGI Remix and Techno Syndrome, appearing in 4 people's R4 and 3 people's R5

(disclaimer these are a small sample taken from a small group of people and are not confident predictions on their own)

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Isquen
05/12/23 9:55:04 PM
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I was about to go WHERE TOPIC and then read post 1 again.

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banshiryuu
05/12/23 10:11:17 PM
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WE LIVE

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80441720
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Mr_Lasastryke
05/13/23 6:20:12 AM
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Gall posted...
Also, I'm currently working on putting together playlists for all the previous VGMCs that don't have them. The links are in my signature, so feel free to listen and let me know if there's any mistakes.

this is really cool! i've always wanted to have playlists for the older contests but i was too lazy to make them myself.

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NFUN
05/13/23 4:12:07 PM
#19:


can we please not list the songs in the topic title this year?

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MacArrowny
05/13/23 5:14:56 PM
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I assume that's a joke post?

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KCF0107
05/13/23 5:29:13 PM
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nah, it's been something that a few people have clamored for over the years to make sure people don't show up just to vote for a select song or a few that are mentioned in the topic title.

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-hotdogturtle--
05/13/23 5:30:05 PM
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Not necessarily, if it's commenting on how song names have to be truncated sometimes to the point unreadability, which could unfairly influence voters joining based on the title (such as "NEFrostSt" vs "Zelda").

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azuarc
05/13/23 5:32:40 PM
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If there is a serious intent to push for this, I have my doubts that under most circumstances this will be an issue. I dealt with it year 10 with Undertale, and there's one individual who springs to mind who would do this but is no longer around, but squeezing 6 songs into a thread title has the potential to easily obscure songs with bait potential. Seems like mostly a non-issue.

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NFUN
05/13/23 5:32:42 PM
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KCF0107 posted...
nah, it's been something that a few people have clamored for over the years to make sure people don't show up just to vote for a select song or a few that are mentioned in the topic title.


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UF8
05/13/23 7:25:27 PM
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not opposed to the change tbh. it was really important in earlier years as waning interest was leading to the contest becoming fully unsustainable without in-title advertising like that for a while (9 moment) but now it's obviously fine. not to mention it'd be an excuse to advertise fun bonus polls and stuff instead
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azuarc
05/13/23 7:33:09 PM
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tmw your contest winner won't even get out of round 1.

A: Zelda Title < Vending Machine of Love < for you > Crystal Caves
B: Scream < KoaFC > My Dark Disquiet > TBIYTC
C: Training Course < Reach for the Summit < Everything's Alright > WORN OUT TAPES
D: Calling < It's Pizza Time! < To Far Away Times > Banbard (Piano)

for you < My Dark Disquiet < Everything's Alright > To Far Away Times

3 of my bracket winners came from the bottom-right, 2 from the final pairings.

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banshiryuu
05/13/23 11:48:52 PM
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Day 1 Results!

Title BGM 23 v 49 Northeast Frost Street
Menu 33 v 40 Kobito of the Shining Needle ~ Little Princess
Vs. Gullveig (Book VII Boss) 16 v 55 MNN+@0(Day)

Day 2: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80442828
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Haste_2
05/14/23 12:42:44 AM
#28:


I will celebrate whenever something I rate a 9.0+ wins a match, and there was one today! (Northeast Frost Street) It was only my third favorite that day, though....

I wouldn't mind seeing that change myself. For users that only vote in certain matches, I'm not sure hiding the song names in the topic titles will stop them, though. It's near the end of the contest when songs from popular games would tend to attract the most people.

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azuarc
05/14/23 1:31:35 AM
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Post 26: Me retiring the Zelda title
Post 27: Deo eliminating the Zelda title

Oh, VGMC. Never change.

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Janus5k
05/14/23 3:41:51 AM
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started 16 by winning one match in three days
started 17 by winning three matches in one day

you have my attention

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banshiryuu
05/14/23 10:23:42 PM
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Day 2 Results!

Temple of Drifting Sands 36 v 30 SINGI (Remix)
Alien 32 v 36 Samsara
MOONMAN'S Fandango 31 v 39 Techno Syndrome

Day 3: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80443918
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sergiocornaga
05/14/23 11:09:16 PM
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Gall
05/15/23 7:13:21 PM
#33:


There goes bracket

Hm, thats two days now where Ive technically been 2/3, but with the one match it was hard to decide my vote and Im still happy with the winner. Perhaps the way to VGMC zen is to find something to like about every song, so that every match is close for you.

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PLAYER_0
05/15/23 9:29:04 PM
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Bracketmaker stats for A2: Things are a lot more even! The Synapse - Ambient is the favourite with 6 R4's and 6 R5's, impressive! Runners-up:
Azure Archipelago and Baluchons also have 6 R4's, but only 2 and 1 R5 respectively
Vending Machine of Love, Moonlight Concert, and Yearnings of the Wind all have 4 R4's and 3 R5's

(not an official prediction yada yada...)

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banshiryuu
05/15/23 10:07:52 PM
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Day 3 Results!

Purple Town 41 v 25 Battlefield - The First Campaign (Etrian Odyssey Nexus Ver.)
HODO 42 v 23 Yeehaw DeliveryBoy
Moonlight Concert 35 v 33 Origin

Day 4: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80444935
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Prince46
05/15/23 10:20:41 PM
#36:


banshiryuu posted...

Moonlight Concert 35 v 33 Origin

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UF8
05/15/23 10:31:02 PM
#37:


if any song was going to kill origin, i'm glad it was moonlight, and in as respectable a fashion as possible

also phew on the other two. i'm intimidated by the possibility that people will attempt to bring either of those back in the future, but at least they're not actually strong here
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-hotdogturtle--
05/15/23 10:32:24 PM
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Pizza Tower's not going away, but it has a diverse and varied soundtrack to choose from.

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Janus5k
05/16/23 12:39:39 AM
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alright yeah that's more of what I expected

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FL81
05/16/23 2:58:08 AM
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Origin was a damn good song, and I almost voted for it!

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Gall
05/16/23 6:47:24 PM
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There goes bracket again... looks like I'm all in on the NULL APOPHENIA sweep.

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banshiryuu
05/16/23 10:04:52 PM
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Day 4 Results!

The Synapse - Ambient 41 v 26 Utopia Shelter - In the Depths
Purna 47 v 21 Give it a Shot
Vending Machine of Love 24 v 43 Yearnings of the Wind

Day 5: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80446196
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azuarc
05/16/23 10:57:06 PM
#43:


Why did it have to be Chrono Trigger?

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DoctorJimmy133
05/16/23 11:20:08 PM
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Well. No one can say a shot was not given.

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banshiryuu
05/17/23 10:14:41 PM
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Day 5 Results!

What I'm Made of... / Last Boss ver.2: Metal Overlord 27 v 36 Baluchons
Heal the World 14 v 49 Azure Archipelago
Bury The Light 27 v 34 We Are Burning Rangers (English Version)

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PLAYER_0
05/18/23 9:23:22 PM
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Bracketmaker stats for A3 are nice and ordered, that's how I like it! Lost Forest is the favourite with 10 R4's and 4 R5's - but close behind are Crystal Caves with 8 R4's/4 R5's and NULL APOPHENIA with 7 R4's/4 R5's. Crystal Caves was the first lock but it looks like Lost Forest is ready to challenge it here!

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banshiryuu
05/18/23 10:10:16 PM
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Day 6 Results!

Gnorman's Theme 20 v 46 Lost Painting
Weapons Factory 30 v 35 KANNANSHINKU
Windslash Steps 36 v 29 Shushi ~ Set You Free

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banshiryuu
05/20/23 10:09:26 PM
#48:


wait what how did i not post day 7 results lmao oops

Day 7 & 8 Results!

Main Theme 23 v 40 Journey To Candle Hill
Lost Forest 45 v 21 Back 2 Back
Kimigatame 2016 27 v 38 Ragna Breakers
NULL APOPHENIA 33 v 27 Layer Cake
Underwater Lv. 1/4 28 v 33 Crocus
Luma Pools 16 v 46 Crystal Caves

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PLAYER_0
05/21/23 12:39:45 AM
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Bracketmakers for A4 have a very narrow favourite - EXEC_DESPEDIA/. with 7 R4's and 3 R5's BUT you could argue for J-E-N-O-V-A, with 6 R4's and 5 R5's. Others:
Superior Probe - Underworks - Scenery with 6 R4's and 4 R5's
Nilah, the Joy Unbound and for you, each with 5 R4's and 3 R5's

It's shaping up to be the most interesting division of Bracket A!

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Gall
05/21/23 8:07:36 PM
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Going off todays poll, heres my rankings of the A1 one-rounders. Tier 1 are my favorites, Tier 2 are the ones I dont feel strongly about or dislike. Its really hard for me to directly compare songs so dont take the orderings within the tiers too seriously.

Tier 1: Menu, Yeehaw DeliveryBoy, Battlefield - The First Campaign (Etrian Odyssey Nexus Ver.), Alien

Tier 2: Title BGM, MOONMAN'S Fandango, Vs. Gullveig (Book VII Boss), SINGI (Remix)

And NULL APOPHENIA lives! Now if Underworks can get going on its run I might still have a chance here.

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