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Blue_Thunder
02/08/23 3:46:06 PM
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Mark my words!

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Blue_Thunder
02/08/23 3:46:34 PM
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Blue_Thunder
02/08/23 3:47:16 PM
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V_exe1
02/08/23 3:50:53 PM
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Dehya will be good in 4.2

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Leanaunfurled
02/08/23 3:50:54 PM
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Best topic title. Thanks for @!

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teep_
02/08/23 4:06:05 PM
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Blue_Thunder posted...
Mark my words!
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meralonne
02/08/23 4:22:32 PM
#7:


I'm actually so amused by the Dehya doomposting that I'm strongly considering pulling her and beating floor 12 of the Abyss with her. And as most if not all of you are aware, I barely ever even touch Abyss.

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TwoDoorPC
02/08/23 4:39:01 PM
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if mika is on dehya's banner then i'm def pulling for both. if not, i might just hold onto my primos.

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IMNOTRAGED
02/08/23 4:43:50 PM
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Certainly a team with her in it can clear it. The issue is, what is she really doing that literally Xinyan can't?


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meralonne
02/08/23 4:51:01 PM
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No offense, but this is precisely the type of hyperbole I'm talking about being amusing. You're literally comparing a new five-star that Mihoyo wants to sell to what's arguably the shittiest four-star in the game. I hardly think Dehya is going to walk on water, but my experience with this game is that every five star is at least reasonably useful and info we get from beta testers is dubious at best.

Either way, I don't really care about how powerful she is. I just care if she's fun to play.

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Leanaunfurled
02/08/23 4:54:56 PM
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TwoDoorPC posted...
if mika is on dehya's banner then i'm def pulling for both. if not, i might just hold onto my primos.
So far it looks like he isn't, and it makes me really sad.

meralonne posted...
No offense, but this is precisely the type of hyperbole I'm talking about being amusing. You're literally comparing a new five-star that Mihoyo wants to sell to what's arguably the shittiest four-star in the game. I hardly think Dehya is going to walk on water, but my experience with this game is that every five star is at least reasonably useful and info we get from beta testers is dubious at best.

Either way, I don't really care about how powerful she is. I just care if she's fun to play.
I don't get it, either. It feels like all the doomposting about who's "good" or not, they define good as leet Abyss12 times and/or Youtube showcase videos where people can go 'holy crap!' over it. None of that is necessary imo and for general, normal playing...she'll be fine.

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TwoDoorPC
02/08/23 4:57:14 PM
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meralonne posted...
No offense, but this is precisely the type of hyperbole I'm talking about being amusing. You're literally comparing a new five-star that Mihoyo wants to sell to what's arguably the shittiest four-star in the game. I hardly think Dehya is going to walk on water, but my experience with this game is that every five star is at least reasonably useful and info we get from beta testers is dubious at best.

Either way, I don't really care about how powerful she is. I just care if she's fun to play.

yeah, the vast majority of the game is exploring the overworld, which is super easy anyway. whether she's "good" or not really only applies to abyss, and if you don't do that or already have good characters for it then it doesn't really matter.

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Boombam99
02/08/23 5:00:13 PM
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I remember when Nahida's kit got leaked everyone thought she sucked, and then she turned out to be one of the best, most broken characters in the game
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IMNOTRAGED
02/08/23 5:00:35 PM
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As of now that's what her numbers are

Hoyo doesn't tend to make large changes this late in the process which is why everyone's kinda freaking out. Kokomi and Zhongli are basically the only exceptions and they weren't gonna change Zhongli til people made real life threats.


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V_exe1
02/08/23 5:02:16 PM
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Boombam99 posted...
I remember when Nahida's kit got leaked everyone thought she sucked, and then she turned out to be one of the best, most broken characters in the game

Mihoyo pretty much fully redesigned her skill functionality. IIRC her burst multipliers were also a lot weaker.

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Mormaurd
02/08/23 5:38:37 PM
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Boombam99 posted...
I remember when Nahida's kit got leaked everyone thought she sucked, and then she turned out to be one of the best, most broken characters in the game
People also said this about Kazuha and Kokomi, and both of them are outstanding too.

Well see how well she does near the end of her banner once the community has its data and figures stuff out.

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meralonne
02/08/23 5:51:08 PM
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IMNOTRAGED posted...
Hoyo doesn't tend to make large changes this late in the process which is why everyone's kinda freaking out. Kokomi and Zhongli are basically the only exceptions and they weren't gonna change Zhongli til people made real life threats.
I distinctly recall people being down on Ganyu right before her release, and we all know how that turned out.

Mormaurd posted...
Well see how well she does near the end of her banner once the community has its data and figures stuff out.
This is what I think we should be doing now as well. But it seems that some people are much more interested in saying she sucks to rile other people up than anything else. lol

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V_exe1
02/08/23 5:53:16 PM
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Mormaurd posted...
People also said this about Kazuha and Kokomi, and both of them are outstanding too.

Let's just say I was always on Kokomi's side and always said it'd be too early to trash talk Kazuha's, Yae's or Raiden's abilities.

Now Dehya is a different story. Unlike the others, what makes her stand out? I can't see it. We don't have obligatory coop challenges. We don't have characters who benefit from taking severe damage.

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ChrisTaka
02/08/23 6:14:57 PM
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My main issue with Dehya is that why would I want a character that takes damage for the party when shielders exists.

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V_exe1
02/08/23 6:19:57 PM
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ChrisTaka posted...
My main issue with Dehya is that why would I want a character that takes damage for the party when shielders exists.

That and why is she pyro, when her abilities can only be useful in Nilou's team?

Maybe Mihoyo plans to fully focus on HP-scaling self-damaging characters similar to Nilou, who would synergize Dehya.

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action52
02/08/23 6:28:50 PM
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My guess is that Dehya will be mediocre in 3.5. Not good, especially for a banner 5 star, but not as bad as the doomposting is making her sound either.

In 4.0, on a hydro Traveler team with an artifact set designed for that, she will be good.

In 4.2, on a Focalor team, she will be great.

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meralonne
02/08/23 6:29:36 PM
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ChrisTaka posted...
My main issue with Dehya is that why would I want a character that takes damage for the party when shielders exists.
If you're jb, it's so that you don't have to use a shielder Zhongli. ;)

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IMNOTRAGED
02/08/23 7:50:50 PM
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We didn't have widespread video leaks for Ganyu, so there was little info on exactly how her burst works (this is where the cryo Amber stuff came in) or how long her charge shots take. ICDs weren't something that were as widely understood then either.

Kazuha was compared to c6 Sucrose, a very good character, all along. People just underestimated how much easier he'd be to use than Sucrose. Fundamentally, the complaints made about previous characters just aren't the same as this situation with Dehya

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meralonne
02/08/23 8:23:04 PM
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Okay

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Blue_Thunder
02/10/23 3:06:26 PM
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A physical dps character with kit built around parrying would be pretty cool.

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teep_
02/10/23 3:29:16 PM
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Two Xingqui cons in 2 single pulls o.0 if Yelan doesn't work out, guess I'm building him

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ChrisTaka
02/10/23 6:50:21 PM
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I've been putting all of my trash 5 star artifacts into the strongbox for like over a month and I haven't gotten a good EM Wanderer's Troupe Sands for Ganyu.

It's even more painful when you put in the max 39 and only get 1 Sands out of the 13.

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meralonne
02/10/23 7:54:17 PM
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Strongbox is a bigger trap than Weapon Banner.

Let me get this straight: I burn 40 resin on one boss that gives me one five-star artifact and 40 more resin in a domain that gives me two more. All three of these artifacts suck, so I put them in the strongbox and I get one five-star artifact. This artifact, based on my experience with the strongbox so far, most likely also sucks. I have now spent 80 resin for one piece of fodder on the snowball's-chance-in-hell likelihood that I will actually get an artifact that's worth a shit. At least I had three pieces of fodder to start with.

It's like making five-star characters, releasing them, realizing they need buffs and introducing an artifact set or a four-star tailor-made to cover their deficiencies. Except in this case, the compensating factor they're attempting to get us to buy into is just as shit as the system itself.

I mean, if I had a fraction of DarkRoast's luck with artifact rolls, I might give it a chance. But no mere mortal like me has a shot in hell of that.

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Leanaunfurled
02/10/23 8:36:45 PM
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The strongbox isn't meant to be something you spend resin for, though. You spend resin for normal artifact farming and the strongbox is there for getting rid of excess useless 5* artifacts with a chance of getting something useful in return.

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Blue_Thunder
02/10/23 8:47:21 PM
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meralonne posted...
Strongbox is a bigger trap than Weapon Banner.

Well first off, no rational being fights elite bosses for the artifacts lol

You get at least 1 artifact per 20 resin in domains (so 3 artifacts per 60 resin). In exchange for burning those 3, SBs give you a new artifact--ie, an extra chance to roll something good--while not requiring any resin (so it's like saving 20 resin). Sure the chance of something good is small, but you can't really do anything else useful with bad 5*s. You can use them as fodder, but then again, <5* artifacts can already be used the same way if you need fodder.

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TendoDRM
02/10/23 9:02:40 PM
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If you stop thinking of everything in terms of resin, your life will be happier.

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Blue_Thunder
02/10/23 9:10:34 PM
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TendoDRM posted...
If you stop thinking of everything in terms of resin, your life will be happier.

I haven't mentioned resin here at all since last year lol

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Jshipp24
02/10/23 9:15:36 PM
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Been awhile since I posted in the general, but I'm happy to say I finally got Layla who was the only character I was missing in the game off a random 10pull on Alhaithem banner, unfortunately I also got like C12 Diluc or something going for C1. But I just looked at Dehya's skills for the first time and she looks kinda weird. I haven't kept up with any community talk revolving her but first impressions kinda don't give me a good idea of what she's trying to do.

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BigG777
02/10/23 9:56:35 PM
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I do enjoy the parry play style that this event does. I hope they give it to hydro traveler (that is the next one in Fontaine right?)

I know we got Beidou but still it would be awesome on traveler.
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Leanaunfurled
02/10/23 10:16:46 PM
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BigG777 posted...
I do enjoy the parry play style that this event does. I hope they give it to hydro traveler (that is the next one in Fontaine right?)

I know we got Beidou but still it would be awesome on traveler.
It's fun! I didn't look at it initially and groaned over "another combat event." This one is unique though and I've enjoyed the gameplay. And yep, hydro is next.

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meralonne
02/10/23 11:59:56 PM
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Guys, all Im saying is that the Strongbox is a waste of time. The shitty artifacts you get from it just take away fodder you couldve used on the rare occasion that a domain or boss drops an actually decent one.

And of course no one fights bosses for the artifact drops lol. But theyre there anyway. I geared my Ganyu with those drops, after all.

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TwoDoorPC
02/11/23 8:50:30 AM
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got my windy emo boi a nice new circlet today

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now i just need an atk% sands with crit dmg.

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teep_
02/11/23 9:47:22 AM
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Naku weed farming ._.

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meralonne
02/11/23 10:21:30 AM
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teep_ posted...
Naku weed farming ._.
Yoimiya released at least one patch before Enkanomiya. Biggest pain in the ass Ive experienced in this game. That said, make sure to get the seed collector because you can plant them in your teapot.

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BigG777
02/11/23 10:25:49 AM
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teep_ posted...
Naku weed farming ._.

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Blue_Thunder
02/11/23 11:01:49 AM
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Jshipp24 posted...
Been awhile since I posted in the general, but I'm happy to say I finally got Layla who was the only character I was missing in the game off a random 10pull on Alhaithem banner, unfortunately I also got like C12 Diluc or something going for C1. But I just looked at Dehya's skills for the first time and she looks kinda weird. I haven't kept up with any community talk revolving her but first impressions kinda don't give me a good idea of what she's trying to do.

Many people are doomposting her right now but she will have her niche, either now or down the road.

There has yet to be a bad limited 5*.

meralonne posted...
Guys, all Im saying is that the Strongbox is a waste of time.

And all I'm saying is that it's not.

I haven't even mentioned that it's a better way of getting artifacts from domains where there's one desired set and another useless one, because roughly half your artifact run drops will be of the latter set. And if you need more Glad/WT it's better to SB them instead of fighting elites.

Unless you already have a bunch of good artifacts to level you won't miss the XP. There's plenty of <5* fodder (as well as artifact XP potions from the Teapot) to go around.

All that said, if you don't want to use them that's perfectly fine; no one's forcing you to. But they're definitely a QoL that was needed.

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meralonne
02/11/23 11:58:01 AM
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The QoL we actually need for artifacts will never happen. Were going to have to agree to disagree on this one because Ive already dumped a shitload of artifacts into the strongbox and have gotten fuck all to show for it.

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DeathVelvien
02/11/23 12:12:26 PM
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Somebody please explain the Tartaglia/Bennett/Xiangling/Sucrose rotation please, don't understand what I'm supposed to be doing with it.

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DeathVelvien
02/11/23 12:36:49 PM
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More importantly though, won the 50/50

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teep_
02/12/23 8:49:03 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/2/AAaQveAAELSw.jpg

I feel like my Adventurer Anna quest is glitched

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TwoDoorPC
02/12/23 8:57:59 AM
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decided to pull the trigger and get my yelan to c1

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teep_
02/12/23 9:40:20 AM
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The two geovishaps in that domain under the chasm are annoying. Tight spaces and AoE attacks

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Blue_Thunder
02/12/23 10:03:33 AM
#48:


DeathVelvien posted...
Somebody please explain the Tartaglia/Bennett/Xiangling/Sucrose rotation please, don't understand what I'm supposed to be doing with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlWBoS_R2VI

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Leanaunfurled
02/12/23 2:40:38 PM
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Animal abuse today ;_;

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DeathVelvien
02/12/23 2:43:52 PM
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Blue_Thunder posted...
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Thanks! ^^

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