Current Events > Well another Vtuber got bullied out of her company because of Hogwarts....

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CyricZ posted...

Then why are you here.

Just go away. Leave the topic. Put it on hide.

Because you're harassing people, and it's not cool. Bullies should be stood up to.

Derplander posted...

Because you're harassing people, and it's not cool. Bullies should be stood up to.

What's the specific harassment. Did I call them asshole? 40-year-old virgin?

Oh no those were words all used to describe me in the last hour. My mistake.

EDIT: Add "idiot" to that one, too.

CyricZ posted...

I've said it multiple times, but it's not just the game.

It's the defense force.

The only reason there's a defense force is because of idiots who keep saying that buying a game makes you not an ally. I'd be worried about people who don't get defensive by that. But please, continue trying your hardest to turn people away from the cause

CyricZ posted...

I'm not the one making topics defending it.

I'm not the one still in topics defending it long after trans people have abandoned this entire board.

That's not what happened at all. The one trans person who left left erroneously because they thought gunplagirl was banned for being trans.

CyricZ posted...

People literally perceive you, the definition of ally-ship, and you say "no it's only what I think of me".

Did you ask all trans people and allies? Or was there a vote at the last meeting that I missed and it was decided that "buying Hogwarts Legacy" disqualifies someone from being on the team? Go ahead and mention the bare minimum again as if this was the first opportunity for anyone to support LGBTQ people in the entire history of the world and I've already failed?

I know trans people, other LGBTQ people, and allies that aren't perceiving people as bad allies over this since they are literally buying the game themselves. Are they not part of the "trans people and allies" collective you are speaking on behalf of? Do "trans people" perceive you as the spokesperson of Trans People, Inc?

Stop defending bullying with "it's what some people think". Half the fucking world thinks LGBTQ people are the devil. I'm not selfish and delusional for telling those people "I don't give a shit what you think. You're wrong"

CyricZ posted...

Then why are you here.

Just go away. Leave the topic. Put it on hide.

Why are you here? You obviously hate the game and don't care about the people who buy it. Maybe take a few minutes and go outside. Get some fresh air and touch some grass

wokies being facistic again

this is clownworld

zombiexdeathx posted...

wokies being facistic again

this is clownworld

I'm disagreeing with him, but pretty sure CyricZ is not being a far-right nationalist in this topic.

hockeybub89 posted...

I know trans people, other LGBTQ people, and allies that aren't perceiving people as bad allies over this since they are literally buying the game themselves. Are they not part of the "trans people and allies" collective you are speaking on behalf of? Do "trans people" perceive you as the spokesperson of Trans People, Inc?

I guess this is the big question at this point: why is Cyric still here in the topic when trans people aren't anymore.

And I guess my answer to that is "Why do you think there aren't any trans people in these topics anymore?"

Do you think there was a big revelation and they all realized they were wrong?

Or maybe it was they just got fucking tired of it. Maybe they realized this community can't be counted on for even the slightest thing. And they've accepted it.

We'll never know, because they're not here.

gmanthebest posted...

Why are you here? You obviously hate the game and don't care about the people who buy it. Maybe take a few minutes and go outside. Get some fresh air and touch some grass

CyricZ posted...

I stop when people stop trying to take any event in the world that happens like a Vtubers retirement and attach it wholesale to "the trans harassment".

That's entirely the reason this topic was made and entirely the reason I'm here. You want to stand on firmer ground, get off this topic.

The one who dropped the news of the real reason behind Pikamee's retirement WAS ME. You all couldn't be fucking bothered.

CyricZ posted...

I guess this is the big question at this point: why is Cyric still here in the topic when trans people aren't anymore.

And I guess my answer to that is "Why do you think there aren't any trans people in these topics anymore?"

Do you think there was a big revelation and they all realized they were wrong?

Or maybe it was they just got fucking tired of it. Maybe they realized this community can't be counted on for even the slightest thing. And they've accepted it.

We'll never know, because they're not here.

I have done more than the slightest thing and awful people like gunpla had takes like "You literally cannot make up for buying a video game that a stupid bitch transphobe will make royalties off of"

hockeybub89 posted...

I have done more than the slightest thing and awful people like gunpla had takes like "You literally cannot make up for buying a video game that a stupid bitch transphobe will make royalties off of"

I said "the community" and you said "me".

Because it's all about you. And your obsession that everyone looks upon you favorably.

That time has passed.

CyricZ posted...

The one who dropped the news of the real reason behind Pikamee's retirement WAS ME. You all couldn't be fucking bothered.

It was your responsibility in the first place because of the burden of proof. You stated it as a "fact" in your original post but didn't even bother providing proof for it h til much later. Plus they video you uploaded was a new video anyway that was uploaded after your original post days later.

Is that right Rev? Let's look at that post:

CyricZ posted...

So I'm sure it's way too late to point out that in the Vtuber topic it's already been established that her departure from VOMS was almost certainly a planned thing for some time, well before she announced that stream.

No, harassment is not a good thing, but claiming that this was the unilateral reason for Pikamee's graduation is dishonest.

Looks like I never once claimed it as a fact. I said we were talking about it in the Vtuber topic, which was true, and at least in that topic multiple people were willing to at least cool their heads on it.

Revelation34 posted...

Plus they video you uploaded was a new video anyway that was uploaded after your original post days later.

Yes. I waited. I had the cooler head here.

"it's already been established"

Revelation34 posted...

"it's already been established"

The discussion was established. This is nitpicky shit and you should probably just accept you misinterpreted me.

For my part, I apologize for not being 100% clear for your benefit.

CyricZ posted...

I said "the community" and you said "me".

Because it's all about you. And your obsession that everyone looks upon you favorably.

That time has passed.

I just want to know what that means? Can anyone, not just me, be viewed as unable to do the slightest thing if they have already done and are doing more than the slightest thing?

What time has passed? And I'm sorry you find it wrong that people act "selfish" by being defensive when they are being bullied. That's just common sense where I come from and some personal experience I have with being a victim.

I guess it doesn't really matter. You have your finger on the pulse of what "trans people" think, so anyone who buys the game is an "Uncle Tom"

When we're all dead in a few years, at least you'll be able to stand solemnly amongst our corpses and regret that more trans people and purported allies couldn't boycott a video game.

hockeybub89 posted...

I just want to know what that means?

It means I was disappointed in you for your decision to get the game.

And I'm further disappointed in you for continuing to defend your decision to get the game.

That's it.

You're the one who has to decide how much that means to you.

CyricZ posted...

I said "the community" and you said "me".

Because it's all about you. And your obsession that everyone looks upon you favorably.

That time has passed.

The point is that it could be anyone on the board who puts the effort in and the reaction would be the exact same from people like gunpla. Hell, if everyone on this board were pro-trans and all bought the game, they'd be called non-allies no matter how much they helped the cause. We're just pointing out how much this behavior hurts the cause

CyricZ posted...

And I'm further disappointed in you for continuing to defend your decision to get the game.

Why are you disappointed in someone for a non issue? Do you realize how discriminatory you're being?

gmanthebest posted...

Hell, if everyone on this board were pro-trans and all bought the game, they'd be called non-allies no matter how much they helped the cause.

Yeah? And?

Is it that important to you that CE, or rather, me specifically, think of you as an ally?

Humanity was a mistake.

Derplander posted...

Why are you disappointed in someone for a non issue? Do you realize how discriminatory you're being?

Because it's all a self righteous pat on the back. They just want to feel better than they didn't do something (that they weren't going to do regardless), but other people did. Considering it's something as trival as a video game and not something more impactful, it was never about being a trans ally.

CyricZ posted...

Yeah? And?

Is it that important to you that CE, or rather, me specifically, think of you as an ally?

If you could read a bit more, I said it's that behavior that hurts the cause. When you're actively trying to hurt the cause, that makes you not an ally.

gmanthebest posted...

When you're actively trying to hurt the cause

What's "the cause"?

What am I doing to "hurt the cause"?

What is the result of me "hurting the cause" in this topic?

Because when I feel the answer to that last question is "I won't be for trans rights anymore" then I'm thinking if all it took was a silly video game for you to abandon that, then you were never for it.

Don't try to speak for "the cause" when you only mean yourself. It's dishonest.

CyricZ posted...

Don't try to speak for "the cause" when you only mean yourself. It's dishonest.

The irony

Tmaster148 posted...

The irony

No different than the rest of you who think you understand what helps or hurts the cause.

CyricZ posted...

It means I was disappointed in you for your decision to get the game.

And I'm further disappointed in you for continuing to defend your decision to get the game.

That's it.

You're the one who has to decide how much that means to you.

I shouldn't have to defend my decision to get a game, like ever. Do not imply that I launched my defense unprovoked. And I feel like that maybe at this point, we'd know I defend literally everything I think or do and maybe it doesn't indicate some secret shame or my true colors or whatever. We should know that I don't start things, but never let them go unaddressed. I have said that I have pretty much always been the victim in my life. You're disappointed in me behaving normally (my normal) because, this time, you're the one against me.

This is actually really interesting and there aren't much "what is an ally" conversations here.

Too bad it's not Christmas

For my part I have no clue. And I don't think anyone cares about my opinion!

CyricZ posted...

No different than the rest of you who think you understand what helps or hurts the cause.

Harassing people over a video game isn't going to help your cause. I've already been told by someone else on this board to kill myself over this video game so I can certainly say that you guys aren't doing yourself any favors.

Tmaster148 posted...

Harassing people over a video game isn't going to help your cause. I've already been told by someone else on this board to kill myself over this video game so I can certainly say that you guys aren't doing yourself any favors.

No you haven't.

SenlinRescinds posted...

No you haven't.

How tf would you know?

CyricZ posted...

What's "the cause"?

What am I doing to "hurt the cause"?

What is the result of me "hurting the cause" in this topic?

Because when I feel the answer to that last question is "I won't be for trans rights anymore" then I'm thinking if all it took was a silly video game for you to abandon that, then you were never for it.

Don't try to speak for "the cause" when you only mean yourself. It's dishonest.

The cause is fighting for trans rights. You calling me not an ally doesn't effect me supporting trans rights or not, but it could effect someone who's on the fence. You need to look at it from a perspective that isn't your own. Like, "Wow, look at that guy bullying others on the same side. Is he gonna do that to me too?" Now, that's an exaggerated example, but you get the point

Drrobotniks posted...

How tf would you know?

He very explicitly told me that when I die it will be a net positive and I should do everyone the favor.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/3/7/AAQF_uAAEPqh.png

Over a video game.

CyricZ posted...

No different than the rest of you who think you understand what helps or hurts the cause.

Wouldn't this mean no one should try to speak for "the cause"? Or does it depend on the feedback you see in your circles? Like how you think it's been established that buying HL means supporting transphobia, but buying games doesn't mean support of China or Saudi Arabia or anti-worker capitalists or sexual abusers because no one is really boycotting and shaming over those reasons?

And Cyric wonders why he wakes up depressed all the time.

Tmaster148 posted...

figured as much, but then again dude doesnt exactly have a grip on whats right

Sucks man, why are people like this? you shouldnt have been told hat

You all really should have stopped engaging with Cyric the precise nanosecond he called trans people who can separate art from the artist and play Hogwarts Uncle Toms, what an absolutely unhinged view.

Not engaging with Tmaster given the mods here, go ahead and block him. You won't miss much.

SenlinRescinds posted...

Not engaging with Tmaster given the mods here, go ahead and block him. You won't miss much.

I've told you several times. It's not the mods. It's you attacking others that is getting yourself modded.

Ah sweet silence

Not really sure why you're trying to high road after that "I will happily say it here" schtick.

SenlinRescinds posted...

Not engaging with Tmaster given the mods here, go ahead and block him. You won't miss much.

Or maybe you shouldn't tell someone their death will be a net gain for society, and most boards do indeed have a thing against that kind of harassment. Go to 4chan or Kiwifarms if you want to be like that so badly.

dancing_cactuar posted...

Or maybe you shouldn't tell someone their death will be a net gain for society, and most boards do indeed have a thing against that kind of harassment. Go to 4chan or Kiwifarms if you want to be like that so badly.

Never said that on these boards.

SenlinRescinds posted...

Not engaging with Tmaster given the mods here, go ahead and block him. You won't miss much.

Says the single digit karma account.

Derplander posted...

Says the single digit karma account.

Which is irrelevant.

Derplander posted...

Says the single digit karma account.

Since he decided he want to bring this back on discord again.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/4/2/AAQF_uAAEPqm.png

Is that octillery telling you that?

SenlinRescinds posted...

Never said that on these boards.

Who gives a shit where you said it? Only a true scumbag would encourage someone killing themselves

Drrobotniks posted...

Is that octillery telling you that?

Joyrock/Octillery is the same person.

SenlinRescinds is his alt which he made after his previous one got banned for attacking other people over Hogwarts Legacy. He really doesn't learn.