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SpiritSephiroth
03/01/23 7:01:26 PM
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https://twitter.com/VOMS_Project/status/1630917777111252995?s=20

When will this shit end >_>

Apparently some of her fans said she's a Japanese girl who became a Vtuber because she was being bullied in real life. Now she got bullied online because of even mentioning that she might play it.

Edit: She's been forced to graduate which means she'll be leaving her company and all of her shit is being closed down.

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Tappor
03/01/23 7:15:04 PM
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tag to see if the replies to this are anything like what's happening elsewhere

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harley2280
03/01/23 7:17:37 PM
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I don't understand. I thought vtubers were characters being played by a voice actor so the actor could keep their real identity a secret.


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dancing_cactuar
03/01/23 7:17:56 PM
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Inb4 someone comes in to claim that the harassment to Pikamee was a massive 4chan psyop like literally every single other harassment campaign regarding this game conveniently seems to be despite the copious amounts of evidence showing otherwise.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/01/23 7:18:15 PM
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harley2280 posted...
I don't understand. I thought vtubers were characters being played by a voice actor so the actor could keep their real identity a secret.

She was being doxxed apparently. This seeped into her real identity.

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harley2280
03/01/23 7:19:35 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
She was being doxxed apparently. This seeped into her real identity.
Well that fucking sucks.

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Turbam
03/01/23 7:20:08 PM
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That's terrible

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Savoots
03/01/23 7:20:37 PM
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Using bullying and harassment to fight bullying and harassment is about as effective as using racism to fight racism.

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Slayer_22
03/01/23 7:21:00 PM
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This is disgusting. What the fuck?

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mario2000
03/01/23 7:22:09 PM
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rabbid activists

Fuck them Rabbids, they ruined Rayman

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eggcorn
03/01/23 7:22:18 PM
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That's not cool at all.

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Tmaster148
03/01/23 7:22:28 PM
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It really is disgusting to see people use the trans movement as an excuse to bully other people.

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voldothegr8
03/01/23 7:25:17 PM
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Well, I hope she at least got to enjoy the game in private without being harassed by crazy people. Shame.

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Crimsoness
03/01/23 7:26:42 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk
I like their rules because they apparently can't even follow the first 2.

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refmon
03/01/23 7:27:50 PM
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but r/circlejerk said they were on the right side of history...

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Agonized_rufous
03/01/23 7:37:37 PM
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They're acting like a bunch of Republicans with this cancel stuff

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ChocoboMog123
03/01/23 7:41:21 PM
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Agonized_rufous posted...
They're acting like a bunch of Republicans with this cancel stuff
You got people brainwashed by Fox news and people riding social media for clout and parasocial connections. It's not inherently conservative or liberal.

Anyway, Pikamee is too good for this :(

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gildedwings
03/01/23 7:43:56 PM
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I'll never forgive them.

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BakonBitz
03/01/23 7:48:16 PM
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This bullying is doing the exact opposite that activists want. This is not the way to go at all.

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dancing_cactuar
03/01/23 7:53:08 PM
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ProfessorKukui posted...
I see IShallRunAmok shitposting there too, huh
Guess the garbage circlejerk subs are where he goes when he spends half of the year in purgatory, as if that guy could be even more of a fucking joke.

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blackrider76
03/01/23 7:58:07 PM
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Amok spent weeks acting like Vtubers like Silver were faking harassment, so more shitposting from him isnt a surprise.

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Toonstrack
03/01/23 8:01:25 PM
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I've avoided all discourse about this game for this reason. These "activists" are going to lose support like this.

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Corbenik
03/01/23 8:02:19 PM
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I 100%'d the game today.

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FunkyCat
03/01/23 8:02:49 PM
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Her graduation has been in the works for awhile it seems.

The Harassment will only have sped it up, if anything at all.

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Slayer_22
03/01/23 8:03:35 PM
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That gaming circle jerk subreddit is literally mocking this.

Why the fuck is this subreddIt allowed to exist, exactly?

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ellis123
03/01/23 8:05:42 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...
That gaming circle jerk subreddit is literally mocking this.

Why the fuck is this subreddIt allowed to exist, exactly?
There is literally a subreddit, now blocked behind a "members only" wall, about watching people get killed. There is a subreddit for literal terrorism.

Is a circlejerk really the point that it's too unbelievable?

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Slayer_22
03/01/23 8:07:54 PM
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ellis123 posted...
There is literally a subreddit, now blocked behind a "members only" wall, about watching people get killed. There is a subreddit for literal terrorism.

Is a circlejerk really the point that it's too unbelievable?
Well, I didn't know those existed to be fair.

It still shouldn't exist, or the moderators should screw their heads on straight and stop encouraging harassment.

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ellis123
03/01/23 8:12:05 PM
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Slayer_22 posted...
Well, I didn't know those existed to be fair.

It still shouldn't exist, or the moderators should screw their heads on straight and stop encouraging harassment.
A general rule of thumb is that Reddit allows for basically everything that 4Chan does but might remove something if it hits ad revenue. Even then it's a lazy system where they only do the bare minimum. A good example of this is when The_Donald got in hot water for setting up a terrorist attack so much that it got in the news, and when that got booted they just moved over to AskThe_Donald and continued as if nothing happened.

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BurmesePenguin
03/01/23 8:12:10 PM
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Where are you guys seeing Amok's posts on that sub?

I hate reddit.
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MarcyWarcy
03/01/23 8:12:17 PM
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I hope she feels better. Pikamee is nice and just plays fun stuff, she's the last person to deserve any of this braindead harassment shit
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Vyrulisse
03/01/23 8:14:14 PM
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GamingCircleJerk legit needs to be shut down but it won't be because if you're on their side of things you're allowed to freely harass and dox anyone seen as "the enemy". It's literally a hate sub and a hub for launching harassment and bullying campaigns now.

Also a little reminder, the moderator on that sub that started the whole ban on Hogwart's Legacy shit was exposed for supporting the World Cup in Qatar because they were a soccer fan while at the same time chastising people that buying the game would directly support Anti-Trans groups.

dancing_cactuar posted...
Inb4 someone comes in to claim that the harassment to Pikamee was a massive 4chan psyop like literally every single other harassment campaign regarding this game conveniently seems to be despite the copious amounts of evidence showing otherwise.

lmao is that a thing people on CE have tried to claim? I haven't seen it.

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sauceje
03/01/23 8:15:14 PM
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poor kettle.wav, she doesn't deserve this

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Questionmarktarius
03/01/23 8:15:31 PM
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Haachama don't give a fuck.
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BurmesePenguin
03/01/23 8:15:44 PM
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While browsing this topic in the bottom of the page there was a link to a "vtuber general" topic that I skimmed the last page of and there was a lot of mention of 4chan.
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dancing_cactuar
03/01/23 8:19:16 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Where are you guys seeing Amok's posts on that sub?
In the reddit thread posted in the OP.

ellis123 posted...
There is literally a subreddit, now blocked behind a "members only" wall, about watching people get killed. There is a subreddit for literal terrorism.

Is a circlejerk really the point that it's too unbelievable?
All three should be yeeted off the site immediately.

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blackrider76
03/01/23 8:23:08 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
lmao is that a thing people on CE have tried to claim? I haven't seen it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80283970/971889814

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Vyrulisse
03/01/23 8:25:05 PM
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blackrider76 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80283970/971889814
I don't doubt it but even if so that doesn't excuse all the actual "allies" and members of the LGBTQ+ community openly supporting, cheering and partaking in these harassment campaigns.

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Murphiroth
03/01/23 8:27:28 PM
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blackrider76 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80283970/971889814

Me: Some of the harassment is likely from 4chan, they like to do that kind of shit.

Several people inexplicably: let's act like he's saying it's all 4chan's fault and defend that hellhole!

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Murphiroth
03/01/23 8:28:06 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I doubt it but even if so that doesn't excuse all the actual "allies" and members of the LGBTQ+ community openly supporting, cheering and partaking in these harassment campaigns.

Please indicate to me where I excused that.
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Vyrulisse
03/01/23 8:28:45 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Me: Some of the harassment is likely from 4chan, they like to do that kind of shit.

Several people inexplicably: let's act like he's saying it's all 4chan's fault and defend that hellhole!

I mean I know you're the dude who harasses VAs on twitter but misrepresenting what i actually said is pretty lame.
Honestly I can see it happening. If you've ever visited their Vtuber general on /vg/ those fans are crazy and very protective of ones they like and really hate on ones they don't.

Murphiroth posted...
Please indicate to me where I excused that.

Didn't say you did, just making it clear that it doesn't make what others do alright and it's pretty clear where the majority of the harassment is coming from.

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MarcyWarcy
03/01/23 8:29:47 PM
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there are always people that refuse to believe that their side is doing anything wrong. remember gamergate where every time a journalist or dev posted the death threads they were getting people would wheel out pepe sylvia corkboards to try and prove that actually they were sending them to themselves?

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blackrider76
03/01/23 8:32:47 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Me: Some of the harassment is likely from 4chan, they like to do that kind of shit.

Several people inexplicably: let's act like he's saying it's all 4chan's fault and defend that hellhole!

I mean I know you're the dude who harasses VAs on twitter but misrepresenting what i actually said is pretty lame.

First off, it was localizers, not VAs.

Secondly, Cyric already walked back on his accusation of that and apologized. Why havent you?

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Akagami_Shanks
03/01/23 8:34:20 PM
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waiting for people here to be like "Oh boo hoo poor cis streamers gets bullied this is nothing compared to perceived harassment i have faced online"

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dancing_cactuar
03/01/23 8:34:23 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Me: Some of the harassment is likely from 4chan, they like to do that kind of shit.

Several people inexplicably: let's act like he's saying it's all 4chan's fault and defend that hellhole!

I mean I know you're the dude who harasses VAs on twitter but misrepresenting what i actually said is pretty lame.
Nah, you weren't the only guy to blame 4chin for the harassment, you were just the most recent one and worded it slightly different. And thanks to how threads on CE get deleted, I can't post proof of the other times people were blaming 4chan instead of members of the trans community going way too far. I vaguely remember our buddy Amok was blaming 4chan, whose janitors on /vt/ are currently on overdrive deleting posts and banning users.

Akagami_Shanks posted...
waiting for people here to be like "Oh boo hoo poor cis streamers gets bullied this is nothing compared to perceived harassment i have faced online"
Not here, but:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/3/AAZroiAAEO4J.jpg
Like I mentioned in another topic, interesting how these people have the cojones to go against women, but when it's a male streamer like Cr1tikal they chicken out.

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Murphiroth
03/01/23 8:36:57 PM
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blackrider76 posted...
First off, it was localizers, not VAs.

Secondly, Cyric already walked back on his accusation of that and apologized. Why havent you?

Oh yeah, my mistake. And I've seen absolutely no reason to apologize. Perhaps he did.
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blackrider76
03/01/23 8:37:56 PM
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Murphiroth posted...
Oh yeah, my mistake. And I've seen absolutely no reason to apologize. Perhaps he did.

So false accusations are fine for you, but not for me or anyone else.

Gotcha.

Once again, for the record, the only localizer who blocked me on Twitter was someone I never interacted with, because blockchains exist. The localizer I *did* interact with did not block me, despite having issues with my apparent criticism of how he handled the censorship of one release, so you cant even call that harassment.

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