Poll of the Day > I don't want to participate in capitalism anymore

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Jen0125
03/13/23 3:44:48 PM
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It's just not for me

Why did we invent this dumb shit
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DirtBasedSoap
03/13/23 3:49:35 PM
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humans are naturally greedy and dumb. i dont think any other economic system would be better.

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Zareth
03/13/23 3:52:16 PM
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Dad, I don't think I wanna do hamster style anymore.

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DirtBasedSoap
03/13/23 3:53:16 PM
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i dont want to work, i just want to put an egg in the air fryer at 500 for 6 hours and see what happens

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Jen0125
03/13/23 3:54:03 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
i dont want to work, i just want to put an egg in the air fryer at 500 for 6 hours and see what happens

Right??
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Zareth
03/13/23 3:54:24 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
i dont want to work, i just want to put an egg in the air fryer at 500 for 6 hours and see what happens
Trying to sing this to the tune of Bang on the Drum All Day but god damn is it hard

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Greenfox111
03/13/23 3:57:08 PM
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Quit your job

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Judgmenl
03/13/23 3:59:24 PM
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Too bad. You don't have a choice.

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adjl
03/13/23 4:07:10 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Why did we invent this dumb s***

Mostly because the fantasy of being able to become powerful through hard work instead of having to rely on birthright, good fortune, or other factors outside of one's own control was appealing enough to get people on board with it. Left out of that fantasy is the part where hard work alone never actually enables anyone to become powerful without adding in other factors outside of one's control, including birth, but it's still a marginal upgrade over "I'm the king and you never will be," so people cling to that vain hope that maybe they'll end up being one of the lucky ones.

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teddy241
03/13/23 4:19:24 PM
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https://youtube.com/shorts/HevdCqQfrH8?feature=share4
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josh
03/13/23 5:39:44 PM
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being in a capitalist economy with no capital isn't optimal

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SKARDAVNELNATE
03/13/23 6:52:57 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Why did we invent this dumb shit
Let's say someone has a cow to trade and they want some chickens. They would only be able to trade directly with someone who both has chickens and wants a cow more than they want to keep the chickens.

However, if there is something that can be used to represent the value of the cow then the cow can be traded to anyone in exchange for the represented value even if they don't have chickens. Further the represented value can be traded to anyone who is offering chickens but didn't want a cow. Thus opening a larger pool of people who can make an exchange.

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JazzMasterZero
03/13/23 7:07:14 PM
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Zareth posted...
Dad, I don't think I wanna do hamster style anymore.
Thats nice, son. I forgot the exact response in Orgazmo but great reference
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Jen0125
03/13/23 7:15:10 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Let's say someone has a cow to trade and they want some chickens. They would only be able to trade directly with someone who both has chickens and wants a cow more than they want to keep the chickens.

However, if there is something that can be used to represent the value of the cow then the cow can be traded to anyone in exchange for the represented value even if they don't have chickens. Further the represented value can be traded to anyone who is offering chickens but didn't want a cow. Thus opening a larger pool of people who can make an exchange.

No I don't give a fuck this is dumb as hell
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josh
03/13/23 7:24:42 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Let's say someone has a cow to trade and they want some chickens. They would only be able to trade directly with someone who both has chickens and wants a cow more than they want to keep the chickens.

However, if there is something that can be used to represent the value of the cow then the cow can be traded to anyone in exchange for the represented value even if they don't have chickens. Further the represented value can be traded to anyone who is offering chickens but didn't want a cow. Thus opening a larger pool of people who can make an exchange.

bruh that's not capitalism that's just cash which exists in many different types of economies

i think you mean that the cows and chickens are owned by private investors and can sell eggs and milk for profit to grow their enterprise while keeping the farm hand who has no capital down with low pay

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Blightzkrieg
03/13/23 7:33:11 PM
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There are two options
-participate in capitalism like famed celebrities George Clooney and Gandhi
-wipe your ass with leaves and eat bugs like a dog

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SKARDAVNELNATE
03/13/23 7:35:28 PM
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josh posted...
i think you mean that the cows and chickens are owned by private investors and can sell eggs and milk for profit to grow their enterprise while keeping the farm hand who has no capital down with low pay
No, that's not what I mean. Are you just describing corporations?

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Jen0125
03/13/23 7:35:31 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
-wipe your ass with leaves and eat bugs like a dog

I already do this and I still have to work a job

How many bugs do I have to eat to never work again because I honestly already eat a lot
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josh
03/13/23 7:40:32 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
No, that's not what I mean. Are you just describing corporations?

i'm describing a private investor who owns capital. doesn't necessarily have to be a corporation.

ok i misunderstood what you were saying then because it sounded like you were just describing currency

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ParanoidObsessive
03/13/23 7:50:23 PM
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To paraphrase Churchill, "Capitalism is the worst system we've ever invented, except for all the other ones we've tried."

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Zareth
03/13/23 7:51:01 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
There are two options
-participate in capitalism like famed celebrities George Clooney and Gandhi
-wipe your ass with leaves and eat bugs like a dog
-move out in the woods and eat corn out of a can

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SKARDAVNELNATE
03/13/23 8:02:51 PM
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josh posted...
ok i misunderstood what you were saying then because it sounded like you were just describing currency
I was making a distinction about what holds the capital. In the first example the capital is held in the things with value. What a cow is worth to one the person who wants to trade it is not what a cow is worth to someone who doesn't want a cow. In the second example capital is held in something that represents the value of all things that it can be traded for. This creates a consistent medium for trade. Capitalism was invented to solve problems like that.

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Blightzkrieg
03/13/23 8:11:14 PM
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Zareth posted...
-move out in the woods and eat corn out of a can
Deep south capitalism

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Yellow
03/13/23 8:23:12 PM
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You would still have to work in a Socialist one, but don't you find it kind of messed up that there are 60 year old baggers at grocery stores with horrible back problems because they aren't allowed to have chairs? They aren't allowed to have chairs at work because of a (disproven) study from the 90s that said workers were more efficient without chairs.

I mean this shit is pretty stupid, obviously it would be better if the workers voted on workplace policies.
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ReturnOfFa
03/13/23 8:49:26 PM
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I definitely wish I wasn't working for a top telecomm corp right now.

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joemodda
03/14/23 12:12:39 AM
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You could always form a new political party based on socialism. You might even base it off nationalist value to appeal to more radicals if you know what I mean.

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BeerOnTap
03/14/23 12:02:04 PM
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Yellow posted...
You would still have to work in a Socialist one, but don't you find it kind of messed up that there are 60 year old baggers at grocery stores with horrible back problems because they aren't allowed to have chairs? They aren't allowed to have chairs at work because of a (disproven) study from the 90s that said workers were more efficient without chairs.

I mean this shit is pretty stupid, obviously it would be better if the workers voted on workplace policies.

You can vote on any workplace policy at any time. By quitting.
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adjl
03/14/23 12:08:45 PM
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Yellow posted...
They aren't allowed to have chairs at work because of a (disproven) study from the 90s that said workers were more efficient without chairs.

There was an actual study? I always figured it was just the widespread attitude of "if you aren't standing, you aren't working" getting in the way of interpreting any empirical evidence to the contrary.

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Yellow
03/14/23 1:38:55 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
You can vote on any workplace policy at any time. By quitting.
Yeah, and then we can quit paying rent as well.

adjl posted...
There was an actual study? I always figured it was just the widespread attitude of "if you aren't standing, you aren't working" getting in the way of interpreting any empirical evidence to the contrary.
I have to dig it up. All I'm finding now are articles about giving desk job employees standing desks.

I heard it secondhand and I'm going to ask where he got it from, because I want to see it as well. This guy is usually pretty good with his sources so I'm sure he'll remember. If not I'll reply with that.

This is why I want to put together a website, to keep track of all these "political" sources.
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Jen0125
03/14/23 2:13:06 PM
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but for real how many bugs do i have to eat???
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Lokarin
03/14/23 2:27:53 PM
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dun eat boog, boog are fren uTu

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Muscles
03/14/23 2:28:34 PM
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Humans suck and don't know how to make a system that works for more than a moment in time before getting corrupted

Communism has the same problem, looks great on paper but is easily corruptible

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Lynyrd_Skynyrd
03/14/23 9:08:49 PM
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Zareth posted...
Trying to sing this to the tune of Bang on the Drum All Day but god damn is it hard
You and me both
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BUMPED2002
03/15/23 9:07:20 AM
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Capitalism itself isn't the problem. The problem is unchecked capitalism and the wealth and power that goes with that allows a handful of people to wield and exert control over governments, people, commodities, and resources of the natural world.

That's the issue with unchecked capitalism.

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adjl
03/15/23 9:20:25 AM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
Capitalism itself isn't the problem. The problem is unchecked capitalism and the wealth and power that goes with that allows a handful of people to wield and exert control over governments, people, commodities, and resources of the natural world.

That's the issue with unchecked capitalism.

Indeed. Unchecked, capitalism just ends up as a race to see who becomes the dictator, or at least who comprises the oligarchy. Wealth naturally concentrates, given the extent to which having money makes it easier to make more money. With appropriate regulations and social support programs in place to ensure that wealth doesn't concentrate too much, though, capitalism is generally a better option than anything else.

Mostly, start with UBI to ensure that everyone's comfortably fed, housed, and has any other basic needs met so capitalism can't hurt them, then let capitalism run its course.

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Lokarin
03/15/23 11:04:36 AM
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Fundamentally; capitalism just means that the 'means of production' is in control of 'shareholders', that is all.

All complaints thusfar are just problems with the greater umbrella of economics.

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Yellow
03/15/23 4:04:09 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Fundamentally; capitalism just means that the 'means of production' is in control of 'shareholders', that is all.

All complaints thusfar are just problems with the greater umbrella of economics.
Not mine. I want workers to be the only shareholders.

Then employees get to be the environment destroying bastards. It's all we've wanted all along.
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Blightzkrieg
03/15/23 6:08:18 PM
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Would you guys say as a rule, that socialists (or rather, anti capitalists) find the human anus to be attractive? I don't have the stats for Soviet Russia on hand.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
03/15/23 9:03:21 PM
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So, good news I guess. Apparently banks around the world are running out of money because they gave loans that were never paid back. Looks like a lot of people won't participate in capitalism soon.

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Lokarin
03/15/23 9:25:43 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
So, good news I guess. Apparently banks around the world are running out of money because they gave loans that were never paid back. Looks like a lot of people won't participate in capitalism soon.

I've been saying this for like 2 years... assuming it's because of mortgage advancing, otherwise NVM

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SKARDAVNELNATE
03/15/23 9:29:37 PM
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Lokarin posted...
I've been saying this for like 2 years... assuming it's because of mortgage advancing, otherwise NVM
Silicon Valley Bank, and now Credit Suisse. Apparently due to focus on EGS.

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Yellow
03/16/23 11:43:29 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Would you guys say as a rule, that socialists (or rather, anti capitalists) find the human anus to be attractive? I don't have the stats for Soviet Russia on hand.
I think boys who just hit puberty do because they haven't fully thought it through (that it's the wrong one). Or maybe I'm just projecting.
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ReturnOfFa
03/17/23 12:01:40 AM
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Yellow posted...
I think boys who just hit puberty do because they haven't fully thought it through (that it's the wrong one). Or maybe I'm just projecting.
some people just like butthole and know people with clean buttholes

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