Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic 12: There are Four Lights!

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EDumey posted...

I know for certain I mentioned the weirdness of Crescent being a miller before. And I feel like other people have commented on it too. It just ended up never going anywhere because we don't know any other interaction that would make it make sense.

sorry my wording was a bit strong, I meant more to say it just never really got a full dissection/discussion beyond cursory mentions of this doesnt make sense, move on

Crescent would be able to scan herself if my bus drive hits her and her target, then she scans scum to herself, that's a bit funny.

Chaeix posted...

no?

because crescent can only get one scan off on scum before they realize its her, and with a 3 man team theres a 1/3 chance of hitting GF.

crescent was not a full cop in the sense that she couldnt take down the scumteam solo with her scans

That's a good point. I forgot about her major weakness there. Points to it being even less likely one of you or Ctes are scum imo

It would be a weird setup for sure though if the Indy third party is a stronger cop than the town and is meant to scan and kill the town cop..... I mean I guess that would be cool? But then that indy would have to win with Town anyway to be balanced right?

PunishedBen posted...

That's a good point. I forgot about her major weakness there. Points to it being even less likely one of you or Ctes are scum imo

It would be a weird setup for sure though if the Indy third party is a stronger cop than the town and is meant to scan and kill the town cop..... I mean I guess that would be cool? But then that indy would have to win with Town anyway to be balanced right?

given the lack of NKs it certainly wouldnt be an SK at least, so probably?

im actually curious about Hans thoughts on an Indy if only because he was very open about questioning a 4-man scumteam earlier in the game

or even just general thoughts from Han about a 3 vs 4 man team, regardless of Indy

ctesjbuvf posted...

Crescent would be able to scan herself if my bus drive hits her and her target, then she scans scum to herself, that's a bit funny.

Would she also get a separate notification that she had been scanned because of the other part of her role? :thinking:

PunishedBen posted...

then that indy would have to win with Town anyway to be balanced right?

maybe I'm dumb, but I don't understand this. Isn't an Indy that had to win with Town just Town?

I think Indy is very possible and 4 scum is right out

EDumey posted...

maybe I'm dumb, but I don't understand this. Isn't an Indy that had to win with Town just Town?

Not necessarily. They could have a subgoal that has to be met in addition to winning with town. Or sometimes they just have to win and survive till the end but it's implied their only choice is to win with Town given their abilities. Either way Its rare which is why I don't think this game has an indy that's supposed to interact with Crescent. I think it's just so that Crescsnt feels like she has to claim Miller first post and that's a torture some hosts just love

Or maybe I have sealed powers and become cop when a certain member of scum dies~

That's a joke if it wasn't clear

Lea if you're independent, I'll only count that as a half betrayal.

A single tear will fall from your cheek

Votals:
[0] EDumey: (Sultan)
[0] Ctes: (EDumey), (Han), (Han)
[0] Han - (Ben)
[0] Lea - (JC), (Han)

Day ends in roughly 5 hours.

This is host interference and I will not stand for it.

PunishedBen posted...

I mean, now that Han thinks Sultan and Ctes are town I would like his help figuring out an updated scum team. Even if i have to be on it.

I am waiting on an answer to this from Han. You can put Ctes on it too if you don't think last night exonerates him

Is it not an 8-way tie with no lynch as well

I do hope none of you take lea or Han seriously until they can come up with a scum team.
They simply cant. Not without sounding ridiculous. I only keep asking because I know they cant

Han's grand reason for saying i am scum is because I am going after him. Literally OMGUS.

That and I'm illiterate. He said I'm "being like Trump" and that this makes me scum.

I wont doubt I probably sound crazy in all of this. I am providing ammo to make him say this in the first place. But if you think at all that there is a semblance of logic in the things I'm saying then you already are reading me better than Han, and that's a problem if we are to assume Han is town.

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What is the scum team? I promise i wont call it ridiculous

I just won't stop other people from calling it ridiculous

And I'm even more interested in Han's since he said I'm trying to manipulate Sultan, implying that Sultan is town

I'm gonna need a third scum

And I suppose this means you read the me yelling at Sultan all last night to unvote as fake and planned drama?

I don't quite think Sultan and Ben, nor Sultan and BCT when he was here read like scum/scum. I'd be quite impresed.

PunishedBen posted...

I mean, now that Han thinks Sultan and Ctes are town I would like his help figuring out an updated scum team. Even if i have to be on it.

Again, you have changed the meaning of logic to fit a narrative you are pushing.

ctesjbuvf posted...

I don't quite think Sultan and Ben, nor Sultan and BCT when he was here read like scum/scum. I'd be quite impresed.

I agree. I'm not inclined to think Sultan is Scum.

Hey Lea, what about that thing Han did last night where he says he was looking at time stamps? Han said last game he thinks it should be banned because it's outside the game. You really think he was using them or was that just a cover?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Again, you have changed the meaning of logic to fit a narrative you are pushing.

Just give me a scum team man

PunishedBen posted...

Hey Lea, what about that thing Han did last night where he says he was looking at time stamps? Han said last game he thinks it should be banned because it's outside the game. You really think he was using them or was that just a cover?

Are you trying to use a fact that I willingly volunteered this game as some sort of "aha gotcha"?

Yes, if timestamps were banned, they should be.
Doesn't mean I won't use the tools available that aren't banned. Especially since I was bored af and wanted to figure something out.

PunishedBen posted...

Just give me a scum team man

Ben/Ctes
Ben/Ctes/Dumey
Ben/Ctes/Lea
Ben/Dumey
Ben/Lea

I suppose Ben/Ctes/JC is also on the table.

I don't believe JC can be Scum while Ctes is Town, so that's removed.

Anyway, 6 teams, you're welcome.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Are you trying to use a fact that I willingly volunteered this game as some sort of "aha gotcha"?

Yes, if timestamps were banned, they should be.
Doesn't mean I won't use the tools available that aren't banned. Especially since I was bored af and wanted to figure something out.

But you at least knew from second hand tips last game that they're unreliable?

I'm honestly feel pretty stuck. Maybe I haven't had the time or energy to give it 100% but I think whoever the scum team is has done a pretty good job. I feel like we have had so little to go by every day. I think scum must have played pretty well. And with no disrespect in the world intended this makes me want to look at some of the better players here.

Nothing has really changed for me since the previous day other than my extremely small fear that Ulti was having an A+ scum game died with him.

I don't think lynching the JC scan again is the right option.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Ben/Ctes
Ben/Ctes/Dumey
Ben/Ctes/Lea
Ben/Dumey
Ben/Lea

I suppose Ben/Ctes/JC is also on the table.

I don't believe JC can be Scum while Ctes is Town, so that's removed.

Anyway, 6 teams, you're welcome.

Thanks, that's all i need to see. I'll let the rest of town judge that

PunishedBen posted...

But you at least knew from second hand tips last game that they're unreliable?

This is literally something you're inventing to try to make me look bad.

How do both of you clear Sultan that hard again