Poll of the Day > Attention: Diabetics

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Am I diabetic?

I ate at around 9:30am, and then didnt eat anything for the rest of the day.

Why does it seem that I got stuck at 105 average for hours? Why isnt it going under 100? This normal? I dont know much about this stuff.

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How can you tell?

None of us are doctors AFAIK

Jen0125 posted...

None of us are doctors AFAIK

I've lost 8 digits to diabetes so far so I think I'm qualified to provide medical advice here.

I wouldn't even call this pre-diabetes. It looks fully normal. Not eating is actually detrimental to testing for diabetes, because your body will just consume your stored sugars.

The fact that it stayed fairly level is good and not indicative of anything wrong. That being said, no one here can help you. Seek a medical professional if you want to actually know if you are diabetic or are pre-diabetic.

Edit: There's also no reason to test so frequently like that. Your poor finger.

chelle posted...

I wouldn't even call this pre-diabetes. It looks fully normal. Not eating is actually detrimental to testing for diabetes, because your body will just consume your stored sugars.

The fact that it stayed fairly level is good and not indicative of anything wrong. That being said, no one here can help you. Seek a medical professional if you want to actually know if you are diabetic or are pre-diabetic.

Edit: There's also no reason to test so frequently like that. Your poor finger.

Why isnt eating detrimental?

HornedLion posted...

Why isnt eating detrimental?

Eating before blood testing can be detrimental if it's assumed you're in a fasted state. Fasted blood glucose is what's typically measured first. Blood glucose should be fairly stable and under 100 in the fasted state in healthy individuals, e.g. before breakfast in the morning, because the body should have had time to produce insulin and process the excess blood glucose, bringing the concentration down back to a normal baseline under 100. But the gold standard test is feeding someone glucose and measuring their response over time (in measuring blood glucose), known as the glucose tolerance test.

32 year diabetic. Those numbers are fine.

jsb0714 posted...

Those numbers are fine

And thats why I just ordered Daves Hot Chicken. I believe I heard someone on here proclaim its the best, and since Im currently visiting Dallas I thought itd be good.

those look like pretty normal numbers dood

HornedLion posted...

Why isnt eating detrimental?

Eating is detrimental only if you do it constantly. But done properly it's the better way to self-diagnose pre-diabetes. But rarely do people know how to do that right.

Not eating is detrimental because it causes your body to consume its stockpiled energy specifically because you aren't supplying it with fresh energy to take advantage of. Combine this with a sedentary lifestyle and you have the numbers you see above but through the entire day. If you worked out or did any physical exertion then the numbers would spike due to your body, you guessed it, using its stockpiles which would cause your BGL to spike initially, and then start to crash afterwards because it ramped up insulin production to break down the glucose. Now, however, you're back to being sedentary so your body stops working to make sugar, but you still have excess insulin in you which will cause your BG to read lower.

Usually that's not really a problem, our bodies are generally good at self-regulation. The exceptions are unhealthy people suddenly doing something strenuous, and medical reasons like the various types of diabetes.

TC numbers are actually prediabetic.

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you have scabies

So is there some way to tell if you have diabetes without actually getting a blood test? I've suspected I may have diabetes for many years now, but I've always been deathly afraid of needled so I've never actually been able to get a blood test done in my life.

All I know is that both my arms and legs have been in a constant, never-ending state of sharp tingling for years, with my feet being the worst case to the point it's painful. I've also lost a lot of muscle mass and my legs have gotten so weak it's sometimes difficult to walk or balance. Though that may be attributed to muscle atrophy due to not really exercising any more. I don't know.

I've gotten used to it by now (not that I enjoy it) but this obviously isn't something I should be getting used to.

BIgComputerGeek posted...

I've suspected I may have diabetes for many years now,

You don't unknowingly have diabetes for many years. You'd be dead from ketoacidosis.

jsb0714 posted...

You don't unknowingly have diabetes for many years. You'd be dead from ketoacidosis.

Then the problem is likely something else entirely. It doesn't feel right saying "that's a relief" in this case, but either way, I'm going to have to look up what "ketoacidosis" is. I've only suspected it was diabetes all this time since I have nearly every symptom related to it, and my parents said that's what it probably is.

jsb0714 posted...

You don't unknowingly have diabetes for many years. You'd be dead from ketoacidosis.

Don't scare the guy. You're only at risk of ketoacidosis if you have diabetes. Having diabetes, even unknowingly, doesn't guarantee you'll get ketoacidosis.

What in the Mary Poppins is Ketoacidosis?

jsb0714 posted...

You don't unknowingly have diabetes for many years. You'd be dead from ketoacidosis.

Depends on which type. Type 1? Possibly. 2? Nah.

HornedLion posted...

What in the Mary Poppins is Ketoacidosis?

When the body doesn't make enough insulin, it breaks down fat. Normally this is fine as it's how you lose weight, but diabetic ketoacidosis is a magnitude more worse. They won't have the ability to flush the amount of ketones being produced so they're likely to go into a diabetic coma, at which point their chances of dying unless treated immediately are very high.

You can purchase ketone strips at generally any pharmacy and test your urine for ketones.

chelle posted...

When the body doesn't make enough insulin, it breaks down fat. Normally this is fine as it's how you lose weight, but diabetic ketoacidosis is a magnitude more worse. They won't have the ability to flush the amount of ketones being produced so they're likely to go into a diabetic coma, at which point their chances of dying unless treated immediately are very high.

You can purchase ketone strips at generally any pharmacy and test your urine for ketones.

I know. I did the keto diet for 2yrs and I would test my ketones with them.

I also took a at home A1C test and came up 5.7. Ive been 5.7 for 10yrs now. Wtf!? It doesnt go up nor down. Thoughts?

BIgComputerGeek posted...

So is there some way to tell if you have diabetes without actually getting a blood test? I've suspected I may have diabetes for many years now, but I've always been deathly afraid of needled so I've never actually been able to get a blood test done in my life.

All I know is that both my arms and legs have been in a constant, never-ending state of sharp tingling for years, with my feet being the worst case to the point it's painful. I've also lost a lot of muscle mass and my legs have gotten so weak it's sometimes difficult to walk or balance. Though that may be attributed to muscle atrophy due to not really exercising any more. I don't know.

I've gotten used to it by now (not that I enjoy it) but this obviously isn't something I should be getting used to.

go. to the doctor

a needle won't kill you, but failing to get checked out can.

they deal with people who don't like needles all the time. set up your appointment and physically show up. being an adult means doing things you don't want to do. if your fear is so bad that you make your appointment and then fight the person doing the collection, then you need to start therapy. either way, set up an appointment, like now.

HornedLion posted...

I know. I did the keto diet for 2yrs and I would test my ketones with them.

I also took a at home A1C test and came up 5.7. Ive been 5.7 for 10yrs now. Wtf!? It doesnt go up nor down. Thoughts?

Then there's nothing wrong with you, is my thoughts, and it's silly to worry about something you show no symptoms for. If you want to know, go see a doctor. Otherwise, stop worrying about it. It likely would have been cheaper for you to just see a physician and get a blood test done than purchase a single home A1C test.

HornedLion posted...

I know. I did the keto diet for 2yrs and I would test my ketones with them.

I also took a at home A1C test and came up 5.7. Ive been 5.7 for 10yrs now. Wtf!? It doesnt go up nor down. Thoughts?

Why the fuck would you want it to?

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My doctor never offered me meds. Do they even put people with prediabetes on meds?

At this stage is it still reversible? (This question is pretty much the reason for the topic)

And if so, how?

HornedLion posted...

My doctor never offered me meds. Do they even put people with prediabetes on meds?

At this stage is it still reversible? (This question is pretty much the reason for the topic)

And if so, how?

No, because the cure for pre-diabetes is mainly diet and exercise.

If you have it, which you arguably do not. Again, only a medical professional can offer you any assistance.

chelle posted...

No, because the cure for pre-diabetes is mainly diet and exercise.

If you have it, which you arguably do not. Again, only a medical professional can offer you any assistance.

If his numbers are 100 to 125 then there's no argument, he has prediabetes.

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MagicalPrincess posted...

If his numbers are 100 to 125 then there's no argument, he has prediabetes.

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Technically the prediabetic numbers use to be 110-130. They keep bringing shit down. Hell, 120/80~130/85 is now prehypertension, too.

MagicalPrincess posted...

If his numbers are 100 to 125 then there's no argument, he has prediabetes.

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/preventing-type-2-diabetes/prediabetes

If youre worried about prediabetes you could call your GP surgery and ask for a blood test. The most common test will be checking your HbA1c levels which is your average blood glucose (sugar) levels for the last two to three months. If your HbA1c level is between 42mmol/mol (6%) 47mmol/mol (6.4%) this means it is higher than normal and you are at risk of developing type 2 diabetes.

42mmol = 128mg/dl

47mmol = 136mg/dl

No.

chelle posted...

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/preventing-type-2-diabetes/prediabetes

42mmol = 128mg/dl

47mmol = 136mg/dl

No.

Good info. Wow. Why is it so much different than in UK?

Because our healthcare isn't a joke designed to send people into debt.

Given the recent announcement of Lily lowering the cost of insulin in the US, and the others expected to follow suit, expect the CDC to change their terms of prediabetes to be in-line with every other nations terms again. It's no longer extremely lucrative to get people onto diabetes medications now in the US.

chelle posted...

Because our healthcare isn't a joke designed to send people into debt.

Given the recent announcement of Lily lowering the cost of insulin in the US, and the others expected to follow suit, expect the CDC to change their terms of prediabetes to be in-line with every other nations terms again. It's no longer extremely lucrative to get people onto diabetes medications now in the US.

Im about to begin eating 800 cal a day, as per New Castles study. Are you familiar with it? Apparently you guys are saving BILLIONS a year by having people who are diabetic go on it.

chelle posted...

Because our healthcare isn't a joke designed to send people into debt.

Given the recent announcement of Lily lowering the cost of insulin in the US, and the others expected to follow suit, expect the CDC to change their terms of prediabetes to be in-line with every other nations terms again. It's no longer extremely lucrative to get people onto diabetes medications now in the US.

how is it some big conspiracy when people in the prediabetes category should only need behavioral interventions related to diet and exercise

Clench281 posted...

how is it some big conspiracy when people in the prediabetes category should only need behavioral interventions related to diet and exercise

In a perfect world that's what would happen, but I would like to believe that you aren't quite that naive about a heavily for-profit system.