Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic 12: There are Four Lights!

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Obellisk
03/18/23 12:45:48 AM
#1:


Living Long:
1- ctes
2- EDumey
3- Han
4- JC
5- Lea
6- PunishedBen (BCT)
7- Sultan

Prospering:
LD1 - SirChris - Harry Mudd, Scum Hammerer/Double Voter
KN1 - Death - Ensign Harry Kim, Town Vanilla
LD2 - Sheep - Kasidy Yates, Town Vanilla
KN2 - Crescent - Elim Garak, Town Miller Guilty Cop
LD3 - Isquen - Sylvia Tilly, Town Vanilla
LD4 - wallmasterz - Boothby, Town Vanilla
KN4 - UltimaterializerX - The Doctor, Town Doctor

With 7 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch

Day ends Saturday March 18th at 8pm, about 19 hours from now.

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:00:13 AM
#2:


Let's start the topic with a boom

##Vote: Lea

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:01:21 AM
#3:


PunishedBen posted...
ALSO, REFRESHING 5 DIFFERENT PLAYER PAGES TAKES MORE TIME THAN JUST REFRWSHING ONE PAGE. THIS IS CRAZY

And if this was actually your goal to unvote when someone came online then what in the world would that accomplish in the first place?!?!,???

These are lies

Timestamp would update before they prepare the post.


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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:04:09 AM
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PunishedBen posted...
Why would Han, Han of all people, pull a fucking LOPEN. Rely on such a risky strategy to win a game instead of using his best asset, his mind, TO FIGURE THE GAME OUT.

THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AS TOWN HAN AHHHH

You've spent the entire two days making stuff up.

You're literally just yelling "1+1=3"

You're the one pulling a Lopen... And an Ulti. All in one.

Which is funny because like, Ben is normally chill.

Oh well.

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:06:52 AM
#5:


Normally chill? What's normally? I'm not chill in MYLO when one of my town reads is voting for another town read

And Han's vote on Lea here means nothing but distraction until Dumey arrives. He's not comitting to that. I havent seen a single post from Han this game where he says what about Lea's play could make her scum

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:07:48 AM
#6:


Lynch her, Ben.

I don't care.

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Chaeix
03/18/23 1:08:04 AM
#7:


serious question

whats the difference between mylo and lylo

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:08:39 AM
#8:


Han is pulling the Lopen. Lopen had to win a game for town by abusing unvotes. Han is trying to pretend like he was RELYING ON TIMESTAMPS in a Mylo situation to not completely lose the game. Han does not use that strategy./ That should be considered way too risky for him. He knows timestamps on Gfaqs are unreliable in the first place

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:08:46 AM
#9:


Chaeix posted...
serious question

whats the difference between mylo and lylo

MYLO means you don't lose if you No Lynch.


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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:09:08 AM
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PunishedBen posted...
He knows timestamps on Gfaqs are unreliable in the first place

They are?

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:10:07 AM
#11:


I just say MYLO every time because I dont care myself but its functionally the same.

But I think its technically LYLO if scum needs an additionaly night kill to become majority with town

But if we kill Ctes we also eliminate any of town's chances to block the night kill. Worst person we could mislynch today

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:11:13 AM
#12:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
They are?
People certainly talk about them and say they are during and after games here yes

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:11:37 AM
#13:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Lynch her, Ben.

I don't care.
You should care more if you're town tbh

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:12:21 AM
#15:


PunishedBen posted...
People certainly talk about them and say they are during and after games here yes

Here's a question Ben, since you're trying to sell yourself as the expert on Town Han:

What is Han's opinion on timestamps?

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:13:37 AM
#16:


PunishedBen posted...
You should care more if you're town tbh

I guess you don't think she's Scum. Weird how you're giving mixed signals

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:15:16 AM
#17:


I'm no expert, nor will I know for sure because you'll tell me I'm wrong. Clearly I think your opinion on timestamps should be that they are not an effective game winning strategy when scum members could already have their votes banked

Sultan votes Ctes

Then two other scum members have a post made voting Ctes, and they wait for their scum mate to come online. You'd never see them coming

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:16:33 AM
#18:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
I guess you don't think she's Scum. Weird how you're giving mixed signals
????

If I had a magic lynch button I'd have used it on you a long time ago. Your vote on Lea does nothing for me. Its the Sultan vote for Ctes I am worried about

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:17:44 AM
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PunishedBen posted...
I'm no expert,

Pretend I also quoted the post where you said "TOWN HAN NEVER USES THE WORD THE"

The answer is I don't like them. I never use them.

Are they inaccurate? When do they update? How do they update?


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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:18:20 AM
#20:


PunishedBen posted...
????

If I had a magic lynch button I'd have used it on you a long time ago. Your vote on Lea does nothing for me. Its the Sultan vote for Ctes I am worried about

What if you had a magic lynch button that doesn't work on me? What then?

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:21:31 AM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
What if you had a magic lynch button that doesn't work on me? What then?

Of course I would use it on Lea, followed by Dumey. After lynching you of course.

In this situation where i am terrified what happens when Dumey comes online, I of course would join you on Lea right now if it meant we could actually lynch her before Dumey comes online. I'd use a magic button on Lea right now too!

But I need two other people who want to vote lea to do that. Of course I would do that right now.,


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Chaeix
03/18/23 1:21:54 AM
#22:


hey Lea why is Han on you

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:22:37 AM
#23:


And yet you're wasting your vote on me.

So clearly your actions don't back up your thoughts.

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:23:20 AM
#24:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Pretend I also quoted the post where you said "TOWN HAN NEVER USES THE WORD THE"

The answer is I don't like them. I never use them.

Are they inaccurate? When do they update? How do they update?
I have no idea the detailed answers of that question, which is why I dont rely on them to win games. :P And i dont think its realistically possible to bait a scum team and ninja them with the unvote. That is too dangerous of a strategy, otherwise it would be employed every game

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:24:11 AM
#25:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
And yet you're wasting your vote on me.

So clearly your actions don't back up your thoughts.
My vote right now is wasted no matter where it is. Because without Sultan I do not have enough votes to lynch you anyway. Sultan is the lynchpin to all of this

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:24:26 AM
#26:


PunishedBen posted...
I have no idea the detailed answers of that question, which is why I dont rely on them to win games. :P And i dont think its realistically possible to bait a scum team and ninja them with the unvote. That is too dangerous of a strategy, otherwise it would be employed every game

I don't know why you're even bringing it up, since that's not what the situation was

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:24:49 AM
#27:


Here you go Ben, I'll prove that Scum is not 3 of me, Sultan, JC, and Lea

##Unvote:
##Vote: Ctes

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:25:31 AM
#28:


Now Han just wants to paint me as looking bad because I wont vote Lea, when voting Lea does nothing?

If Ctes and JC are online and willing to join me right now I would vote Lea

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:26:23 AM
#29:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Here you go Ben, I'll prove that Scum is not 3 of me, Sultan, JC, and Lea

##Unvote:
##Vote: Ctes
I already know its not but thanks >_>

And whelp, now we cant lynch Lea at all there goes the vote

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:27:41 AM
#30:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
I don't know why you're even bringing it up, since that's not what the situation was
Then what were you hoping to accomplish by voting Ctes and later unvoting?

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:28:34 AM
#31:


Basically we're still just waiting to lose I feel until @TheSultanOfSlam unvotes.

This sucks

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:29:42 AM
#32:


And I'm not desperate to pull off some win here. If Sultan just unvotes I can comfortably going to sleep. We still have tomorrow to talk this through

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:31:43 AM
#33:


PunishedBen posted...
Then what were you hoping to accomplish by voting Ctes and later unvoting?

In truth? I don't have answers so I was utilizing whatever else it as my disposal.


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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:32:04 AM
#34:


Like, if Han is town at all shouldnt he agree with me on this that Sultan having his vote on Ctes is dangerous....?????? >_<

Instead Han encouraged Sultan's vote. Why does he have no fear if he supposedly is this lost on who scum team is?

HanOfTheNekos posted...
Hahaha I love you Sultan.


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Chaeix
03/18/23 1:32:35 AM
#35:


hey han

how does dumeys neighborizer claim fit into the scumteam meta if ctes is scum

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:34:53 AM
#36:


Chaeix posted...
hey han

how does dumeys neighborizer claim fit into the scumteam meta if ctes is scum

Man here I was about to head to bed.

Uhhhh let's see...

Ctes may or may not have an EK, probably has a bus driver there, and the RB may or may not be true but let's say it is. That gives Scum limited CC, and an EK, which balances out by making you have to not do CC do get EK off.

Additionally you need a role scanner and an unblockable kill.

So neighborizer would have to be a second Jack.

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:36:01 AM
#37:


Han can you at least head to bed without a vote on Ctes?

Please? I mean I know I;m talking to scum here. But really

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:36:53 AM
#38:


PunishedBen posted...
Why does he have no fear if he supposedly is this lost on who scum team is?

Because I'm tired, Ben. You've put me on my back foot and I've expended most of my energy remaining for this game in refuting your incorrect accusations.


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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:37:13 AM
#39:


PunishedBen posted...
Han can you at least head to bed without a vote on Ctes?

Please? I mean I know I;m talking to scum here. But really

Oh, I was planning on it.

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:38:01 AM
#40:


Unvote then, Han. That way we at least dont have to worry about a Dumey/Sultan/somebody else scum team winning overnight. Right?

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:38:17 AM
#41:


I could even be the third scum!

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:39:08 AM
#42:


Hmm let's make a deal Ben.

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:39:11 AM
#43:


I think town is fucked if Sultan doesnt come back

But If you guys are gonna win anyway I'm at least gonna make you lose sleep to do it!

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:39:52 AM
#44:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Hmm let's make a deal Ben.
I'm here

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:41:21 AM
#45:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Because I'm tired, Ben. You've put me on my back foot and I've expended most of my energy remaining for this game in refuting your incorrect accusations.
So you'd lose the game for town because scum Ben overpowered you with flailing?

I thought town Han wasnt bad at the game or whatever lol

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:41:54 AM
#46:


PunishedBen posted...
I'm here


A truce.

I'm not Scum. D1 is awash with evidence towards that. But even if I were, there would be at least one other.

Make them your target. Or if two more Scum left, make them your target.

And my vote... Disappears

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:42:54 AM
#47:


No, you can unvote without me doing that. Because you dont want the game to be lost while you're asleep, right?

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:43:20 AM
#48:


We can make deals like that tomorrow when everyone is awake

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HanOfTheNekos
03/18/23 1:44:08 AM
#49:


Deal is now, take it or leave it

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PunishedBen
03/18/23 1:45:09 AM
#50:


I'm sure the first step toward me making someone else my target is you unvoting here for what should be obvious reasons. Though if are scum like i think then I really still need Sultan to unvote.

But if I'm wrong and you are town then its actually you who I need to unvote or the game could be lost overnight.


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