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LiquidOshawott
05/21/23 9:19:00 PM
#153:


well yeah, but given how much of a iron hold they have had thats pretty expected

heres one for Chikara

Chikara Pro Wrestling, known simply as Chikara, has featured numerous talented and influential wrestlers throughout its history. While it is subjective to determine the "best" wrestlers, here are some notable names who have made significant contributions to Chikara:
  1. Mike Quackenbush: The founder of Chikara, Mike Quackenbush, played a vital role in shaping the promotion. He is known for his technical wrestling skills, innovative maneuvers, and storytelling abilities. Quackenbush has had memorable matches and rivalries within Chikara.
  2. Claudio Castagnoli (Cesaro): Before gaining fame in WWE as Cesaro, Claudio Castagnoli spent a considerable portion of his career in Chikara. He showcased his incredible strength, technical prowess, and versatility in various Chikara events.
  3. Eddie Kingston: A respected figure in the wrestling community, Eddie Kingston had a long-standing relationship with Chikara. Known for his intense promos and hard-hitting style, Kingston became a fan favorite during his tenure in the promotion.
  4. Sara Del Rey: Sara Del Rey, now a highly regarded coach and producer, was a standout female wrestler in Chikara. She exhibited a blend of technical wrestling and hard-hitting strikes that made her a prominent force in the ring.
  5. Jigsaw: Jigsaw, also known as Ruben James, had an impressive run in Chikara. He showcased his athleticism, high-flying maneuvers, and innovative offense, becoming one of the promotion's most popular competitors.
  6. The Colony: The Colony, a trio of masked wrestlers consisting of Fire Ant, Soldier Ant, and Green Ant, had a significant impact on Chikara's tag team division. They displayed a blend of high-flying and innovative teamwork that made them standout performers.
  7. Hallowicked: Hallowicked, with his unique gothic persona and technical wrestling abilities, became one of Chikara's most recognizable stars. He had a long and successful career in the promotion, capturing various titles along the way.
  8. Ultramantis Black: Ultramantis Black was not only a talented wrestler but also played a significant role in Chikara's storytelling. His character work and promos added depth to the promotion's narrative and made him a memorable figure.
It's important to note that Chikara had a vast roster with many talented individuals, and this list only scratches the surface. Different fans may have different opinions on who the best wrestlers in Chikara's history are, but these performers left a lasting impact on the promotion.

and one for New Japan

New Japan Pro Wrestling (NJPW) has a rich history filled with legendary pro wrestlers. While it's challenging to definitively rank the top ten wrestlers in NJPW's history due to the subjectivity of opinions and the different eras, here are ten iconic wrestlers who have made a significant impact:
  1. Antonio Inoki: Founder of NJPW and one of the most influential figures in Japanese wrestling history.
  2. Hiroshi Tanahashi: Known as the "Ace" of NJPW, he has been a cornerstone of the promotion in recent years.
  3. Kazuchika Okada: A dominant figure in the modern era of NJPW, known for his incredible matches and long reigns as IWGP Heavyweight Champion.
  4. Keiji Mutoh (The Great Muta): A legendary wrestler known for his mystique and innovative wrestling style.
  5. Tatsumi Fujinami: A key figure in the early years of NJPW, he is a former IWGP Heavyweight Champion and a pioneer of the junior heavyweight division.
  6. Riki Choshu: A popular wrestler and influential figure who played a significant role in shaping NJPW's history.
  7. Jushin Thunder Liger: A true legend of the junior heavyweight division, Liger had an illustrious career spanning several decades.
  8. Shinya Hashimoto: Known for his hard-hitting style, Hashimoto was a dominant force and held the IWGP Heavyweight Championship multiple times.
  9. Genichiro Tenryu: Though not exclusively an NJPW wrestler, Tenryu had notable runs with the promotion and is considered one of Japan's all-time greats.
  10. Minoru Suzuki: A menacing and intense wrestler, Suzuki has left a lasting impact in NJPW and is revered for his brutal style.
This list is by no means exhaustive, and many other talented wrestlers have contributed to NJPW's history. Each fan might have their own preferences and favorites based on personal experiences and eras, so there's room for debate and discussion.

I would do AEW but it only goes up to September 2021 so its a little different

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ZeroSignal
05/21/23 11:39:21 PM
#154:


Men's WWE list is surprisingly good. Replace Rogers and Andre with Sammartino and Cena and you have a potential lock of a list

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Steiner
05/22/23 1:26:03 AM
#155:


No fujinami joke list

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paulg235
05/22/23 1:36:03 AM
#156:


Sucks for Mercedes (Sasha) that she got injured in the New Japan main event.

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Maniac64
05/22/23 8:35:51 AM
#157:


Jigsaw over Hallowicked annoys me more than any of the rest of these.

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LiquidOshawott
05/22/23 9:25:23 AM
#158:


I actually did AEW out of boredom

As of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, All Elite Wrestling (AEW) had been operating for a relatively short period of time, having been founded in January 2019. Therefore, it may be more appropriate to consider the top wrestlers in AEW up until that time. Keep in mind that this list is subjective and may vary depending on personal preferences. Here are ten notable AEW wrestlers up until September 2021:
  1. Chris Jericho: AEW's inaugural World Champion, a seasoned veteran with a legendary career.
  2. Jon Moxley: Former WWE star Dean Ambrose, known for his hardcore wrestling style.
  3. Kenny Omega: Highly regarded for his in-ring ability and work in New Japan Pro-Wrestling.
  4. Cody Rhodes: One of the founders of AEW, known for his charisma and storytelling.
  5. The Young Bucks (Matt Jackson and Nick Jackson): Highly talented tag team known for their high-flying and innovative moves.
  6. Hangman Adam Page: A fan-favorite, known for his excellent wrestling skills and captivating character.
  7. MJF (Maxwell Jacob Friedman): A young talent with exceptional mic skills and a knack for being an effective heel.
  8. Pac: A dynamic high-flyer with an impressive repertoire of moves.
  9. Darby Allin: Known for his unique style and willingness to put his body on the line.
  10. Hikaru Shida: A former AEW Women's World Champion, known for her athleticism and in-ring ability.
Please note that this list does not take into account any developments or achievements in AEW beyond September 2021. It's always worth checking for updated rankings and accomplishments as AEW continues to grow.

man I miss Pac

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Steiner
05/22/23 12:06:26 PM
#159:


i miss cody

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ZeroSignal
05/22/23 3:36:52 PM
#160:


A few milestone numbers for WWE belts...

Roman Reigns only needs 24 more days to pass CM Punk to have the longest WWE title reign since Hogan in the 80s and the 6th longest of all time.

Bianca Belair's current run as Raw Women's Champion is the longest for any Women's title since Trish Stratus in 2005-06. Trish's '05 run is second only to Rockin' Robin's 502 day reign in the 80s.

Austin Theory only needs 2.5 more weeks to have the longest US title run since Dean Ambrose in 2013

Gunther needs 39 days to pass Don Muraco for the 4th longest IC reign of all time. Gunther's run is already the longest IC reign since Honky Tonk Man's record-setting run in the 80s

Well aware that WWE has Moolah as Women's Champion for 30000+ days, but there's technicalities with those dates. Also, fuck Moolah.

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/22/23 3:40:13 PM
#161:


LiquidOshawott posted...
here you go I just did

The top ten men's wrestlers of all time is a subjective topic and can vary based on personal opinions and criteria. However, here is a list of ten legendary wrestlers who have made significant contributions to the world of professional wrestling:
1. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin: Known for his rebellious attitude, Austin became one of the biggest stars in the 1990s during the WWE's "Attitude Era."
2. Hulk Hogan: A pop culture icon, Hogan played a pivotal role in popularizing professional wrestling with his larger-than-life persona and charisma.
3. The Rock (Dwayne Johnson): After a successful wrestling career, The Rock transitioned to become one of the most recognizable actors in the world. His electrifying personality made him a fan favorite.
4. Ric Flair: A 16-time world champion, Flair is considered one of the greatest in-ring performers of all time and was known for his flamboyant style and incredible mic skills.
5. "Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers: Considered one of the pioneers of modern professional wrestling, Rogers was the inaugural WWWF World Heavyweight Champion.
6. "Macho Man" Randy Savage: Known for his colorful personality and memorable promos, Savage was an exceptional athlete and had many classic matches during his career.
7. Bret "The Hitman" Hart: Hart was known for his technical wrestling ability and storytelling in the ring. He held numerous championships and was a key figure in WWE's "New Generation Era."
8. Shawn Michaels: A highly skilled performer, Michaels was known for his athleticism and ability to tell a story in the ring. He had many classic matches throughout his career.
9. The Undertaker: With an iconic gimmick and a remarkable streak at WrestleMania, The Undertaker became one of the most respected and enduring characters in WWE history.
10. Andr the Giant: Known for his immense size and strength, Andr was a true attraction in the world of wrestling. He was involved in many memorable matches and moments.
This list represents just a fraction of the talented wrestlers who have contributed to the industry. Other notable mentions include Bruno Sammartino, Eddie Guerrero, John Cena, and many more, depending on personal preferences and wrestling eras

Great list id maybe move Andre Higher and move macho down. Maybe replace Buddy Rodgers with somone more modern maybe a Cena?

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TheRock1525
05/22/23 3:41:42 PM
#162:


Sounds like Liv Morgan got a shoulder injury and, while trying to protect her, Dakota Kai tore her ACL.

Just a cursed match all around.

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ivysnow
05/27/23 3:30:40 PM
#163:


<img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FswpKTsWAAIYm3b?format=jpg&name=4096x4096">
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ZeroSignal
05/27/23 4:21:07 PM
#164:


Solid ppv today.

Easily the best one from Saudi Arabia

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ivysnow
05/29/23 2:55:25 AM
#165:


double or nothing was good. a bit mid on the aew ppv scale but still a fun watch with a pair of great main events
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ZeroSignal
06/01/23 1:32:24 AM
#166:


Nakamura and Ricochet in the Men's MITB match

Also, Ronda Rousey only needs the NXT Women's title to achieve the grand slam!

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Hardcore_Adult
06/01/23 1:44:56 PM
#167:


So who do you reckon will end Roman's Reign?

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Maniac64
06/01/23 1:47:47 PM
#168:


Cody

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Hardcore_Adult
06/01/23 1:55:01 PM
#169:


^ Has a large muscular farmer in his way at the minute.

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Maniac64
06/01/23 5:27:34 PM
#170:


I don't expect it to be soon.

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AriaOfBolo
06/02/23 9:40:00 PM
#171:


who do y'all think is the greatest all-time indy wrestler? like, never worked a major fed in a meaningful capacity? I am looking for somebody for a project but also I thought it was an interesting question anyway >_>

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LiquidOshawott
06/02/23 9:42:47 PM
#172:


AriaOfBolo posted...
who do y'all think is the greatest all-time indy wrestler? like, never worked a major fed in a meaningful capacity? I am looking for somebody for a project but also I thought it was an interesting question anyway >_>
Does Jay Briscoe count?

I guess it depends on your definition of major fed because theres probably a Japanese or Mexican one that fits if a promotion from there is considered indy

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Maniac64
06/02/23 10:00:52 PM
#173:


Jay Beiscoe does seem like a good answer. I don't think RoH counts as a major company.

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_PandaMaster_
06/02/23 10:05:22 PM
#174:


Imagine wanting to end the greatest wrestling storyline going today, and the greatest WWE has put out in LITERAL decades. *shakes head*

Hardcore_Adult posted...
So who do you reckon will end Roman's Reign?

Since you asked though....
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/4/9/AAEqD0AAEgwd.jpg

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paulg235
06/02/23 10:12:44 PM
#175:


If New Japan counts as a major fed, Jay wrestled there in the mid 2010s.

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ZeroSignal
06/02/23 11:53:59 PM
#176:


Maniac64 posted...
I don't expect it to be soon.

This. There's rumors that he'll pass Hogan's initial reign before dropping the title

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ZeroSignal
06/02/23 11:58:06 PM
#177:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/7/8/AAAjMoAAEiLi.jpg

Also, they managed to make it worse. Then again, I haven't been a fan of any WWE Championship design since the Undisputed belt in 2002.

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Hardcore_Adult
06/03/23 9:39:13 AM
#178:


@_PandaMaster_ We live in an age where many fans are less patient and aren't willing to sit through Sammartino/Backlund/Hogan Reigns anymore.


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Steiner
06/04/23 6:39:32 AM
#179:


eddie kingston is in the g1 (along with kaito kiyomiya) and we have omega vs ospreay and danielson vs okada at forbidden door, wrestling is so fucking back

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Maniac64
06/04/23 11:15:53 AM
#180:


Yay! Congrats to Eddie, I'm sure that's a huge deal for him.

Glad he feels he can get healthy for it.

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LiquidOshawott
06/05/23 12:54:23 PM
#181:


Steiner posted...
eddie kingston is in the g1 (along with kaito kiyomiya) and we have omega vs ospreay and danielson vs okada at forbidden door, wrestling is so fucking back

honestly given they missed last year its very possible both Hiromu and Ishii get marquee singles matches this year (Ishii feels like a guy to throw into Owen singles matches to start off)

could be a all time great ppv


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FFDragon
06/05/23 1:46:45 PM
#182:


Considering Kenny said they purposefully held back last time and still put on a 6.25 star match, my body is ready.

And AmDrag/Okada is a EWR fever dream.

Let's fucking go

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ZeroSignal
06/07/23 10:10:10 AM
#183:


MITB so far...

Men's: Ricochet vs Nakamura vs LA Knight vs Escobar/Ali winner vs Corbin/Butch winner vs others TBA

Women's: Zelina vs Becky vs Zoey vs Bayley/Mia winner vs Shotzi/Sky winner vs one more TBA

Probably getting Rollins vs Balor and Cody vs Dom while prepping for the inevitable Brock/Cody 3 match

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FFDragon
06/07/23 11:36:54 AM
#184:


https://twitter.com/the_ironsheik/status/1666462933604265990?s=20

RIP to an actual legend

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paulg235
06/07/23 11:48:38 AM
#185:


Not even a month has passed since Billy Graham's death. RIP. One of the most iconic heels in wrestling history.

This leaves Bob Backlund as the only WWE champion pre-Hulkamania still alive.

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/07/23 1:18:07 PM
#186:


paulg235 posted...
Not even a month has passed since Billy Graham's death. RIP. One of the most iconic heels in wrestling history.

This leaves Bob Backlund as the only WWE champion pre-Hulkamania still alive.

Now that is a statistic

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ZeroSignal
06/09/23 11:53:46 PM
#187:


With Iron Sheik gone, the following earliest 5 WWE champions that are still alive are...

Bob Backlund
Hulk Hogan
Sgt Slaughter
Undertaker
Ric Flair

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Hardcore_Adult
06/10/23 6:52:46 AM
#188:


Mrs Flair's back then is, she? and predictably thrust into the title mix.

Also in regards to the Iron Sheik, with his death *everyone* in Piper's heel stable in Hulk Hogan's Rock 'n" Wrestling is now gone.

Big John Studd (1995)
Fabulous Moolah (2007)
Roddy Piper (2015)
Mr. Fuji (2016)
Nikolai Volkoff (2018)
Iron Sheik (2023)


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ZeroSignal
06/10/23 4:42:09 PM
#189:


Hardcore_Adult posted...
Mrs Flair's back then is, she? and predictably thrust into the title mix.

Just in time to compete for the exact same belt Roman has, only with a white strap. WWE's creative laziness is obvious today; I'm expecting Rhea to get a white strap version of the WHC on Monday.

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06/15/23 9:00:46 PM
#190:


ZeroSignal posted...
I'm expecting Rhea to get a white strap version of the WHC on Monday

CALLED IT.

I miss the days when WWE belts had some sense of individuality

Also with the SD Women's Championship changing design (and name, obviously), the currently oldest unchanged title design is the SD Tag Team Championship.

I don't know when they'll split the tag titles again, but I'm predicting a double-fall outcome in a triple-threat tag title match where Owens and Zayn get pinned by two different team reps, and said teams take their respective belts to Raw and SD

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ZeroSignal
06/17/23 7:19:34 PM
#191:


Bloodline breaks down more after yesterday, potentially setting up Roman vs Jey down the road at Summerslam or something.

Probably get Usos vs Roman and Solo at least once too.


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FFDragon
06/17/23 7:32:55 PM
#192:


ZeroSignal posted...
Bloodline breaks down more after yesterday, potentially setting up Roman vs Jey down the road at Summerslam or something.

Probably get Usos vs Roman and Solo at least once too.

I mean...

https://twitter.com/WrestlingNewsCo/status/1670114319558737921?s=20

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ZeroSignal
06/17/23 9:28:26 PM
#193:


Appreciate that update

"Championship" trackers

WWE's The Man: Roman Reigns (run consists of the first two lineages of The Man from 2008-2011 and 2011-2014; unified in 2020 by Drew McIntyre)

AEW's The Man: CM Punk (started in 2011 when Flair lost his final singles match with Sting in TNA before retiring for 12 years. Title brought to AEW by Kenny Omega in 2021)

Interim Man title: Adam Cole (lineage started with Seth Rollins in 2015. Eventually brought to AEW by Samoa Joe in 2022)

WWE's The Man, Women's Edition: Rhea Ripley (lineage started by Becky Lynch in 2018)

Roman currently has the longest Man title reign, dating back to Survivor Series 2020. With it, he also holds the custody rights to Dominik Mysterio.

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FFDragon
06/17/23 9:55:05 PM
#194:


If Dom Dom ever gets custody of himself, does that retire the championship?

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Maniac64
06/18/23 11:14:22 AM
#195:


It should

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ZeroSignal
06/21/23 11:05:40 PM
#196:


FFDragon posted...
If Dom Dom ever gets custody of himself, does that retire the championship?

Yes, that was discussed when Rollins had custody and wrestled Dom on a few occasions in 2020. Seth went over Dom every time before eventually losing to McIntyre (who then traded wins with Orton before losing to Reigns)

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ZeroSignal
06/25/23 6:55:58 PM
#197:


With Roman Reigns getting "double EXP" by holding two belts at once, he surpasses Dory Funk Jr and Dan Severn on my spreadsheet for most days as world champion across all major promotions combined, now in 12th place overall

Currently? 1659 days across 6 title runs
Next target: Harley Race at 1799 days; Roman can reach him in 70 days thanks to having two world titles at once.

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ScareChan
06/25/23 7:37:12 PM
#198:


The third belt doesn't give him triple EXP?

Someone is not acknowledging their tribal chief

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ZeroSignal
06/25/23 8:11:17 PM
#199:


Because it isn't a third belt.

Seth Rollins has the third belt, aka the consolation prize

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FFDragon
06/26/23 7:48:37 AM
#200:


I popped harder for Final Countdown than I have for anything in a long time

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06/26/23 4:20:37 PM
#201:


forbidden door kicked ass
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ZeroSignal
06/27/23 3:43:45 PM
#202:


Another title progress statistic...

Here's all the single title runs that are longer than Roman's across all major American promotions in history

Bruno Sammartino - 2803
Verne Gagne - 2625
Lou Thesz - 2300
Bob Backlund - 2135
Nick Bockwinkel - 1714
Dory Funk Jr - 1563
Dan Severn - 1479
Hulk Hogan - 1474
Bruno Sammartino - 1237
Gene Kiniski - 1131
Lou Thesz - 1079
Nick Aldis - 1043
Roman Reigns - 1031 days (as of 27 June)

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