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BeantownHero
01/27/23 4:14:30 PM
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Racism is a helluva drug

https://twitter.com/lorrainemking/status/1618853839142256642?t=7Tb4OsPRfkYzQU7T86RSyQ&s=19

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eggcorn
01/27/23 4:17:25 PM
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You are going to get shat upon for criticizing anything ukrainian.

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Ratchetrockon
01/27/23 4:18:23 PM
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Damn man

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gunplagirl
01/27/23 4:20:03 PM
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Fuck racists, I'm glad that she isn't hosting that racist family anymore.

eggcorn posted...
You are going to get shat upon for criticizing anything ukrainian.
This

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Flauros
01/27/23 4:20:41 PM
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Muslim isnt a race

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Solid_Sonic
01/27/23 4:22:00 PM
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Flauros posted...
Muslim isnt a race

Okay, do you have anything else to add?

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hockeybub89
01/27/23 4:23:03 PM
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Flauros posted...
Muslim isnt a race
Yeah tell that to racists of the last 20+ years

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Southernfatman
01/27/23 4:23:03 PM
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Ukrainians are like every other group of people. They have good folks and they have assholes. It's sad that certain people are going to take this as, or make this into, a statement on Ukraine as a whole.

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Solid_Sonic
01/27/23 4:23:17 PM
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eggcorn posted...
You are going to get shat upon for criticizing anything ukrainian.

Honestly I would invite someone to try because they're going to look stupid for falling on their sword for those guests.

EDIT: I don't know why I thought she was the one complaining, sorry.

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cjsdowg
01/27/23 4:23:40 PM
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And america is welcoming these people with open arms. The Dems are just giving republicans votes. And hurting their base

Edited to add ironic that the Republicans have been likening these people to Nazi and the dems were like naw.

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Choco
01/27/23 4:24:06 PM
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out of touch westerners when they find out ukrainians aren't ultra progressive:

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Lord_Shadow
01/27/23 4:24:20 PM
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Islam is a religion an ideology one that Oppresses women with ideas from medieval times


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Choco
01/27/23 4:25:13 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
And america is welcoming these people with open arms. The Dems are just giving republicans votes. And hurting their base
"we shouldn't help refugees from a wartorn country because it might help republicans"

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s0nicfan
01/27/23 4:25:54 PM
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They probably shouldn't be sending refugees to Birmingham anyway. It's already one of the most dangerous cities in the UK (by their own admission) and a place where half the city (and most women when polled) doesn't feel safe even going outside at night.

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cjsdowg
01/27/23 4:26:27 PM
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Choco posted...
"we shouldn't help refugees from a wartorn country because it might help republicans"

You forgot the part about hurting their base. We should treat them like we treat people from Haiti.

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Solid_Sonic
01/27/23 4:26:32 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
They probably shouldn't be sending refugees to Birmingham anyway. It's already one of the most dangerous cities in the UK (by their own admission) and a place where half the city (and most women when polled) doesn't feel safe even going outside at night.

You do what you can, it's not like these people chose to leave.

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s0nicfan
01/27/23 4:27:18 PM
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Solid_Sonic posted...
You do what you can, it's not like these people chose to leave.

I'm saying the UK government should be picking better spots. I'm not blaming the woman for being put where she was sent.

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Questionmarktarius
01/27/23 4:27:29 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80325159
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Lord_Shadow
01/27/23 4:27:55 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
They probably shouldn't be sending refugees to Birmingham anyway. It's already one of the most dangerous cities in the UK (by their own admission) and a place where half the city (and most women when polled) doesn't feel safe even going outside at night.
And why is that?

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Funkydog
01/27/23 4:27:59 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
They probably shouldn't be sending refugees to Birmingham anyway. It's already one of the most dangerous cities in the UK (by their own admission) and a place where half the city (and most women when polled) doesn't feel safe even going outside at night.
As a Brummie, I am constantly terrified to change rooms I'm in, it's got so bad.

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s0nicfan
01/27/23 4:30:37 PM
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Funkydog posted...
As a Brummie, I am constantly terrified to change rooms I'm in, it's got so bad.

Hey, I'm going off the polls from the people who live there like yourself:
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/eight-10-women-dont-feel-22044665
More generally, 87 per cent of women said they do or have felt unsafe.

It comes after a separate revealed eight in 10 women said they had experienced some form of sexual harassment. Just 7.5 per cent of those said they had reported what happened.

https://metro.co.uk/2018/08/31/uks-safest-and-most-dangerous-cities-are-revealed-7901267/
Birmingham has been voted the most unsafe city in the UK, with a shocking 42% of those living there feeling at risk even during a day.

The research also revealed that a third even worry when they are in their own home.

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Solid_Sonic
01/27/23 4:33:06 PM
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I think the worst part is you're guests in someone else's country then call that country out for not being how you perceived it.

It's as bad as Americans wondering why no one speaks "American" while touring Italy.

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A_Good_Boy
01/27/23 4:34:21 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
And america is welcoming these people with open arms. The Dems are just giving republicans votes. And hurting their base

Edited to add ironic that the Republicans have been likening these people to Nazi and the dems were like naw.
They could always send them to California. We've accepted Ukranian refugees in the past. The capitol even has a mural to commemorate all of the refugees we took in during the Holodomor.

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Funkydog
01/27/23 4:35:53 PM
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People feeling unsafe doesn't mean the place is actually unsafe.

Given how much our media is doing their best to ensure we are terrified of the Muslim/Asian/Black population, of the refugees or trying to paint every Muslim as the shitstains that were protesting outside a school teaching children that gay people exist.

This is also coupled with a nationwide problem of the police where we have now had several women raped and killed by serving police officers, so I don't really blame any women for feeling unsafe. Harassment is also an issue faced across the country and it is entirely shit. Been harassed myself far too many times, even in my nurses uniform (and not just antivax crap) but I've also suffered it, and have friends subjected to it, across the entire country.

I just don't think it's something unique to the Midlands, but a national problem.

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s0nicfan
01/27/23 4:37:13 PM
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Funkydog posted...
People feeling unsafe doesn't mean the place is actually unsafe.

Given how much our media is doing their best to ensure we are terrified of the Muslim/Asian/Black population, of the refugees or trying to paint every Muslim as the shitstains that were protesting outside a school teaching children that gay people exist.

This is also coupled with a nationwide problem of the police where we have now had several women raped and killed by serving police officers, so I don't really blame any women for feeling unsafe. Harassment is also an issue faced across the country and it is entirely shit. Been harassed myself far too many times, even in my nurses uniform (and not just antivax crap) but I've also suffered it, and have friends subjected to it, across the entire country.

I just don't think it's something unique to the Midlands, but a national problem.

I mean... you don't just have to go off of how people feel. You can also go off the actual numbers:
https://crimerate.co.uk/west-midlands/birmingham
Birmingham is the most dangerous major city in the West Midlands, and is among the top 10 most dangerous overall out of the West Midlands's 44 towns, villages, and cities. The overall crime rate in Birmingham in 2021 was 137 crimes per 1,000 people. This compares poorly to the West Midlands's overall crime rate, coming in 17% higher than the West Midlands rate of 118 per 1,000 residents. For England, Wales, and Northern Ireland as a whole, Birmingham is the second most dangerous major city, and the 238th most dangerous location out of all towns, cities, and villages.

In December 2021, Birmingham had the worst crime rate in the West Midlands for bicycle theft, with 52 crimes reported and a crime rate of 0.04 per 1,000 inhabitants. December 2021 was also a bad month for Birmingham residents, when it was the West Midlands's most dangerous area for burglary, recording 893 crimes at a rate of 0.77 per 1,000 residents. Birmingham recorded 1,093 reports of criminal damage and arson during December 2021, making its crime rate of 0.94 the worst for criminal damage and arson in the West Midlands that month.

The most common crimes in Birmingham are violence and sexual offences, with 78,062 offences during 2021, giving a crime rate of 67. This is 38% higher than 2020's figure of 56,402 offences and a difference of 18.67 from 2020's crime rate of 49. Birmingham's least common crime is bicycle theft, with 1,057 offences recorded in 2021, an increase of 0.96% from 2020's figure of 1047 crimes.


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SHRlKE
01/27/23 4:37:54 PM
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Cultural differences.
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BeantownHero
01/27/23 4:38:39 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Ukrainians are like every other group of people. They have good folks and they have assholes. It's sad that certain people are going to take this as, or make this into, a statement on Ukraine as a whole.

The general anti black/brown sentiment in Ukraine seems to be one of the lesser discussed aspects of this war


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Pipotchi
01/27/23 4:42:55 PM
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Choco posted...
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ROBANN_88
01/27/23 4:44:46 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
The general anti black/brown sentiment in Ukraine seems to be one of the lesser discussed aspects of this war

I recall atleast some of that being made up by the Russians

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Funkydog
01/27/23 4:44:54 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Birmingham is the most dangerous major city in the West Midlands, and is among the top 10 most dangerous overall out of the West Midlands's 44 towns, villages, and cities
I would be incredibly shocked if the second largest city in the country didn't top crimes rates for anywhere outside London.

"Out of all of the West Midlands's larger towns and cities, West Bromwich is the most dangerous. The next most dangerous is Walsall, and Birmingham comes in as third most dangerous."

From that site, so the actual city isn't even the most dangerous place here. Sure, things could definitely be better - but the reality is when you live in a major metropolitan area there will be crime sadly.

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Prestoff
01/27/23 4:46:31 PM
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It's just a bad situation all around and I hope her racism is mostly due to ignorance rather than actual malice. It's why I came to the conclusion that most people who are racist tend to be from those that either never been exposed to diverse ethnic communities/people and/or just used to living in a monoethnic communities.

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Sexypwnstar
01/27/23 4:49:15 PM
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You know why

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the_pika
01/27/23 4:51:34 PM
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Some of us called it. This would happen.

do you remember this video?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RKKYJGLI0fU

this is from before the war. Many Eastern European immigrants start acting racist towards locals of color (born and bred in the country where the former are immigrants) within months, and resort to go back to Africa/Asia/brown place within 5 years or less.
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MarcyWarcy
01/27/23 4:56:32 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
The general anti black/brown sentiment in Ukraine seems to be one of the lesser discussed aspects of this war

It wasn't like a year or two before the war. I was going through some 2020 forums stuff a few months back because I was looking for something, and kept running into people bringing up nazis in Azov and the general white nationalist problem Ukraine has.

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s0nicfan
01/27/23 4:59:49 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
It wasn't like a year or two before the war. I was going through some 2020 forums stuff a few months back because I was looking for something, and kept running into people bringing up nazis in Azov and the general white nationalist problem Ukraine has.

I get why people wouldn't readily be willing to criticize them as much as they were, but it's pretty absurd how tilted people get if you bring up stuff they were saying literally months prior and start calling you a secret KGB infiltrator

You realize Russia has been pumping out propaganda around Ukraine's "Nazi problem" since 2014 (at the latest), right? Like, their entire basis for claiming they have to denazify the country to protect ethnic Russians is part of a campaign they've spent a decade building towards.

So like, if your base is for comparison here is what people are saying on forums I wouldn't hold that in very high regard.

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cjsdowg
01/27/23 5:05:49 PM
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I do disagree with it. But since it is happening. Let's treated all refugees the same .

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Lost_All_Senses
01/27/23 5:06:59 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Ukrainians are like every other group of people. They have good folks and they have assholes. It's sad that certain people are going to take this as, or make this into, a statement on Ukraine as a whole.

Yeah. None of this stuff ever feels like a story to me. It feels like "Oop, they found the person to try to make an example out of or use to generalize everyone else they can associate". There's always gonna be that person there. It's about how we let that influence the rest of our thoughts.

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MarcyWarcy
01/27/23 5:08:15 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
You realize Russia has been pumping out propaganda around Ukraine's "Nazi problem" since 2014 (at the latest), right? Like, their entire basis for claiming they have to denazify the country to protect ethnic Russians is part of a campaign they've spent a decade building towards.

So like, if your base is for comparison here is what people are saying on forums I wouldn't hold that in very high regard.

It isn't particularly hard to find western news outlets talking about it either. Basically any mention of Azov or Ukrainian right wing movements in the media previous to 2022 is mostly about the rise of white nationalist movements in the country. I mentioned the forum posts because they were obviously just average liberal people repeating stuff they read in the news and would now likely happily call you a kremlin bot or whatever based on whatever they read in the news, which is pretty funny.
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thronedfire2
01/27/23 5:10:28 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
The general anti black/brown sentiment in Ukraine seems to be one of the lesser discussed aspects of this war

because Russians hate non-white people just as much so it cancels out

besides, any majority white country is going to have white supremacists

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JasonSehorn
01/27/23 5:13:24 PM
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send her ass to Russia she will love it there
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Solid_Sonic
01/27/23 5:45:05 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Yeah. None of this stuff ever feels like a story to me. It feels like "Oop, they found the person to try to make an example out of or use to generalize everyone else they can associate". There's always gonna be that person there. It's about how we let that influence the rest of our thoughts.

I think it's more down to the circumstances that put that family in a situation where they felt the need to be apprehensive about people of other backgrounds that's upsetting. It's not like they can go home yet they're going to be xenophobic of where they ended up?

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UnfairRepresent
01/27/23 5:51:19 PM
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https://youtu.be/13pgxOCHKh0

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Arcanine2009
01/27/23 5:58:37 PM
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Lord_Shadow posted...
Islam is a religion an ideology one that Oppresses women with ideas from medieval times
Whatever it is, that doesn't mean you should hate and discriminate Muslims. Let people practice their religion or lack of. As long as it isn't hurting others.

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agoat
01/27/23 5:59:37 PM
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It would be quite the system shock to go from Ukraine to a more diverse environment tbh

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