Board 8 > With RE4Make on the horizon, let's have an All-Purpose Resident Evil Topic

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I'm actually going to say I'm pretty surprised by just how much was cut in the second half of this game. Entire bosses and set pieces gone without replacements. Hmmm....

I can almost guarantee that they've reworked Separate Ways to be more fluid and anything major cut (like U3, which was given a backstory in the files. I imagine this replaces the old Krauser fight that felt awkwardly placed. Also the second El Gigante fight is probably also moved there since there is a lower path and arena visible on the map as you go through the Bella sister path with Leon) will instead make its appearance there. I was hoping SW wouldn't get milked for DLC again, but alas, now we wait. Again. But also it's still going to be SW with this Ada so...

It continues.

https://twitter.com/AamonHawk/status/1641177628856971264?s=19

Made it to the island.

My sentiments so far remain unchanged, as I probably need to play the game a billion times over to get a definitive feel on how I feel about the changes made. I think its mostly hits as the things that have been moved around and re-worked flow better, and just, logistically make more sense. There are misses though

They completely neutered my boy Ramon, and it's missing a lot on the original cheese of the dialogue, you can tell they reigned in a lot, but then again the original is so great because it leans so much into. I am glad they are referencing certain lines with the in game challenges, ect.

Pat compared Ada's VA performance to Ronda Rousey in MKXI, and BOY that's on point.

One thing I've noticed is that the shotgun feels much weaker than in the original game. It's not knocking waves of enemies off their feet anymore, it's not blowing off heads in a single shot, it's just sort of staggering a single enemy for a brief moment, even if it's right next to you.

which one? i'm using riot gun which i'm pretty sure is the best for that (it has the least wide spread) and striker is apparently the worst for it.

Made sure to get the primal knife in my inventory and max it out before I started my 2nd playthrough so I can do the pistol/knife only and no talking to the merchant run at the same time

Dels posted...

which one? i'm using riot gun which i'm pretty sure is the best for that (it has the least wide spread) and striker is apparently the worst for it.

I meant the default one, I haven't gotten far enough to buy any new ones.

SHINE_GET_64 posted...

Made sure to get the primal knife in my inventory and max it out before I started my 2nd playthrough so I can do the pistol/knife only and no talking to the merchant run at the same time

SHINE my man this sounds awful

Why do you play games like this

Go back to my old REmake knife only/invisible enemies/under 2 hours run

That first Ada voice part was so awful. Why would they allow that to pass in a masterpiece like this.

i just looked up Adas actress out of curiousity and she was also Ada in the last live action RE movie??

was she better there or did someone see her do the same performance in that movie and say yes, more of this?

so werid

The one from the RE2 remake must've either been busy or had a falling out with the staff to not get recast. She was perfectly fine.

Yeah Adas voice here is very bad, its super flat. Pretty much the only obviously bad thing in the game that Ive seen so far

From what I've read they wanted an Asian actress to play Ada. And I guess they didn't look too far after Welcome to Raccoon City.

She was only in the after credits stinger for like 30 seconds, but she wasn't the best there either.

Finished the village. Overall it was better than the original but the last bit after the cabin was a bit weaker. Dunno why but it felt a bit rushed. Soon as you beat the sisters it was like ok straight into the Mendez fight and then straight into the castle. I don't mind the second Gigante fight being dropped, but i kinda miss the cable car bit and felt it could've been a nice gap between the final two fights mentioned above. That weird running section could've been moved to the end as well. Would've lined up with what Leon says about the factory being on fire attracting attention.

just finished

they gotta remake 5 next and then just do a new 6 that isnt the old 6 at all. Totally new branching timeline, lets go. Give me a totally new game with Leon that isnt garbage.

I feel like you have to remake CV first though.

But 5 being the best selling in the series might get the go ahead regardless

Couldn't care less about 5 tbh. If they do end up remaking it i'll be waiting for a sale. I hate how 'new' Chris seems to be the one thrown down our throat now. I loved CV but they'd just turn him into the boulder beefcake from the newer games if they remade it.

5 is more in need of a remake than 4 was. it's almost a shame that these remakes are so faithful, because I'd really like a 5 redone from the ground up with major story changes.

Well at least one remake was not very faithful.

My dumbass sold the DLC weapons not thinking about how they wouldn't be there for NG+, fuck.

The real question about RE5 is not whether theyll remake it, but whether theyll keep the co-op as an integral element. RE5 is the first game that doesnt even attempt to be scary, and with the more serious tone theyre going for, co-op is inherently less scary.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

My dumbass sold the DLC weapons not thinking about how they wouldn't be there for NG+, fuck.

Oh no

oh noooooo

UshiromiyaEva posted...

My dumbass sold the DLC weapons not thinking about how they wouldn't be there for NG+, fuck.

i literally just looked up if you can rebuy weapons because I wanted to get the base pistol back

And you can! Scroll over all the way to the rightmost category in the shop.

Yeah I got answered in the game board, also found out there's a merchant in NG+ immediately after you jump out the window, which you won't see if you don't turn around.

How do you get the exclusive upgrades? I've got all the upgrades for the blacktail but I don't see any extra options

Upgrades go up to level 5 later in the game.

Ah ty

Is it me or are the hitboxes on the shooting range for the third set of challenges kinda bullshit? I swear that multiple times I shot the dynamite and it would register as a regular hit.

Also at some point I shot four targets that were lined up (with the punisher), and it hit everything except the one in front. Which is the one I was explicitly aiming at.

Needless to say getting an S on those was kind of a pain, but I did finally get the Merchant Charm!

...after spending literally all of my money on upgrades and maxing the Red 9 (+exclusive) like 15 minutes prior

I'm nearing what is presumably the end of Chapter 10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm having a great time with the game, but despite its triumphs (especially after the middling RE3), this remake is falling short of the legendary og.

Leon's enhanced mobility, knife play, and stealth abilities are cool, but the enemies aren't as fun to fight, the music and sound don't have nearly the same oomf, and the game simply isn't as creepy. Enemies in the original had an "awkwardness" to them, and whether intentional or not, it contributed to a completely unique and discomforting experience. Examples include:

• The dead-eyed stares of the bald castle zealots as they slowly close in on Leon
• The maniacal laugh of those same zealots when Leon is running around for his life
• The janky movements of garridors, and them actually sheathing and unsheathing their claws like wolverine
• The mad scream of Dr. Salvador as he swings his chainsaw
• The wet-sounding footsteps of novistadors as they run around, often unseen
• The awesome transparent cloaking of novistadors (as opposed to the almost childish iguana-cloaking that I've so far seen in the remake)

I've read chunks of this topic and do agree with the common sentiment that most characters have lost some of their charm thanks to the modernizing of the script and line delivery (and Ada just sounds bad), but I expected that and can let it go. I'm having a tougher time accepting the dev team kinda neutering many of the enemies and making them less creepy/threatening.

Am I being crazy here, or did anyone else notice this?

Yes and no. Novistadors are definitely the biggest downgrade. I do think the new zealots are creepy in their own way though, since they actually feel more like crazy cultists here. And yet other enemies are EVEN creepier. I just got through Chapter 13 and the Regeneradors are even more terrifying here in my opinion, as well being more difficult to deal with which only adds to the horror.

The bald zealot reminds me of the female cenobite from Hellraiser.

https://twitter.com/TheLarxa/status/1641558812887859201?t=Ae-UXF4u-KhFnxv0CoG4jg&s=19

Hot strats

You can also shoot the church bell right at the beginning of the village to end it early

you can also throw grenades at the cracked crane wall apparently to speed it up.

SHINE_GET_64 posted...

You can also shoot the church bell right at the beginning of the village to end it early

shine not reading the rest of the topic smh

YoBlazer posted...

I've read chunks of this topic and do agree with the common sentiment that most characters have lost some of their charm thanks to the modernizing of the script and line delivery (and Ada just sounds bad), but I expected that and can let it go. I'm having a tougher time accepting the dev team kinda neutering many of the enemies and making them less creepy/threatening.

Am I being crazy here, or did anyone else notice this?

I'm actually of the opinion that nearly every named character has been made a tier or two better than they were in the original.

But as far as enemies go, I haven't noticed too much in the way of bad changes but some of the good changes are amazing. Like the red cloaked cultist with the lantern.

Without getting into my deep dive yet though, I'll say that if Separate Ways is more fluid and fills in what (little) was cut from the main game this could be an all-timer. As is I do find it better than the original and more in line with what I wanted from a game titled Resident Evil 4. Even if they were hamstrung by the original killing Umbrella off screen.

i'm not a fan of "cheesy" stuff really, i like my media to take itself pretty seriously usually - so i'm happy with the changes. ashley goes from a generic damsel-in-distress to a real character. luis is way improved and i actually care about his story in this game. ada... hard to say because of the voice acting, it leaves too much of a negative impression. even krauser is fleshed out.

i'm also someone who isn't a diehard fan of the original - i played it as a kid and then replayed a couple years ago when i got back into the series when REmake2 came out, i thought it was great, but i have no particular attachment to it in the sort of way a diehard fan loves every detail of it - so for me the new engine, new graphics, ability to aim with my mouse, it's all an improvement. though there are still rooms i miss.

Leon giving zero fucks around the big bads, but being cheese around Ashley and emo around Ada is a wave of emotion I'm down for. He actually feels like a full character instead of a cartoon.

oh and the fucking LIP QUIVER when finishing Krauser off

insane

YoBlazer posted...

Am I being crazy here, or did anyone else notice this?

Pretty much agree with all of this. R2make was able to maintain a lot of the original's feel/tension despite being a complete graphical/gameplay overhaul. This one feels a bit too safe. This is largely due to the og Gamecube version being just so ... weird. The atmosphere just isn't creepy.

It's not a huge deal - still a great game.

Personally this game feels more creepy to me, not less. The original game is great but it's basically a cartoon. Not creepy at all IMO.

FFDragon posted...

Like the red cloaked cultist with the lantern.

Very true, they're an amazing upgrade. So far, the red cloaks and the "broken neck" ganados from the village are my two favorite enemies.

Wait.

The expanded treasure map is different treasure than the ones you buy in game?

Are you telling me I missed basically all the normal treasure from the Castle onwards???

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Wait.

The expanded treasure map is different treasure than the ones you buy in game?

Are you telling me I missed basically all the normal treasure from the Castle onwards???

Yes? Why did you think it's the same map?

It's pretty explicitly extra treasures.

I think the original game married tone and script and art direction perfectly. I like what they attempted here but it's a bit half and half, sometimes the original lines sound less impactful because they're trying to be subtle. "Where's everybody going, bingo?" Doesn't really hit the same, feels a little forced here when they changed other dialogue to be less campy.

I think that's the point though. In the original, "bingo" was supposed to be quippy and sarcastic while the remake "bingo" was more frustrated exasperation.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Wait.

The expanded treasure map is different treasure than the ones you buy in game?

Are you telling me I missed basically all the normal treasure from the Castle onwards???

I'm confused now. What do you mean "expanded treasure map" vs "the ones you buy in game"? You buy the treasure map for each region and it shows you that region's treasures on the map. I didn't think of the treasure maps as "expanded" though, just as... treasure maps. Was there an un-expanded one?

Dels posted...

I'm confused now. What do you mean "expanded treasure map" vs "the ones you buy in game"? You buy the treasure map for each region and it shows you that region's treasures on the map. I didn't think of the treasure maps as "expanded" though, just as... treasure maps. Was there an un-expanded one?

Think he means the one you could buy for an additional $10 at release