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Poorly
04/27/23 10:41:13 AM
#101:


Tennousu posted...
I can.

Also the last set of event missions came out for the last 200 gems.

Duh, of course, lol, though they also use 1 link.
Else how are you going to break boards and swinging? Speedroids mons can barely even tickle.
If I set a cyber jar will it be enough to gain the upper hand?

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Tennousu
04/27/23 12:02:51 PM
#102:


I think it is rather underhanded.

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Man, Tearl is hard to pilot, and so random.

Not helping that I fought two 'haha fuck Tearl' and misplayed against Dinomorphia (and in turn disabled my Tearl).

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legendarylemur
04/27/23 12:48:06 PM
#103:


Yeah Tears are praised by pros because the lines aren't obvious. Ngl, a lot of decks nowadays follow a blueprint, and Tear Ishizu actually reward you for figuring out off the wall lines or even not activating some effects out of anticipation of needing it down the line instead. You can just activate everything and win, mind you, but in mirrors or playing out of a deck that drew well, sometimes it's better to do other things.

I think one of the more interesting playstyles in my recent memory is PUNKs which actually have you keep track of LP as cost on top of other things like needing a decent hand resource. Sadly in most plays people devolve them into a single linear combo deck, which is why it does so bad outside the select players who bothered to learn the actually many many lines which lead to even better boards

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Tennousu
04/27/23 8:46:48 PM
#104:


I did my Tearls without Ishuzu and they're honestly fine. Like they can only recover the monsters (except Reinoheart) and not the S/T so if I have bad luck I can mill the S/T with almost no way to retrieve them back.

Or maybe it's just skill issue in that I have to 'mill better'.

But really IMO Ishuzu cards makes them insufferable. Why these things even got greenlit I have no idea.

...Kitkallos does too much though.

Edit: trying Eldlich + Tearls later. It's like Laundry Dragonmaid but better.

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legendarylemur
04/27/23 9:32:19 PM
#105:


Ban Kit, ban/limit all Ishizus, ban all just to be safe, or just keep 1 of each URs if they're greedy. Suddenly Tears are actually ok

Tear Branded will be really broken but the 2nd best deck will at least have some 20% rep. Branded doesn't lose anything by running Tears, so they'll almost basically be the same deck, but people are biased towards Branded so it's fine.

MD is running its meta at a breakneck pace. When it catches up... oh dear people are not gonna like it. Kashtira format is one of the worst formats in a very long time

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Tennousu
04/28/23 12:31:25 AM
#106:


lmao I thought the extra mission was 'duel 10 times' but it turns out to be 'win duel 10 times'.

I'm a YGO player for real now.

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legendarylemur
04/28/23 12:41:35 AM
#107:


People are acting like destroy mission is gonna take em ages or something. It's like 10-15 destroys? You can do that in a single duel basically

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Vortex_of_Hope
04/28/23 12:55:47 AM
#108:


legendarylemur posted...
People are acting like destroy mission is gonna take em ages or something. It's like 10-15 destroys? You can do that in a single duel basically

Do you actually play Master Duel? Because 90% of games are people surrendering once they realize they can't win. You can't destroy anything if your opponent surrenders.

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Tennousu
04/28/23 1:30:30 AM
#109:


legendarylemur posted...
People are acting like destroy mission is gonna take em ages or something. It's like 10-15 destroys? You can do that in a single duel basically

To be fair some decks don't have built-in destroy cards that is easy to access. Like Ancient Warriors which needs some effort to get them.

Nevermind 'draw the out' Raigeki and friends.

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legendarylemur
04/28/23 3:08:20 AM
#110:


Vortex_of_Hope posted...
Do you actually play Master Duel? Because 90% of games are people surrendering once they realize they can't win. You can't destroy anything if your opponent surrenders.
Just go second and run Raigekis and Dark Holes with chained monster negates via Sky Strikers or Forbidden Droplet? They're not asking you for 30 destructions, they're asking for flippin' 10 lmao

You can also just run MST/Twin Twister and just destroy your own cards lol

Also destroying by battle works. It took me like 3 duels to finish this

Then you can go first too. It's not like you actually lose anything from losing in the event battles

This is just whininess

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Tennousu
04/28/23 6:08:10 AM
#111:


If I want to make Tearl Despia to turbo out Masquerade the Tax Dragon, what should I put on the Despia side?

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Kim_Seong-a
04/29/23 2:39:57 AM
#112:


I benched Umi Stun...

...and brought out Mayakashi stun. >_>

Also nicked somebody's Salamangreat list off my match history and tried that. First time playing. Its pretty fun, though im still not sure what exactly it does.

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Tennousu
04/29/23 3:21:07 AM
#113:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
I benched Umi Stun...

...and brought out Mayakashi stun. >_>

Despicable.

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Kim_Seong-a
04/29/23 3:39:41 AM
#114:


Tennousu posted...
Despicable.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/4/AAe6eNAAEbbS.png

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Tennousu
04/29/23 4:15:45 AM
#115:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/4/AAe6eNAAEbbS.png

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/6/AAaBuVAAEbbe.jpg

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Poorly
04/29/23 4:29:03 AM
#116:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/4/AAe6eNAAEbbS.png
Weird she has the smug face like loli witches

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DocileOrangeCup
04/29/23 5:00:38 AM
#117:


Shinobird support when

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Poorly
04/29/23 5:25:18 AM
#118:


Decided to put more blue card in my fusion deck

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Poorly
04/29/23 5:36:03 AM
#119:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/8/AAfRsCAAEbb0.jpg

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legendarylemur
04/29/23 4:09:05 PM
#120:


Man, I should buy the JP cards instead since I'm mostly collecting now. Just feels shitty to have to buy shittier quality cards, like objectively, for more expensive

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Poorly
04/29/23 5:47:28 PM
#121:


legendarylemur posted...
Man, I should buy the JP cards instead since I'm mostly collecting now. Just feels shitty to have to buy shittier quality cards, like objectively, for more expensive
What's JP cards you want the most?

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DocileOrangeCup
04/29/23 8:47:27 PM
#122:


Hey if anyone wants to grab that Tyler the Great Warrior, the auction ends in 10 minutes.

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Tennousu
04/29/23 11:56:45 PM
#123:


To satisfy my gacha needs, I open 450 or so Legacy Pack.

Target: 3 Summoned Skulls.

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Calwings
04/30/23 1:07:57 AM
#124:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z08fyvXpGUI

Giving Dragon Link back Elpy and Eclipse Wyvern was a mistake. Also, #UnbanMasterPeace

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Tennousu
04/30/23 1:20:15 AM
#125:


Bricking with 3 of your '1 activation per turn' at hand sucks.

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Tennousu posted...
To satisfy my gacha needs, I open 450 or so Legacy Pack.

Target: 3 Summoned Skulls.

570 tickets and no Summoned Skull at all.

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Tennousu
04/30/23 2:33:01 AM
#126:


Tearl topdecked Interrupted Kaiju Slumber then swing for OTK.
Truly wonderful.

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legendarylemur
04/30/23 2:39:25 AM
#127:


Poorly posted...
What's JP cards you want the most?
Ngl I have no idea. I just want pretty rarities. PUNK cards are high priority and are a bit too expensive for how mid they are in the current TCG/OCG meta

But I'm waiting for their reprint cuz they're within the set that the TCG is re-releasing for. So not sure if I'll quit collecting Eng cards yet

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Vortex_of_Hope
04/30/23 5:49:51 PM
#128:


Was doing my daily missions for fusion and spell activation so I was using branded despia. Went second against a tear player but I just need the missions not the win. Predictably I'm losing but then they time out. Are tear players getting hit with slow play penalties? No way it was a full timer anyway

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legendarylemur
04/30/23 6:30:44 PM
#129:


https://twitter.com/Acy85_SolaRe/status/1652677324129837056

What on earth... It's a jank loop caused by negating one of the Graydles. Hilariously it resolves mid way through the loop with a very confusing and rare ruling that the card is simply destroyed to prevent the loop. I believe it's because it's like trying to return to the owner but... simultaneously there's an effect trying to take control of it over and over. I'm not entirely sure cuz it only has partial replay.

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Tennousu
04/30/23 6:52:24 PM
#130:


Master Duel is a blessing when it comes to finding things like that.

Last day of the month. Get your gems!

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Poorly
04/30/23 9:33:08 PM
#131:


Anyone has deck recipe for commencement of dance deck. I had the urge to build a ritual deck right now.

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Calwings
04/30/23 10:43:11 PM
#132:


legendarylemur posted...
What on earth... It's a jank loop caused by negating one of the Graydles. Hilariously it resolves mid way through the loop with a very confusing and rare ruling that the card is simply destroyed to prevent the loop. I believe it's because it's like trying to return to the owner but... simultaneously there's an effect trying to take control of it over and over. I'm not entirely sure cuz it only has partial replay.

Graydle Alligator isn't being negated at all. Marincess Crystal Heart is using its effect to make Marincess Aqua Argonaut unaffected by all other card effects except its own, including Alligator. For some reason (maybe there's something else outside the replay that explains this) this leads to the Argonaut being stuck in a loop between "affected by Crystal Heart, therefore unaffected by Alligator and returned to its owner" and "no longer affected by Crystal Heart, therefore now being affected by Alligator again and taken by the opponent again" so it keeps flipping control.

I don't think the card being destroyed to end the loop is a ruling thing either. In the real life game, the turn player would simply not be allowed to make the attack declaration with Crystal Heart in this situation. Instead, it's a failsafe put into Master Duel itself to stop infinite loops like this that the players can't get out of. If a certain action is repeated too many times without input from the player, it'll automatically put a stop to it by destroying the card it deems responsible for the loop. In this case, I assume the offender was deemed to be the effect of Alligator, but then its "When this card leaves the field, destroy the equipped monster." last effect took Argonaut with it.

Either way, it's still a really wild thing to stumble on.

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legendarylemur
04/30/23 10:53:21 PM
#133:


Yeah I guess that makes sense.

"These types of infinite loops are illegal in gameplay, meaning that a player may not voluntarily activate any card if its activation would cause such a loop. If such a loop is caused by something involuntary, such as a player conducting their normal draw or a mandatory effect, then the card ruled to be the source of the infinite loop is automatically destroyed by game mechanics."

It is actually in the ruleset that if something causes an involuntary loop, it is destroyed. I thought that's what might be happening cuz it wasn't clear what actually stole Argonaut, if it were the thing that was Called By'd.

But yes, this is a voluntary loop. Unsure if the game actually is able to tell a voluntary non-game state progressing loop is taking place. In real life, they would not be allowed to make this move at all actually.

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Tennousu
05/01/23 1:32:45 AM
#134:


Made Abyss Dweller to prevent Block Dragon self revival.
Block Dragon still revived itself anyway.

...then I realized it's not activated effect.
...then I also realized that, even if it goes to the grave, it cannot activate its search effect, so it's all good.

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DocileOrangeCup
05/01/23 1:54:31 AM
#135:


ok i guess im gonna take a break from the game. i legitimately am having the least amount of fun ive ever had playing a video game since tearlaments came out. ill just wait a few months for them to semi limit one of their cards i guess.

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Tennousu
05/01/23 3:34:21 AM
#136:


I'm joining Tearlament brigade, except I'm still have some sense and not including the cancerous Ishuzu.

Though I'm not sure what I should put in the deck. The Tearls (and I'm using the supposedly bad card Grief at 3) don't even make 30 cards total.

Though I felt I need a 2nd Ruru.

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Seaman_Prime
05/01/23 11:14:14 AM
#137:


Man playing a bunch of master duel now has made me realized Id be completely fucked if I tried to play the game irl. Id be missing 90% of my cards activations lol
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Calwings
05/01/23 11:38:17 AM
#138:


DocileOrangeCup posted...
ok i guess im gonna take a break from the game. i legitimately am having the least amount of fun ive had playing yugioh since tearlaments came out. ill just wait a few months for them to semi limit one of their cards i guess.

I haven't started playing for the month yet (I always wait until the third day after the reset to accumulate all of the daily challenges) but I'm hoping that since I'm a stay-in-Gold player who will be starting the season back in Silver 5, I'll run into fewer Tear players in the lower ranks. And on my side account where I have Tears built, I won't be playing the deck myself unless I run into too many other people using them.

I feel sorry for the people up in Platinum though.

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Tennousu
05/01/23 12:03:32 PM
#139:


Calwings posted...
I feel sorry for the people up in Platinum though.

Hear, here. I will try to Plat 1 (or at least Plat 2) again.

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legendarylemur
05/01/23 1:56:42 PM
#140:


Everything just takes way longer. Generally though if you have patience, it's easier than you'd think. Playing MD also just kinda gets you aware, and it's actually harder to miss things

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Calwings
05/01/23 4:04:34 PM
#141:


Oh yeah, I forgot the new banlist came into effect. I'm torn on whether I want to craft a 3rd Kagari right now or keep running 2 of her for now and wait for if/when they add Kagari's alternate art into the game like they did for Eldlich and Unicorn. Shizuku and Engage also have alternate art in the OCG (Kagari's is also out in the TCG) so the best-case scenario would be that they add all 3 into the Sky Striker pack at once.

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Tennousu
05/01/23 11:45:07 PM
#142:


Wanted to try Tearl + Eldlich jank (lol 42 cards before adding anything else) but then I got Blackout'd IRL....

Guess it has to wait.

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Tennousu
05/02/23 4:18:20 AM
#143:


Tearl hate player (Necrovalley + Dimension Fissure + TCBOO + Dimension Barrier + others) ended up surrendering because they didn't expect a Tearl player (me) lasted 22 turns.

Maybe I should put backrow hate.

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Tennousu
05/02/23 9:30:59 AM
#144:


Triple post.

"Tearl deck with Shadoll/Mask Change etc is not optimal."

Yee but when it works it hurts.
One sided Macro hurts so much.

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Calwings
05/02/23 6:15:08 PM
#145:


I decided to go all-in on the "taking opponent's monsters" part of my Sky Striker deck with 2 Change Of Heart and 2 Triple Tactics Talent on top of the 3 Widow Anchor and 2 Shark Cannon that the deck already runs normally. I just won a duel by attacking with an Accesscode Talker built entirely out of stolen enemy monsters. And yes, if they ever put Change Of Heart to 3, I will craft a third one and run it.

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Poorly
05/02/23 6:21:27 PM
#146:


Calwings posted...
I decided to go all-in on the "taking opponent's monsters" part of my Sky Striker deck with 2 Change Of Heart and 2 Triple Tactics Talent on top of the 3 Widow Anchor and 2 Shark Cannon that the deck already runs normally. I just won a duel by attacking with an Accesscode Talker built entirely out of stolen enemy monsters. And yes, if they ever put Change Of Heart to 3, I will craft a third one and run it.
Brain control is good option too

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Calwings
05/02/23 8:09:29 PM
#147:


Poorly posted...
Brain control is good option too

Nope, it's terrible after the errata. It only works on monsters that can be normal summoned or set, while
the vast majority of good endboard monsters are out of the extra deck. Mind Control or Crackdown would be a better option

But aside from a third Change Of Heart if it comes off the list, I don't think I need any more anyways.

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Tennousu
05/02/23 8:55:05 PM
#148:


Milling better is a skill issue, I guess.

/sob

Blue-Eyes + Jet Dragon actually works okay-ish with Tearl, at least until either one gets shuffled back.

Although Blue-Eyes now is a mainstay of my starting hand, rip

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Calwings
05/03/23 3:58:43 PM
#149:


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DocileOrangeCup
05/03/23 5:29:20 PM
#150:


Calwings posted...
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Out of these, the only one that's really a problem for me is animorphia or whatever. Their full on monster negate guy is really annoying.

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