Board 8 > Star Trek Mafia - Topic 8: Attention Boardaytan Workers!

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You still never seemed to weigh in that your case against me builds on the premise of purposely making a horrible scum n1 play AND me risking not getting counterclaimed by an actual vig.

Not really a horrible play if it 1) kills town, 2) falsely confirms scum as town. I am still on the fence about Dumey but he made the point of questioning you that he was one of deaths biggest critics and he thought Chris flipping scum made death look very Town. So its debatable if death even made as good a mislynch candidate anymore.

as for the counterclaim, yeah it is a ballsy move. Its your best defense, but it doesnt mean your town. Havent gotten that far looking back yet but I recall we spent a while pondering the question before you claimed, and the whole bus driver/redirect thing easily couldve been floated to fish for anyone hinting at town vig or even outright claiming it.

Small notes in. Day 1 ctes.

Makes his list for Chris on sheep claim reactions.

Attacks sheep
attacked me for not being able to read, (kinda towny points)

Becomes chris' buddy a bit and works with Chris majority if the day.

Ohhhhh. Okay welI I can still follow the logic in not shooting Ulti. That was night 2, when Ulti had just claimed BP doctor. As someone loosely following the game, I did not at first believe Ulti was bulletproof OR doctor, simply thought he was trying to draw a kill. I think its extremely unlikely scum shoots him night 2, when the possibility is very real there that UIlti just flips vanilla or worse. Especially when they have confirmed moving Crescent to klll.

It is only after the no kill last night and no other protection coming out that I have full confidence in at least believing part of Ulti's claim

ctesjbuvf posted...

I was too slow typing on my phone so it got into the other topic:

Thank you for giving your answer Sheep. I just wanted to have that as well before I said what I'm about to say.

I dug into it because I have plenty of reason to believe scum did not shoot Death. I vig shot Death. I already explained why I thought he was scum earlier. It probably also helped me take the risk that I didn't risk shooting town power, since I believe Death would have said that eventually given he was up for lynch right until the end. It obviously didn't pay off so yeah, I screwed up (sorry Death, if you're following). No need to go into that, hindsight is 20/20 and all that.

It was always my plan to claim my f*** up when I woke up and saw it. Any doctor out there have very good reason to believe they protected town and I hope they can use that without outing themselves. I just wanted to get thoughts out about first given that scum would know they didn't shot. Took way longer than anticipated but here we are. Hopefully with this information on the table we can get somewhere.

This seems like it was well played out. And pre planned with this I keep rereading it and it seems like it was his plan all along?

Also again i wonder why do all vigs insist on shooting night/day 1? It's very low success rate.

The question again goes back to would scum do this as their kill and let Ctes claim hey scum must have shot at Ulti or hey ulti must have saved the shot and I as town made this kill.

The more I think about the more I keep making these questions to myself

Han whenever you get a chance I'd like to know what your thoughts would have been on BCT going into today had i not replaced in.